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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:40 PM
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What results are you HOPING for in the PA primary?
Not what you think will happen, but what you want to happen, or what margin you will be satisfied with. Obviously everyone wants their candidate to win by 100%, but lets be realistic. :)


For myself, anything under a 10% Clinton win would be great. A few percent over that would be okay... but much more than that and I won't be too happy.

What would satisfy you?
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:41 PM
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1. an Obama win
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:42 PM
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2. so if he loses by a few percent...
you won't be satisfied?
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM
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11. nope
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM by YDogg
not entirely
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gokansas Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:14 PM
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41. Obama wins. Hillary quits! And leaves us alone!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:45 PM
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8. A convincing O win to put this shit to bed.
And get on with taking on the Republicants.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM
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13. YES YES YES YES YES
I wanna end this mess right now!
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:20 PM
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34. 10.66% or less for clinton
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:23 PM by Boz
16 delegate to her plus side which will be killed and nullified by NC and then further by superdelegates moving following PA

In an ideal world Obama wins, but he wont so he has to keep the spread between 7.5%(which I expect)and 10.66% which is my worst case number.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:44 PM
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3. Obama wins. Hillary quits. The end.
But I'll take a 7% loss.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:20 PM
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43. Amen Brother.
Except that 7% loss bit. I won't accept that, considering it will mean that I didn't work hard enough.

I plan on working hard enough. ;)
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:44 PM
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4. Obama breaking even with Hillary ending her run then and there. Or a win by ...
... by a few percentage points.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:44 PM
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5. 20% Hilary win so Obama starts whining again...
...music to my ears.

Well, you asked.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:45 PM
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6. I hate to sound like the Rodney King,
but I'm hopeful that if Clinton does decide to bow out, that her supporters will be okay with that and we can come together again.

I make myself retch sometimes, but that's what I'm hoping for.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:45 PM
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7. Marking time til Obama can finally turn to beating McCain's sorry ass.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:46 PM
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9. a juicy tie.
nah just kidding, Obama by about 25 percent...I can DREAM cant I?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:46 PM
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10. I'd love for Obama to get an outright win no matter how narrow the margin,
but if he loses, I'll be OK with a net delegate gain no bigger than OH.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM
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12. My hopefully realistic wish -- Obama +2 to 5%
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM
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14. I hope Obama wins by 3%,
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM
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15. Any result that would end this debacle would satisfy me
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:47 PM
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16. Hillary winning 6% or less
would be a victory for Obama, that's what I hope for.
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:50 PM
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17. I hope the good people of PA wake up on Tuesday and decide
it's time to start the GE against McCain by, for all intent and purpose, ending the primary season with a rip roaring and resounding victory for Obama.

I'll be very happy with any sort of victory for Obama. I'll be satisfied if he keeps it close. I predict (and I only have this silly glass table top on my desk to look at - as opposed to these crystal ball things that so many other folks have) Hillary wins by around 12 or 14 - which will not thrill me but still will not be enough for her to make the kind of upward movement she has to make at this point.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:51 PM
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18. Obama by one vote
Because than it would be over and I could party like an Ewok.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:01 PM
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25. Holy crap. Get out of my mind, you freaks!
You DU people read my mind, it's freakin me out.
I was just thinking today that the month of November is going to be a four week long Ewok party.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:13 PM
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40. I have the Ewok song
From the original Return of the Jedi. To bad her supporters don't where helmets. I'd make a kickass drum set out of them
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:52 PM
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19. a lot of you are setting your expectations very high...
I respect your opinions, but I feel an Obama win is extremely unlikely, and if Clinton wins by less than 10% that NC 2 weeks later could pretty much end this.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:57 PM
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23. You asked for HOPES not EXPECTATIONS. Stop moving the goalposts.
I EXPECT Hillary to win by 18%.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:02 PM
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26. I know that, settle down. honestly....
I am just saying, it seems for most people only an Obama win would satisfy them and I don't really see why that is.

If people aren't going to be satisfied with a 3% Clinton win, there is no way I'm coming here during the primary.

