The simplest of questions: Who had better judgement?

[Syrinx]

Poll question: The simplest of questions: Who had better judgement?

Hillary Clinton said on October 10, 2002, as she voted to authorize the Iraq fiasco:

I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.

On October 2, 2002, Barack Obama said:

“I know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors. … I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that” “invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale” “without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than the best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.“

Which comment demonstrated better judgment for a potential president and commander-in-chief?

If you say Hillary Clinton showed better judgment, please tell me why.

[Syrinx]

1. person voting Clinton, please explain

[Warren DeMontague]

2. That's only because you're talking about meaningless issues, like Iraq.

Why can't you talk about issues that REALLY MATTER, like Obama's preacher and his turban and his flag pin and his middle name???? :shrug:

:sarcasm:

[Syrinx]

3. and that the fact he is...

A secret Muslim and a closet radical bomber, as well as a Republican appeaser. All at the same time. :D

[Warren DeMontague]

4. You know what really burns my dinner? The fact that Obama is too anti-choice AND too pro-choice.

AT THE SAME TIME!

[Bongo Prophet]

9. These extra things you list really shows he can multitask, and points to versatility, not judgment.

;)

He can also dance like a white guy, orate like MLK, Lincoln and Jefferson all in one speech, and probably cook an omelette without breaking eggs.
Awesome!

[SunsetDreams]

5. she took him at his word, didn't bother reading the NIE

Will she be a follower of other people? She got hoodwinked by Pres. Bush, and she is ready to lead? ummm no

[2rth2pwr]

6. Present.

[ima_sinnic]

7. looks like the "28%ers" are down to being the "9%ers"

9%ers don't have the command of the facts or the issues to explain their vote for HRC--Limpballs hasn't given them their talking points yet.

[Syrinx]

8. none of the Clinton voters are telling me why yet.

[Catchawave]

10. A speech at an anti-war rally does not test

"good judgment". Voting to fund the war does? Your comparison of the candidates is apples and oranges.

[DevonRex]

11. Hillary voted for the war AND for the funding. So in your OWN

test, Hillary fails.

[Catchawave]

12. Nope. Obama votes to fund the war too

He supports the war with his votes now. Giving an anti-war speech at an anti-war rally is not a test. It's a safe "risk". But his votes don't support that now.

[DevonRex]

17. And Hillary failed both tests. Not only that, but it's not the '70s

when Nixon was happy to have his hand forced so he could get out of Vietnam without being the one to actually cry uncle. This is George W. Bush we're talking about here. That man would happily let our troops stay over there while their equipment wore out and their ammo ran out, just so he could say the dems HATE our troops and force Congress (after many casualties, I might add) to cough up more funds anyway.

THINK for God's sake.

[CK dexter]

13. A vote to fund the war is not a vote for the war

It's a vote to minimize the harmful consequences of a mistake: to decrease the loss of lives of innocent Americans and Iraqis. Consequently, to vote against funding on an abstract "anti-war" principal would have been hypocritical--potentially sacrificing more innocent lives for the anti-war cause.

[CK dexter]

14. Her vote was either deeply cynical and immoral or deeply foolish and incompetent

If her vote was sincere, it meant she trusted the wisdom and good will of Georgie, which shows such extraordinarily bad judgment that this alone should disqualify her for office.

Otherwise, she took a safe vote to protect her political career at the cost of 4000 American lives and a horrifically high number of Iraqi civilians' lives. In which case her moral character is lower than many of the hawks, who at least (though delusional) believed they were doing the "right thing."

[rucky]

15. Wow, that's higher than Bush's approval rating. n/t

[City Lights]

16. Taking Bush at his word exhibits the poorest of judgment. nt