I'm TIRED Of Worrying About Republicans. It's TIME For Them To WORRY About US!

[slinkerwink]

I'm tired of Hillary Clinton playing the classic concern troll, like many of her supporters across the internet, about what the Republicans will do against the Democratic nominee in November. I'm tired of worrying about tailoring our moves to "please" the Republicans so they don't beat us into a sorry pulp by playing into their right-wing frames. I'm tired of having fellow Democrats bash caucuses, Democratic activists, progressive organizations, and certain cities like San Francisco. I'm tired of always having the center moved further to the right and further to the right until we're squarely over on the right by these so-called Democrats who worry more about what the Republicans will do to them instead of what we'll do to them.

I'm TIRED of this bullshit about being worried about Republicans. It's high time for the Republicans to be WORRIED about us. You know why they should be worried? More of us turned out to VOTE, more of us registered to vote for the first time, and that was in the past Democratic primaries and contests. We have outraised the Republicans by massive amounts. We have the internet, we have strong and fervent supporters ready to give the old media hell in our backlash against their idiotic narratives. We are going to KICK THEIR ASSES in NOVEMBER!!!!

Let's fucking make these Republicans worried about us! It's why I'm voting for Obama because he's sick and tired of playing the old Washington game of worrying about Republicans as well.

[slinkerwink]

1. kick this thread if you agree with me!!!

[lisa58]

2. I second that

[anonymous171]

3. Hear Hear!

The most important aspect of a candidate is their ability to excite the base and get out the vote!

[rndmprsn]

4. K&R

amen brother!

they need to start worrying about us swiftboating their dear leader mcclame

[BzaDem]

5. IF Obama loses in a landslide, will you still have this attitude?

[slinkerwink]

8. He won't lose in a landslide. I'm not worried about that "concern" trolling.

[CindyKay]

14. Not A Chance!

Maybe in Your Dreams BUT Reality says He Will Win or Come Damn Close to it!

Hey Hil-LIAR-Y Screw You From A Florida Blue Collar Girl !

[BzaDem]

18. Fine. But keep in mind the same things were said about Kerry.

Republicans obviously have horrible positions on the issues that matter, and I don't understand how anyone could vote for them. But I'm willing to step outside of my own thoughts to realize that plenty of people will vote Republican over Obama, especially in the very states we need to win (OH, PA, FL). I don't look at arguments that say "we will win, no one can possibly lose against McSame," because those arguments are made year after year and they are almost always wrong. I look at evidence. And the evidence indicates that Hillary does better in swing states (causing us to win them), while Obama does better in solidly red states that won't cause us to win any more electoral votes.

[anonymous171]

21. Wasn't Kerry nominated b/c he was thought to be the most electable, and untouchable?

[slinkerwink]

24. and yep that turned out to be a losing argument. It should've been Dean.

[stillcool]

22. and plenty of people...

will vote for Obama over McCain. Look at the evidence.

[stillcool]

23. here's some interesting...

evidence about the 2004 election.
http://electionarchive.org/ucvAnalysis/US/Presidential-Election-2004.pdf

[TML]

35. Sure

Towards your candidate.

[Skidmore]

40. You should be way more concerned about the very high negatives of your candidate,

which poll high across parties. Hillary will not win the GE. Republicans don't like her any more than they did in the Nineties, and she has burned a good number of Dems too.

[NightWatcher]

6. shake up the establishment a little, kick it

[NJmaverick]

7. In other words time to replace fear with hope!

[CindyKay]

9. Amen To That!

Ya Damn Right & It's About Time TOO!

[The Traveler]

10. Now THAT sounds like a Democrat

I like it. Let's take it to 'em!

[SeattleGirl]

11. Amen!

I'm tired of being told that we have to be more like the Republicans because that's the only way we can win. Oh really? Then how come we keep losing? (Yes, I know, the SCOTUS and Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush and Ohio, but if we get the kind of turnout this year that I think we will, it'll be pretty damned hard for them to pull that shit yet again.)

[slinkerwink]

17. yep! The turnout tells us the real news!

[TommyO]

12. I don't want repukes to worry about us

I want them to fear us for exposing their crimes over the past several decades. I want them to cower in their boots and Prada shoes, wondering when they're going to be arrested for their war crimes. I want them, well, you get the idea.

[americanstranger]

13. Kicked & Recced, Slinkerwink.

And you and I both know they have a hell of a big reason to be worried.

His name is Barack Obama.

- as

[FrenchieCat]

15. Oh yes, honey! You know I'm bitter about this need to kiss GOP ass

every damn election that comes around.

I'm not going to take it anymore!

NOT THIS TIME!

[slinkerwink]

16. No more shovelling of that Republican bullshit! We're going to take it hard to them!

[That Is Quite Enough]

19. K'd and R'd

[melody]

20. Amen n/t

[starroute]

25. Badass left-wing Democrats? I'm all for that

The various factions of the extreme right have for decades successfully managed to exert power over the Republican Party as a whole -- while making the Democratic leadership shit its pants for fear of being labeled unAmerican.

In contrast, there is nobody on the left with that sort of power to either influence the Democratic Party or strike fear into the hearts of Republicans.

That, of course, is because the left has regularly been subjected to charges of being communists -- or being soft on communism, or merely holding some of the same positions as communists -- if they offered any kind of critique of centrist positions.

And that has left us weak, weaponless, and without a strong point from which to attack.

What's amazing is that even now, almost two decades after the fall of the Soviet Union, they're still trying to pull the same crap on Obama. Suggesting that not wearing a flag pin mean he's un-patriotic. Or that his former pastor hates America. Or that he has loose ties to 60's radical Bill Ayers. Or that the father he barely knew once said something nice about Marxism.

