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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:49 PM
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While Hillary is discussing Ayers and Wright, let's look at some of the Clintons' people links
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 09:10 PM by ProSense
Dick Morris:

After the 1994 election, Democrats had just lost both houses of Congress, and President Clinton was floundering in the polls. At the urging of his wife, he turned to Dick Morris, a friend from their time in Arkansas. Morris brought in two pollsters from New York, Doug Schoen and his partner, Mark Penn, a portly, combative workaholic. Morris decided what to poll and Penn polled it. They immediately pushed Clinton to the right, enacting the now-infamous strategy of "triangulation," which co-opted Republican policies like welfare reform and tax cuts and emphasized small-bore issues that supposedly cut across the ideological divide. "They were the ones who said, 'Make the '96 election about nothing except V-chips and school uniforms,'" says a former adviser to Bill. When Morris got caught with a call girl, Penn became the most important adviser in Clinton's second term. "In a White House where polling is virtually a religion," the Washington Post reported in 1996, "Penn is the high pri est."

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Clinton Strategist Resigns

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President Clinton issued a written statement that also made no mention of the allegations against his advisor. "Dick Morris is my friend and a superb political strategist," the statement said. "I am and always will be grateful for the great contributions to my campaign and the invaluable work that he has done for me for the past two years." (Mike McCurry reads Clinton's statement: 192K WAV sound)

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Dickie Scruggs:

Soon after Scruggs was charged, Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton canceled a fundraiser at his Oxford home. Scruggs' law firm withdrew from the remaining Katrina cases.

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Norman Hsu:

Hsu Heads to Prison

By Paul Kiel - January 4, 2008, 4:28PM

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better for Norman Hsu, the bizarre Hillraiser and fraudster.


Peter Paul:

The Shocking Video Hillary Does NOT Want You To See! (1of2)

Vin Gupta:

SEC Opens Investigation of Company Headed by Key Supporter of Clintons

InfoUSA said last month its annual report would be delayed because of an ongoing Securities and Exchange Commission investigation and a shareholder lawsuit that questions the company's spending.

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InfoUSA formed a special board committee of five directors in December to respond to the SEC investigation and shareholder lawsuit, which alleges that the company misspent millions, some of it on former President Bill Clinton and U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.

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The shareholder lawsuit questions why InfoUSA founder Vin Gupta used private corporate jets to fly the Clintons on business, personal and campaign trips, why Gupta gave Bill Clinton a $3.3 million consulting contract and why the company paid for extravagant luxuries Gupta enjoyed.

According to the lawsuit, InfoUSA has spent nearly $900,000 since 2001 flying the Clintons to domestic and international locations and political events.

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Ron Burkle:

Finally, according to USA Today, former Clinton aides helped secure a multi-million dollar federal contract for a Georgia-based company in which Yucaipa had 20% ownership. AmeriCold, one of the nation's largest cold-storage companies, was paid up to $85 million, to help with Katrina recovery efforts after James Lee Witt, who headed Federal Emergency Management Agency in the Clinton administration, lobbied on the company's behalf.

AmeriCold's job performance became the subject of controversy and bad publicity. As USA Today wrote: "truckers who were paid $800 a day (to help Katrina victims) hauled ice from state to state without unloading, then delivered their cargoes to AmeriCold and other storage facilities as far away from the Gulf Coast as Maine."

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Tax lawyers said the Yucaipa partnership income for Bill Clinton looks to be a form of salary because it was in round numbers for most years.

``Most people who make that much money work for it,'' said Yale University tax law professor Michael Graetz, a former Treasury Department official in President George H.W. Bush's administration. ``What are they being paid for, and if it's the Sheikh of Dubai paying the husband of somebody who might be the next president of the United States, what do they think they're paying for?''

Jay Carson, a spokesman for New York Senator Clinton, said in an e-mailed statement that former President Clinton is a partner in a Yucaipa fund and ``provides his best advice on potential investments, advocates generally on behalf of the funds, and seeks to create opportunities for investors to consider investing in the fund.''

Carson didn't respond to a question about whether Bill Clinton did any work for Dubai. In 2006 Senator Clinton opposed efforts by a Dubai-based company to acquire control over six U.S. ports.

Tax Returns

The payments from Yucaipa to Bill Clinton were detailed in seven years of tax returns released by Hillary Clinton, 60, following pressure to disclose them from rival Barack Obama, the Illinois senator who made public his own returns in March.

