I am an Obama supporter and I AM bitter and angry!

[matcom]

and after 8 years of Bush YOU Hillary supporters should be TOO!

so, cut the Bitter crap. Damned RIGHT I am bitter and angry. Time for a change. A HUGE change in this country.

don't tell me Hillary supporters are happy and content with the way things are!

oh wait :think:

[KittyWampus]

1. Wow, what an original sentiment. Not one other DU'ers has posted something even remotely

similar.

I'm bitter because so many Obama supporters weren't smart enough to reduce the entire thing to two words "Wedge Issues" and stick to them.

[matcom]

2. its a shame Hillary supporters think the country is better now than 8 years ago

:eyes:

[havocmom]

5. They don't really believe that. They are bitter we do not see her as the antidote

Same backers, different puppet front is NOT the way to fix things and HRC is bitter that we are wise to that little fact of life ;)

[Voice for Peace]

30. It's hard when the opponents reduce it to wedgie issues.

[cboy4]

3. "YOU Hillary supporters..."

:eyes:

[havocmom]

6. And how else should OP address you? Is so addressing her supporters derogatory?

:shrug:

Some Hillary supporters are looking for insults where there are none.

[cboy4]

11. Don't play dumb havocmom....Of course the way in which

he's referring to Hillary Clinton supporters is completely derogatory.

Then again, your dangerous blind allegiance to your candidate may be clouding your judgment.

So I understand your personal predicament.

[havocmom]

15. Not playing dumb. Asked a serious question

which you responded to with insults instead of an answer.

WHAT do Hillary supporters prefer to be called if not 'Hillary supporters'? If that term gives you offense, what term would not?

I do not think you do understand my personal predicament, or you would not continue to answers honest questions with personal attacks. Such behavior does tend to give insight into your personal predicament, though.

[cboy4]

17. Yea, you are playing dumb. Because you know full well

the OP was designed to belittle Hillary Clinton supporters.

As for how Hillary Clinton supporters prefer to be addressed, I suggest you ask a Hillary Clinton supporter.

Or better yet, use your head.

[havocmom]

20. OP asked a pertinent question. I am not playing dumb. I asked a question also

Over the months, when I have asked questions or made pertinent criticism of Clinton, I have been called:

sexist
misogynist
cult member
idiot
blind
Obananation
kool aid drinker
and worse...

A couple of times, when making statements of fact regarding other candidates, I have been called a 'Hill shill' and 'Clintonista'.

I know those are offensive and inaccurate terms, used in lieu of legitimate and constructive discourse, to avoid such discourse, or in some cases, bully people into not engaging in voicing legitimate concerns, questions, statement of facts some supporters of Hillary do not want mentioned.

There are many supporters of Hillary here that I admire and have affection for. To date, I have not noticed one such person EVER object to being referred to as a supporter of Clinton or Hillary supporter. If you know otherwise, please, enlighten us. We are all progressives and liberals here. We are open to being made more aware.

Since you posted that I should inquire of a supporter of Hillary Clinton what it is they wish to be called, I infer that you do not support Senator Clinton. So what is your special knowledge that the term the OP uses is offensive to such supporters? How is the term inaccurate?

Or is it just the fact that the OP posted something you didn't want to read that makes you scramble to reach so far to make some objection? If you object to the OP, be honest enough to state those objections.

I have seen an awful lot of threads with the terms 'Hillary Supporters ONLY' or 'Clinton Supporters only' in the OP header. Seems an a lot of PEOPLE ON DU WHO SUPPORT CLINTON do not object to those terms, so how are the OP's words derogatory?

[cboy4]

22. Wow, you've been called all of that in six months?

I've been here since 2002, and I've been called one of those names at the most.

It sounds like you might have a behavior problem to be the target of so much abuse.

At any rate, naturally I don't have a problem with Hillary Clinton supporters being called a "Hillary" or a "Clinton" supporter.

It's the context havocmom. One doesn't have to be a Hillary voter to recognize that.

This OP in question was designed to be provocative.

I respond to the provocation, which is what the OP was looking for .. and now you question why I did?

I have a difficult time believing you're not puting me on.

[havocmom]

27. Judge, jury, you gonna execute too?

No, my behavior is just fine per DU rules and mods. Lots of passionate people don't like that I speak plainly and sometimes do not agree with them; lots of bullies have tried to intimidate me an others for exercising free speech that falls within DU rules. None of the mods have found reason to be critical of my behavior during this very ugly primary season. Why do you think your opinion of my failure to agree with you matters to me?

