We ALL agree Whitewater was bogus. So, WHY did the powerful REALLY spend 4yrs in Rose Law Firm?

[blm]

Why would any of us believe that there was even two years worth of files on Whitewater land deal, when WE KNOW the man who brought BCCI into this country, JACKSON STEPHENS, was the firm's biggest client, and BCCI report released in Dec 1992 clearly stated that there were many outstanding matters that NEEDED FURTHER SCRUTINY?

And, what of Monsanto and other firms who engineered our agriculture who had extensive files at Rose Law Firm?

And, what of WalMart's extensive dealings (FYI-Jackson Stephens staked WalMart) with Chinese industrialists and financiers that existed at Rose Law Firm?

What other antiAmerican, antilabor and anticonsumer dealings were going on at Rose Law Firm that the powerful elite cronies of BushInc would need to get into that law firm and scrub it clean for those involved?

[Cassandra]

1. Don't know but...

this is all very interesting.

[juno jones]

2. rec'd

I hope you are about to answer some of the questions you have posed.

Clinton's history w/RLF is something I know only vaguely about, but what I know isn't really flattering.

[blm]

9. I only recently learned about the ties to Monsanto from an environmental activist's essay

posted here at DU as threads by several posters.

[juno jones]

10. I think I've seen that one,

but I was heading off to work and didn't have time to really read it. I'll have to go back and find it, thanks.

[HooptieWagon]

3. Things that make you go hmmmm....

[KoKo]

4. K&R....

[leveymg]

5. Rose/Stephens brought together Saudi and Chinese money, Bush CIA/GOP, Clinton Dems, and the NSA

A powerful combination that brought us the Total Surveillance State, Jobless America, and the Long War.

Toxic on so many levels to democracy. No wonder they decided to keep the worms in the can once they pried the lid off and saw what was crawling around inside.

[blm]

8. I think it's apparent that Whitewater was the necessary cover for the scrubbing of files

of these major matters that were basically the early foundations for the coming fascist state.

And Clintons aren't DUMB enough to not know what was going on, and we've seen they are chummy enough with GHWBush and his cronies to go along with the ruse in exchange for the White House.

[HereSince1628]

11. How did that work? What would be evidence of that?

Were the files disappeared/destroyed?
Were the file altered?
Were the files turned into classified documents/state secrets by being part of discovery in an investigation?

How would we know?

[blm]

12. Well, considering there were so many outstanding matters in BCCI - and Stephens was named

as a key figure in BCCI, it strikes me as strange that investigators poring over all the Rose Law Firm files looking for any criminal activity they could pin on Clintons (smokescreen, imo)that they managed to NOT find anything of federal concern in all of Stephens' files. And considering he was the man who BROUGHT the terrorist bank BCCI into this country for Poppy and his friends, isn't that just a bit TOO incredible?

[HereSince1628]

13. I still don't get the scrubbing part.

In my mind not saying anything is something different from making information in files disappear. Just saying...

And there is nothing wrong with wondering what was found and ignored. That's how missing history gets rediscovered.

[blm]

14. Except this is Poppy Bush - you think he'd LEAVE any BCCI matters in those files

that could come back to haunt him?

I really doubt those files were left intact and accessible to anyone but the innermost circle of Bush cronies.

[HereSince1628]

15. I'm not sure the sort of folks who worked at Rose Law FIrm would leave

anything around that might come back to haunt them. LOL.

But my uncertainty is only doubt.


Seems to me you are appealing to Team B methods. It was Team B member Richard Cheney who said...if we can imagine it, you know the bad guys are working on it.

[blm]

16. heh...it was also a Congressman Dick Cheney who told the press that the

senator who was investigating a matter called IranContra (which opened the doors to BCCI) was just a 'conspiracy theory nut' and we know how truthful Dick was about that, eh?

[HereSince1628]

17. Well, then you are in good company with Mr. Cheney

aren't you?

[blm]

18. Hmmm...not quite sure what that means.

I am absolutely certain that Kerry was NOT a conspiracy theory nut. I have read the BCCI report.

[leveymg]

20. The Clintons were "discovered" by Mrs. Harriman , whose late husband employed the Bush-Walker clan

If you absolutely must know who it was who created the DLC Democrats, it was she. Pamela Digby-Churchill-Harriman, chief patron and "savior" of the Democratic Party while Bush-Reagan were in the White House. "The greatest courtesan of the 20th Century", as her third husband, Broadway producer Leland Hayward called her. Raised $12 million to put Bill and Hill into the White House in 1992. http://www.samsloan.com/pamela-h.htm

The Churchill girls were notorious international agents of influence. Had been for decades. Winston's sister got very close to the first Soviet Ambassador in London, close enough to set up the Russian in a phony scandal with the Labour Party that sank the first progressive British Labour Government in 1923.

The Bushes and the Clintons were just hired help, employed by the same family that also ran U.S. and British military intelligence from WWI through WWII. Cousin Winston ran the Tory Party and SIS from London, while Gen. Marlboro Churchill, head of MID, otherwise known as Army Intelligence, was in charge of things on this side of the Pond. That coincided in America with the first Red Scare, false flag bombings on Wall Street, and the Palmer Raids right after WWI. Just a coincidence, but the European fascist movements also started getting big money from Harriman and Morgan banks at this time. That's right, it's all in the family.

The more things change . . . as they say.

If you don't believe me, just look it up for yourself.

[blm]

21. I know Harriman's connections to Bill. Jackson Stephens was the man in charge of the 'grooming'

of Clintons on the ground in Arkansas.

Did Bill EVER see a BushInc CIA covert operation that he DIDN'T like? I don't think so.

[ArkySue]

6. How do you know what files

are/were at the Rose Law Firm, and what any files might contain?
Sounds like made-up gossip to me.

[blm]

7. Jackson Stephens had NO FILES at Rose Law Firm? So being Rose's biggest client is MADE-UP

gossip to you? No WalMart-China dealings?

Are you sure you want to go on the record with that claim?

[Hart2008]

19. Kick