The returns covered tax years 2000 through 2006. Hillary Clinton's campaign also released information about the couple's 2007 income, although they haven't yet filed a return for that year. Obama has yet to release information on his 2007 income.

The former president, 61, received $1 million from Yucaipa in 2003, $4 million in 2004 and $5 million in 2005. In 2006, he received a guaranteed payment of $2.5 million plus a $156,611 share of the profits. The campaign said he earned $2.75 million from partnership income in 2007.

``The flat amounts received from Yucaipa are odd,'' said Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of taxation at the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, who agreed that it signaled Bill Clinton was performing a service. ``That's quite unusual.''

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Doug Coe:

In the process of introducing powerful men to Jesus, the Family has managed to effect a number of behind-the-scenes acts of diplomacy. In 1978 it secretly helped the Carter Administration organize a worldwide call to prayer with Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat, and more recently, in 2001, it brought together the warring leaders of Congo and Rwanda for a clandestine meeting, leading to the two sides' eventual peace accord last July. Such benign acts appear to be the exception to the rule. During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa's postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand “Communists” killed marks him as one of the century's most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise. “We work with power where we can,” the Family's leader, Doug Coe, says, “build new power where we can't.”

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In her autobiography, “Living History,” Senator Clinton describes Coe as "a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God.” She writes that “Doug became a source of strength and friendship" during her often-troubled White House years.

Their relationship began in February 1993 with a prayer lunch at The Cedars, the Fellowship’s Virginia estate on the Potomac River. NBC News reviewed the First Lady’s official daily calendar, recently made public by the National Archives, and found other gatherings including a “Private Meeting” with Coe in her West Wing office on December 19, 1997, and a “Meet & Greet with Business Leaders” on Feb. 4, 1998. “Doug Coe introduces business leaders to the First Lady,” the calendar states.

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Kase Lawal:

HOUSTON — A Texas oilman who's accused of defrauding the Nigerian government by illegally pumping and exporting 10 million barrels of oil is a major fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

Kase Lawal of Houston is at least the fourth person accused or convicted of criminal wrongdoing to help finance Clinton's political ambitions since 2000 and the second in her quest for the White House. The list also includes Chinese and Pakistani fugitives and a former Miami lawyer who was convicted of defrauding Cuba.

There's no indication that Clinton's campaign was aware of Lawal's legal problems when it accepted his help in raising more than $100,000, but a McClatchy investigation in the U.S. and Nigeria suggests that her campaign did little to scrutinize the background of one of its top fundraisers.

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However, a simple Google search by McClatchy produced reports of serious allegations about some of Lawal's business dealings in Nigeria and South Africa.

Clinton's campaign lists Lawal among about 250 "Hillraisers" who pledged to collect at least $100,000 in donations. Clinton attended a fundraising luncheon at Lawal's home in Houston last Aug. 11 that generated more than $100,000, and she spoke to about 250 guests gathered around Lawal's indoor swimming pool, including two former Houston mayors and Shell Oil President John Hofmeister.

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Mark Penn (and Bill):

Death Squads, Trade and Democracy in Columbia vs. Venezuela
By Nathan Newman - April 8, 2008, 5:00PM

The discussion of Mark Penn's representation of Columbia while being a top aide to Hillary Clinton inevitably gets reduced to discussions of the politics of trade, or just plain electoral politics.

But let's be clear, the government of Columbia is uniquely hated by the global labor movement. In no other country are labor leaders ROUTINELY murdered in the streets. Not fired from their jobs, not jailed, but killed by rightwing paramilitary forces that linked to rightwing forces backing the exact government paying Mark Penn's exorbinant commission. See this chart of union murders by EPI, outlining recent years of killings, in a country where more than 2,534 unionists have been assassinated over the last 21 years.

Now compare this to Venezeuela's Chavez, not my favorite representative of leftist leadership, but still a head of government who faced rightwing labor leaders who led a general strike against him and even collaborated with a coup against him. Yet Chavez did not have those labor leaders murdered or even engage in mass jailings. Instead, he fought elections both at the polls and within the labor movement itself. It's a messy story and some not always stellar democratic actions, but compared to a place like Columbia where labor relations have involved death squads, a shining beacon of democracy.

There is little doubt that if Clinton had a top strategist being paid tens of thousands of dollars by Hugo Chavez to represent that country's interests, mainstream media would be in complete witchhunt mode and Clinton would probably be in a death spiral. Yet protests against Mark Penn's association with a country, where death squads are a routine part of its country's politics suppressing labor rights, are treated by many in the media as some kind of special interest protest.