I feel anything less than a 10% win for Clinton should satisfy Obama supporters, but I guess most people disagree with me.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:24 PM
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35. That's where I'm at, expectation-wise Hillary 10% or less would be ok
That means she keeps going, of course, so in an ideal scenario they tie or Obama beats her by 1%. I really think she might drop out in that case.
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:55 PM
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20. A 1% Obama victory would be funny as shit !!!
Realistically,a single digit loss would be acceptable.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:31 PM
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39. Unfortunately, barring a precision lightning bolt
Obama will continue to have his psycho stalker tailing him for a month longer...hurling insults at him as she scurries around looking for photo-ops and free airtime..
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:57 PM
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21. 85-15 Hillary.
I will settle with her winning with 12-22, though.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:27 PM
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37. It's time for your injection
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:29 PM
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38. I can't hope?
Without Thorazine?
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:57 PM
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22. Clinton by 8
IS a win for Obama - everyone knows that.

I'll take that.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:01 PM
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24. under 8%. nt
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:02 PM
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27. Philly and the burbs will put it over the top for Obama.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:09 PM
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28. A six point spread either way should put one more big nail in her presidential hopes.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:10 PM
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29. A clinton win
keeping it close enough to help force a brokered convention.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:11 PM
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31. Why, LWolf? nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:03 AM
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46. Because the only possibility
that I see for a good candidate, and a candidate that can win in November, is for a brokered convention that gives us neither Clinton nor Obama, but a 3rd less polarizing candidate.

Since Obama is now "leading," that means that Clinton would have to win a few more to keep it close enough to bring about that brokered convention.

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:06 PM
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50. I've thought of that as well, but...
The rub is how that could happen without angering and disaffecting the supporters of Clinton and Obama. The feeling is they've worked for it, as have their volunteers. Could that be overcome?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:14 PM
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52. I think so, although it is an important consideration.
I don't think Obama supporters will all accept Clinton, and vice versa. That's part of the problem.

I think that, if Clinton and Obama stepped forward in the interest of uniting the party in November and endorsed the "compromise" candidate, that would help. In reality, there were only 2 primaries and 2 caucuses (discounting the mess with Michigan and Florida) before Clinton and Obama were the only two left standing. That's not exactly a majority of Democrats weighing in on the larger field.

I also think that the choice of nominee would make a difference. Gore, if he would accept it, would be the obvious choice, and an elegant way to bring the GWB era to a close. If not, then perhaps Edwards, who earned some delegates in this race.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:23 PM
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53. I could go for that.
Gore, at least. If Edwards hadn't run and lost in the primaries, it might be different, but I don't see him carrying taking the mantel from two candidates who beat him.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:34 PM
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54. Gore is obviously the first and best choice.
I feel confident that the party would unify behind him. We've already nominated him, and elected him, once.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:10 PM
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30. 56-44
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:10 PM by ellisonz
OBAMA
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:11 PM
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32. Obama 38% Edwards 30% Clinton 29%
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:11 PM
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33. Hope: Obama by greater than 5%. Realistic: Obama keeps it within 5%
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:25 PM
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36. Clinton will win by 12. I'm hoping for Obama to come behind 8 pts or less.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:19 PM
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42. 49.5 to 49.5
:wow:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:23 PM
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44. My hope would be a Obama win, by any margin. It would end the race then and there.
Obama can survive a PA loss; Hillary cannot.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:17 PM
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45. A big Clinton win.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:05 AM
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47. I'd love to see an Obama win
But I'll be satisfied if he he loses by a margin of 5% or less.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:10 AM
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48. A wooden stake through Hillary's heart.
followed by cutting off her head and stuffing her mouth with garlic.

The press has been making this a horse race, because on top of their obvious bias as to who they want to win, they'd be forced to cover the Iraq War and Bush's crimes if
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:44 AM
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49. I agree..anything under 10 I would be thrilled. If it is under 20 I could live with it. Anything
more than that I would be extremely concerned for Barack.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:07 PM
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51. Same.
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