:rofl


The question in the OP was somewhat provocative. It was to provoke some honest self appraisal. 'If you aren't bitter about what has gone down, is it because you are ok with what has gone down?' is a perfectly legitimate question for those who are playing the 'bitter card' as a very foolish tactic.

If PROVOCATIVE is off the table, we should all just STFU and drink the kool aid cheney wants us to drink. Is that an option? Didn't think so.

[merh]

25. Oh please, stop with all the victim shit

The passive/aggressive behavior of clinton supporters is really pathetic.

How many clinton supporters use the sheep snark on a constant basis?

How about all those cutiest, yet degrading names they give to someone that challenges a clinton supporter or that posts favorable for Obama.

It is tiresome, it is childish and your response to OP is just a continuation of a bad habit adopted by clinton supporters - hypocrisy with a whine.

Then again, your dangerous blind allegiance to your candidate may be clouding your judgment.

[havocmom]

28. Thanks merh. Poster taking issue with me is oblivious to fact that MY candidate

has been outta the race, but DID get the best response on Colbert the other evening.

:hug:

[merh]

29. If I could keep that sweet smile on Edward's face all the time

I'd buy him those jet skis.

He was my candidate too. *sigh*

[cboy4]

31. You might be right.....how else could I be able to explain

voting for John Edwards in the California Primary, even after he'd dropped out?

[bridgit]

10. shake if off, matcom is a cliquey elitist, of that there can be no doubt

[marylanddem]

4. Me too.

Anger is a psychologically healthy response to bullshit.

[havocmom]

21. I'm in

Anyone who is not angry and bitter at how a great political system of governance has been profaned is just not paying attention.

[Maine-ah]

7. 8 years of Bush

and over 20 of the same 2 families running this country. I'm 34 years old. Almost my whole life it's been the same 2 families. I personally have had enough. Time for change!

GOBAMA!

[rug]

8. Bullshit. You're just bitter because your hot neighbor moved.

[tokenlib]

9. There are a lot of bitter and angry people--why can't they accept it???

Why do I get the impression that a lot of these Clinton supporters pissing all over the "bitter" comments have good jobs, have stable lives, and don't live paycheck to paycheck?

It is logical that unemployed, displaced, underemployed, workers might be royally pissed off and bitter. All these comments like "I don't see any bitter people!" make me want to slap the crap out of the one who utters such crap.

Respect the feelings of those of us mired in pessimism and bitterness who need a message of hope. If you're happy and optimistic--whoopdee do! But don't piss on the less fortunate in your midst.

Oh, and I cling to my faith and family too. It's probably a good thing I don't have a gun to cling to.

[GoldieAZ49]

12. bitter, angry and clingy

oh my!


:rofl:

[bigtree]

13. nice try. Whether we're bitter or not is beside the point

I just won't stand for you, Obama, Hillary or anyone else defining what I think, feel, or believe for me.

[tokenlib]

14. Obama wasn't defining, he was recognizing and respecting....

the feelings of those of us who feel "screwed."


The last thing I need to hear is about being optimistic and hardworking when the only place hiring is Wal-Mart...

[bigtree]

16. but, I wouldn't try and discourage those who won't admit to bitterness

. . . and remain optimistic, despite their own hardships, disappointments, and struggles, especially with the prospect of removing the republicans from control over the White House.

[stillcool]

19. good point...

[meow mix]

18. K&R

[Bensthename]

23. F-U.. I AM NOT BITTER.. That reaction cracks be up...

It is kind of ironic when I hear that..

[davsand]

24. Well, of COURSE you are bitter and angry! You aren't in a coma.

I honestly think that MOST of us at DU are carrying some form of anger at what our country has become in the last 8 years. It is kind of difficult to be awake and not be pissed off at an endless war based on lies, an economy that is in the shitter with jobs lost as a matter or course, foreclosures designed to benefit few and rape everyone else, and people STILL dying off due to lack of health care.

Personally, I am still kinda pissed off about the erosion of my civil liberties and the fact that lousy dumbass in the WhiteHouse twice vetoed any funding to provide even BASIC access to health care for kids. I'm also not terribly thrilled the fact that NAFTA and all the other tax breaks for corporations has pretty much rendered the US incapable of self sustaining in most industries--with little hope of ever recovering that ability--but I don't want to get started and highjack your thread.

In any event, I think that if you take the current Primary out of the equation, folks at DU ARE pissed off with good reason. I think we are ALL really f***ing bitter that the selection in 2000 got us to this point, and that anger is partially what is fueling the rancor between the two camps in this current Primary.

This too shall pass, and we are ALL counting down the days.



Laura

[Writer]

26. Why wouldn't we be bitter about Bush? n/t