That we are even discussing rewarding the Uribe regime with enhanced trade relations, instead of debating sanctions, or at least withdrawal of U.S. aid to his regime, is a travesty. But Mark Penn and the corrupt bipartisan culture of lobbyists supporting regimes like Uribe's to promote trade deals at the expense of workers in both countries is exactly the problem. The sad part of the story is that the guy stepping into Penn's position as chief strategist, Howard Wolfson, remains an equity partner at the Glover Park Group (even though he is officially separated from the firm), which also is lobbying on behalf of the Columbia free trade deal.

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Marc Rich:

Clinton has also been challenged by members of Congress for accepting a reported $450,000 donation to his library from the former wife of fugitive financier Marc Rich before he granted Rich a pardon for tax evasion in 2001. Neither Clinton nor the Rich family confirmed the donation.

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Pardoned convicted felons:

Would You Pardon Them?

Monday, Feb. 26, 2001

In eight years as President, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton each issued roughly 400 pardons. But in their final days, just 10 trickled out of Reagan's White House, while 177 flooded out of Clinton's. And Marc Rich's pardon isn't the only one that appalled federal prosecutors. While most of the 177 were for minor drug and fraud offenses, roughly a third raise serious questions. A TIME analysis of the pardon fever--the symptoms included well-connected lawyers and pols pulling strings, bypassing the Justice Department and sending petitions directly to the White House, often at the last minute--turned up these eye-popping remissions of sin.

The Big Apple Gang

U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White is furious at Clinton for several New York cases. In 1993 and '94, Harvey Weinig, 53, helped launder at least $19 million for the Cali drug cartel. Justice strongly opposed his petition, but Clinton commuted Weinig's 11-year sentence--cutting it in half--and now he is scheduled to be set free. Last week White released documents showing Weinig was also involved in a kidnapping plot. Former White House aide David Dreyer, a relative of Weinig's, told TIME he asked Clinton chief of staff John Podesta and former White House counsel Beth Nolan for the commutation "as an act of mercy."

Edward Downe Jr., a publishing and financial executive, pleaded guilty to insider trading in 1993. He was sentenced to three years' probation, and paid $11 million in fines. Downe has contributed $21,500 to Democrats since 1991, including $1,000 to Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign. His application went straight to Clinton, and White's office learned about it only the night before his pardon.

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The Radicals

White is also upset about the commutation Clinton gave to Susan Rosenberg, who was convicted in 1984 of carrying explosives and weapons for the Weather Underground. One of Rosenberg's guns was bought with fake ID by Linda Sue Evans, who also took part in the 1983 bombing of an empty room at the U.S. Capitol to protest the invasion of Grenada. Clinton's order freed both from prison.

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Sen. Chuck Schumer was among the critics of Susan Rosenberg's pardon.

Richard Mellon Scaife



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:53 PM
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1. Yeah....but they aren't Black guys and stuff......
you know. The Clintons don't have to be perfect. Not even close. Not even kinda of close. Hell, not even by a mile. Being corrupt is actually cool, when you're White and have a shitload of money, that is.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:54 PM
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2. I think that this whole experience has been extremely painful for Sen Schumer
I am guessing he will be ahead of the final committee that gives Hillary the word that she can continue if she wants to but she's about to become the most hated person of the Senate Democratic Caucus.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:07 PM
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6. That's an official or unofficial position in the Caucus? Most Hated Person? LOL!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:26 PM
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13. sorry who ever it is -- you have been deemed an official waste of time
and I am no longer intersted in exchanging opinions with you
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:07 PM
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17. I can't imagine anyone but a
greedy, self-serving individual being proud of the campaign Hillary has run. Some of those supporting her have put loyalty above principle, but that doesn't say they're proud, just loyal.

From the letter threatening to withdraw financial support for the Democratic Party to Bob Johnson's reiteration of Ferraro "affirmative action" point, I can't imagine why anyone would be proud.





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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:29 PM
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19. schumer is against impeachment and dismisses it like he was
louis the sun king when it comes up, the fucker. I hope she bites his head off.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:58 PM
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3. In some ways, this reminds me of the HRC supporters who keep bringing up Rezko....except...
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:59 PM by DAGDA56
...in this case, there are so damn many! When you add it all up, MethuneMuse and IndieProgressive (and some notable others) are playing a pretty weak hand.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:07 PM
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5. Quantity is not the only difference here. n/t
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:08 PM
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7. You're right...quality also matters...perhaps more so...
...sorry I forgot you.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:06 PM
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4. That's it? If you asked about Morris I'm positive she would denounce him,
probably already has.

