The News analysts are saying Hillary is expected to win by 10 points

[Quixote1818]

and if she wins by less than that, then Obama will have momentum. If she wins by more than that Hillary will have momentum.

I have heard two news analysts say this now. So, a 10 point win for Hillary or basically she loses momentum.

[PBS Poll-435]

1. Don't worry.

12-22 points.

[Cha]

16. You just want the Bosnian Sniper LIar to

keep spewing her bitter shit.

[PBS Poll-435]

17. No, I want her to win

And pick Obama as her running mate.

[Exilednight]

44. Obama wouldn't take the VP slot. Hillary needs Obama, but Obama doesn't need Hillary..........

the truth is the truth. IF Hillary were to win the nomination, she has to pick Obama as her VP, the question is; would he accept? If he's smart, and we all know he is, he wouldn't accept. There's nothing for him to gain as VP. He knows the real VP would be Bill and whomever Hillary were to choose would be pushed to the back of the bus unless it is someone who completely agrees with her.

[TheCowsCameHome]

27. Nice spread.

That gives Obama 78-88%

:rofl: :rofl:

[dchill]

33. Hedging your bet?

:shrug:

[PBS Poll-435]

37. Nope.

I have HOPE!

For Change!

Gallup already changed, after all...

[dchill]

43. Yes! And so did Newsweek.

But a 10-point variance after predicting to the decimal point? That's a hedge!
:)

[PBS Poll-435]

46. Newsweeks Circ is down...Maybe fluff a poll to get some readers?

:shrug:

[BlooInBloo]

2. No - they're moving the goalposts - lessening expectations. The expectation is 20 points...

.... Anything less than that is an Obama net win.

[dchill]

35. The media are disgusting...

"Conventional wisdom" = Whatever they decide it is. To win the delegate count, she needs to win by 80%, starting Tuesday. Good luck with that.

[saintandrew]

3. That is setting the bar too low for Obama

Obama is now 1 to 5% behind. How can losing by 9% give Obama momentum?

[PM7nj]

6. She blew a 20pt lead in 4 weeks.

[saintandrew]

12. Exactly, so that means that NOW Obama has momentum

We can't selectively choose a point in time that will determine who has "momentum" or not.

What if Clinton wins by 15%? Does it mean that Obama gets momentum because he was down 20% at the time you cited?

[Quixote1818]

25. The number is whatever the Media decides they want to make it

It looks like they have settled on 10 points.

[Quixote1818]

8. Because that is what she was expected to win by several weeks ago

If he gets closer than 10 points it will show he cut deeply into her lead.

[ShortnFiery]

14. Oh Brother! ... Welcome (back?) to DU.

:eyes:

[anonymous171]

4. I guessed 5-9 point victory for Hillary.

[Pharaoh]

5. And of course

the News analysts know WTF is going on...........

[ShortnFiery]

7. IMO, the media elites and HRC are attempting to SUPPRESS the vote in PA. Stand Strong!

This is bunk.

We MUST continue to support and encourage the Obama folks organizing "on the ground" in PA.

Don't let Tweety's bullshit about PA be taken as the gospel. That pseudo-journalist is often wrong.

We've got your back - Obama Supporter and organizer in PA. :hi:

Yes. We. Can. PA! :patriot:

[Cha]

18. You organizing in PA,

Fiery! That's Awesome..thank you! :patriot: :bounce: :kick: :party:

[Zachstar]

9. I still think Obama can keep it within 5 but likely under 10.

This train trip has revealed support and I think he can narrow it down to 5!

Under 10 is fine tho. heck even 12-15 is sort of ok as Clinton was expected to win by 20.

Just have to wait and see I guess! Looking forward to the Harrisburg Rally for Obama!!

[ORDem]

38. Calm down O supporters! He's only 211 pledged delegates away

from having the majority of them. Hillary can't stop him from reaching that milestone. Once he's got that he's essentially won and the SDs will come over to him in droves. PA is just a little bump on the road. :dem:

[FrenchieCat]

10. Well we better go by what our masters say.......

after all, they are the boss of us.

[gateley]

11. There have been some exciting primaries thus far,

but this one takes the cake, IMO.

[Dbdmjs1022]

13. I can agree with that

I think Obama can keep it within 5 with good turnout. But she needs over 10% margin to call it a real victory.

[Milo_Bloom]

15. She needs 65% to gain ground.. anything less is a loss.

[PBS Poll-435]

19. No..she needs 51% to gain ground.

And 65% to humiliate.

[anonymous171]

20. lol no

She was always expected to win PA since the beginning.

[PBS Poll-435]

22. It is a good thing she will win with much more than 51%

[Milo_Bloom]

23. Would I be correct in presuming that....

"Ignored" hasn't spent any time at the delagate counter?

Without 65%, she is officially done and gone.

[PBS Poll-435]

39. Would I be correct in presuming that....

"Not Ignored" put me on "Ignore" because she had no clue about tax returns and charitable gift trusts, and put me on "Ignore" because she was found to be wrong on every point?

[Milo_Bloom]

45. "Ignored" must be really tweaked, since they keep beating their head against that wall.

[SoCalDem]

28. Surely she's humilated enough by now, don't you think?

In Nov 07, she OWNED the presidency and was THIRTY-THREE points ahead of Obama.. She should be humiliated enough by now :)

[Buzz Clik]

31. 51% will be the equivalent of a landslide loss.

65% might be enough to keep her in the race until she loses in NC, and then she's done.

Here are yesterday's poll numbers.



65% is not possible even in the wildest extrapolation.

[Gore1FL]

47. and 75%

to have a chance at the nomination.

[southern_belle]

21. I think Obama will WIN PA by 1-3 points!

:hi: :thumbsup:

[Kittycat]

24. I've heard every analyst say that she has to win by 10/double digits.

And anything less than 7% could prove fatal for her.

[AtomicKitten]

26. The polls are all over the place so IMO it's a crapshoot.

Polling has been privatized and politicized and thus no longer reliably reliable. She had a monster lead at the beginning of the year. We'll see how much of a dent he put in that. Oh, throw in the electronic voting machines and anything could happen. Oy.

[MarjorieG]

29. Not a level playing field. Inside machine politics add at least 5.

[Buzz Clik]

30. She has no momentum. And 10 points will be meaningless.

She needs 15 point or more to make even the slightest scratch in the delegate lead. Keep in mind that she's about to get cleaned in North Carolina, and Indiana is likely to be very close.

The clock is ticking.

[IsItJustMe]

32. Ignore them. You know more than they do. Honestly.

[slinkerwink]

34. she'll win by 12

[backscatter712]

36. Ten points ain't enough.

Hell, 20 points ain't enough to save Hillary's campaign.

I'm hoping Obama pulls off a victory, but yeah, Pennsylvania is tough - lots of Archie Bunkers in that state.

Still, plan for the worst, and hope for the best. And the worst case scenario just isn't very bad for Obama this late in the game.

Enjoy the victory, fellow Obamaites. Even if we lose, enjoy the victory.

[grantcart]

40. MSNBC is saying that the Clinton campaign is hoping for 5 points

[DerekJ]

41. You're kidding right?!! n/t

[grantcart]

42. go to the link and find the clip "Clinton turns up the heat"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/


They quote the campaign saying it is down to 3-4 points and hoped to retain that - it also shows a woman telling her she felt sorry for her because of Bills affair.