It's gotten to the point where Neocon Bill Kristol has even accused Obama of sounding like a Marxist in his "bitter" remark -- and that son of a dog Joe Lieberman, when asked about the Kristol column, agreed it was "a good question."

On one level, it's incredible that they would be pulling out *that* old playbook again. But on another, it makes sense. Once John Edwards introduced the class struggle into the campaign, it was inevitable that the right would fall back on commie-bashing. It's not even about Obama so much as it is their automatic position any time people start to wake up to the incontrovertible fact that free-market capitalism is a system designed to screw over 90% of the population, keep them poor and needy, and send their children off to die in wars of economic acquisition.

That's why I started applauding internally when I saw slinkerwink suggesting it's time to make the Republicans afraid of us -- because we have the power to do it.

Not just because there are more of us than there are of them. Not because we have the issues on our side. But because we know the magic words that will take away their power -- if we only dare to use them.

Our candidates can't take that risk -- not yet, anyway. But *we* can, and if we're going to win in November, we *must.*

We on the left have been accustomed to crawfish away from issues of class and distribution lest we taint our candidates -- and that's been a continuing disaster for us. Instead, we need to be more radical, more outspoken, more willing to inject those taboo subjects into the public discourse. In short, more badass.

Just for starters, a stream of radical and innovative ideas coming out of the left will give even mainstream candidates more breathing room. Instead of being pushed consistently to the right in the attempt to appear centrist, they will be able to pull further left while still seeming moderate.

And when, let us say hypothetically, Obama discovers around the middle of 2009 that none of the old approaches are solving the multiple catastrophes this nation faces and concludes (as Roosevelt did by 1934) that something more experimental is called for, we will be there with the fresh ideas and the original plans for him to appropriate (as Roosevelt did from people like Norman Thomas.)

But it can only happen if we have sufficient courage to be badass now.

After that, I think the next challenge will to make the case that much of the right has become authentically fascist -- as Newt Gingrich certainly proved himself to be in his most recent remarks about Americans having to surrender their freedom in order to preserve "society." But that is a battle that's probably still a little ways down the road.

[TML]

36. Fuck yeah!

:toast:

[DinahMoeHum]

26. Damn. Fucking. Right.

:kick::kick::kick:

[ClassWarrior]

27. Amen slink.

NGU.

[BlooInBloo]

28. They are worried. That's why they're working with Clinton supporters to defeat Obama...

... They get 2 cracks at him.

[futureliveshere]

29. AGREED!!!! K&R

[PM7nj]

30. K & R! Agree 100%

[CADEMOCRAT7]

31. Organize

I am new to DU. How is DU organized so that members are notified when we are to take action ? Do I have to search threads to find this ? Is there one area on the blog I go to ? Is there anyway to be notified ? We have the passion and the numbers. I feel we are a force when we are organized.

[butterfly77]

32. Damn straight!

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[Thepricebreaker]

33. If we keep fighting till Denver..They have no to fear us.. They are laughing at us.

[TML]

34. I'm armed and ready

I've been waiting eight years for payback. Get your blogs, your money and everything else ready to give them hell.

[lib2DaBone]

37. K&R.. Feel the Power..!

Yes... feel the power of pissed-off Americans! We are done talking to Republicans. $2 Billion a week for IRAQ... NOT A FUCKING PENNY for unemployed Tax Payers! What if Nancy Pelosi was really a Democrat? What if Harry Reid had a set of balls? I'm sick of this shit.. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.i._3qikpFQ&refer=home

[PragmatismRules]

38. If Obama really loved America he would drop out now

This country can ill afford to have someone with so little experience,and most importantly, guts, in charge.

[slinkerwink]

39. It takes a lot of guts for a black man to run in this country, quite frankly.

And to challenge the Clintons and topple them from their front-runner status.

[lib2DaBone]

41. Hillary can't get it done...

Hillary's biggest money contributer is Rupert Murdock of FAUX NEWS. Does that ring any bells?

[anonymous171]

42. George Steph has a DU account?

[lib2DaBone]

44. What

HUH ?

[backscatter712]

48. Who paid you to say that? Penn? Rove?

[SoonerPride]

43. Damn straight!

FEAR THE PEOPLE.

[leveymg]

45. KNR - the GOP are worried for good reason. They'll be swept way in November

This is going to be one of those great sea change elections, like 1932, and the Republican Party is going to become little more than a curious vestige of a bygone era.

[Coexist]

46. kick

[TragedyandHope]

47. Yes, agreed.

The "Republicans are going to do x, y and z" argument is one of the most absurd and hollow excuses I've ever heard. If you use Rethug tactics and you honestly believe the Democratic party can't win unless you do, then you might as well just switch and join the other party.

Climb out of the campaign trenches for a minute and look at the sorry shape the country is in. Then ask yourself if we really need our party to waste its energy on slinging Rethug proxy arguments and defending against them. We need to show the country that our candidate can pull the country out of the hole Bush has been digging over the past 8 years and move us forward. Recycling the old politics of fear and hate that got us into the mess we are in today is not any way to show that we can bring the country together to make it a better place.

We're moving beyond all the old crap and you're welcome to join us. Don't get left behind.

[GoldieAZ49]

49. Don't worry, be happy

or bitter, your choice.


The repubs are going to do whatever they need to in order to win, worrying about it isn't going to change that.

Our job is to nominate the best candidate we have with a record of leadership beyond reproach.