She threw Scruggs under the bus, same with Hsu, Paul, and Penn.

Gupta, Lawal, and Burkle - What about them? If they have done anything illegal and we find out about it, what does Hillary have to do with what they have done?
I'm sure, if asked, she would denounce any possible illegal activities and distance herself.

What does she have to do with Marc Rich? Richard Mellon Scaife?- His paper endorsed Obama.

If you see any pattern here, it would be that Hillary doesn't endorse or continue to support people who have done illegal things or who

are damaging. Obama does and continues to do so.

Apples and Oranges.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:15 PM
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11. So the paper endorsing Obama means that he is friends with Sciafe?
"Gupta, Lawal, and Burkle - What about them? "

Oh, nothing (denial).

Does Penn still work for Hillary?

Your comment is nonsense!

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:21 PM
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12. Where does it say or imply that Scaife is a friend of Obama"s?
Lawal's activities along with Burkle and Gupta's have nothing to do with her and I'm sure she would welcome questions about them.

She smacked down Penn and what damaging relationship does she have with him that would harm her chances in the GE?


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:30 PM
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14. So then what's your point besides the paper endorse Obama? Did Bill make $800,000 from the
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 09:30 PM by ProSense
Colombian government and is he pushing the trade deal? Are you going to tell me she has nothing to do with Bill?

Did she fire Mark Penn? Did she just find out about his association?



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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:34 PM
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15. Have the question come up in a debate, if Obambi doesn't chicken out,
and we will see how she answers it.

She probably won't use the Rev Wright "defense" that she had no idea what was going on.

Anyway the trade deal may be harmful in the primary, but how does it become a liability in the general?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:42 PM
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16. Will she use the Bosnia of NAFTA defense:
lie?

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:36 PM
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21. She was asked about that in the debate. She faced the music and apologized,
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:36 PM by 2rth2pwr
no dancing, no stammering, no nervous squirming. Obama needs to man up.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:16 PM
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23. She lied and squirmed while admitting to lying
SENATOR CLINTON: Well, Tom, I can tell you that I may be a lot of things, but I'm not dumb. And I wrote about going to Bosnia in my book in 2004. I laid it all out there. And you're right. On a couple of occasions in the last weeks I just said some things that weren't in keeping with what I knew to be the case and what I had written about in my book. And, you know, I'm embarrassed by it. I have apologized for it. I've said it was a mistake. And it is, I hope, something that you can look over, because clearly I am proud that I went to Bosnia. It was a war zone.

General Wesley Clark is here in the audience with me as one of my major supporters. He and I were talking about it before I came out. You know, our soldiers were there to try to police and keep the peace in a very dangerous area. They were totally in battle gear. There were concerns about the potential dangers. The former president of Bosnia has said that he was worried about the safety of the situation.

So I know that it is something that some people have said, "Wait a minute. What happened here?" But I have talked about this and written about it. And then, unfortunately, on a few occasions I was not as accurate as I have been in the past.

But I know too that, you know, being able to rely on my experience of having gone to Bosnia, gone to more than 80 countries, having represented the United States in so many different settings gives me a tremendous advantage going into this campaign, particularly against Senator McCain.

So I will either try to get more sleep, Tom, or, you know, have somebody who, you know, is there as a reminder to me. You know, you can go back for the past 15 months. We both have said things that, you know, turned out not to be accurate. You know, that happens when you're talking as much as we have talked.

But you know, I'm very sorry that I said it. And I have said that, you know, it just didn't jibe with what I had written about and knew to be the truth.

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She blamed it on the book, claimed she apologizes (guess that was a reference to her claim she misspoke because of lack of sleep), blamed it on lack of sleep...

Watch: Bosnia Sniper Fire - Hillary Clinton - Democratic Debate




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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:32 PM
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25. She came across very well,I haven't seen one supporter here cry that she was
asked that tough question.

But you know, I'm very sorry that I said it. And I have said that, you know, it just didn't jibe with what I had written about and knew to be the truth.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:02 AM
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27. Why would people who are in denial cry? n/t
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:32 AM
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26. "Chicken out"? At this point it makes about as much sense as Obama debating Richardson.
Eventually you Hillary supporters are going to get clobbered by basic math. We won't hold your math deficiency against you when we're back on the same team.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:30 PM
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20. penn wasn't fired. he was moved. she is a quizling too.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:13 AM
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28. "Richard Mellon Scaife?- His paper endorsed Obama." You are wrong:

'Vast right-wing conspiracy' leader's paper backs Clinton

HILADELPHIA - Could it be the "vast right wing conspiracy" is having second thoughts? Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton was endorsed Sunday by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, whose owner and publisher, billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, personally funded many of the investigations that led to President Clinton's impeachment in 1998.

It was one of a handful of endorsements the New York senator has received from Pennsylvania newspapers before the state's primary Tuesday. Most of the state's major papers have endorsed Barack Obama.

In its endorsement, Tribune-Review editors said Obama is too inexperienced to be president and that his recent comments about bitter voters living in small towns showed a lack of respect for middle-class values.

"In sharp contrast, Clinton is far more experienced in government — as an engaged first lady to a governor and a president, as a second-term senator in her own right," the paper said. "She has a real voting record on key issues. Agree with her or not, you at least know where she stands instead of being forced to wonder."

Clinton met with the Tribune-Review's editorial board, including Scaife, last month. Afterward, Scaife wrote an editorial titled "Hillary, Reassessed," declaring how impressed he had been by the former first lady.

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:10 PM
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8. More double standards and half truths
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:11 PM
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9. What are the half truths? n/t
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:14 PM
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10. These guys are too white to be scary. America's only afraid of Arabs and black preachers.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:22 PM
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18. Hillary Clinton Takes Cash From Recipients of Husband's Controversial Pardons

Pardon Me?

Hillary Clinton Takes Cash From Recipients of Husband's Controversial Pardons
By JAKE TAPPER

Nov. 15, 2007 —

Three recipients of controversial 11th-hour pardons issued by former President Bill Clinton in January 2001 have donated thousands of dollars to the presidential campaign of his wife, Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., according to campaign finance records examined by ABC News, in what some good government groups said created an appearance of impropriety.

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Pardonees Donate to Clinton

One of the pardonees who has become a donor to Sen. Clinton is David Herdlinger, a former prosecutor in Springdale, Ark., who, according to press accounts at the time of his pardon pleaded guilty in 1986 to mail fraud after taking bribes to reduce or drop charges against defendants charged with drunken driving offenses.

Now a life and business coach in Georgia, Herdlinger was pardoned by President Clinton in January 2001; he donated $1,000 to Sen. Clinton's presidential campaign in August.

Insurance agent Alfredo Regalado, who gave Hillary Clinton $2,000, was pardoned by her husband for failing to "report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States," according to the Department of Justice.

Allegedly Mishandled Government Secrets

John Deutch is a different case, having served as President Clinton's CIA director.

Pardoned by President Clinton for charges he had mishandled government secrets -- but before the Department of Justice could file the proper paperwork against him -- Deutch, now a professor at MIT, gave Sen. Clinton the maximum allowable donation, $2,300.

Neither Herdlinger nor Regalado nor Deutch could be reached for comment.

"This is another argument for restoring the presidential public financing system," said Common Cause's Mary Boyle. "Is there an appearance here that this is kind of a payback for the pardons? I'm sure it could look that way for some people. But they're exercising their free and perfectly legal right to give a campaign contribution."

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Hillary's campaign on Ayers:

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:46 PM
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22. There's this guy
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:56 PM
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29. It's simply amazing how some people embrace the BS talking points about Obama's links, but
squirm uncomfortably when Hillary's ties are mentioned. Why isn't raising questions about Hillary's extensive and highly questionable links considered, as Hillary and the media claim, raising hard question that must be answered?





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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:23 PM
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24. K & R
yes we can ! :kick:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:53 PM
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30. K&R
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:09 PM
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31. Amazing that Hillary supporters can denigrate Obama for his "connections"
to Wright, Ayers, and Rezko, but think she has been fully vetted on these yahoos. The disconnect is astounding.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:01 AM
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32. Ed and Louis
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 11:04 AM by ProSense
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33. Point of hypocrisy:
From the recent debate:

SENATOR CLINTON: Well, I think, in addition to the questions about Reverend Wright and what he said and when he said it, and for whatever reason he might have said these things, there were so many different variations on the explanations that we heard. And it is something that I think deserves further exploration, because clearly what we've got to figure out is how we're going to bring people together in a way that overcomes the anger, overcomes the divisiveness and whatever bitterness there may be out there.

It is clear that, as leaders, we have a choice who we associate with and who we apparently give some kind of seal of approval to. And I think that it wasn't only the specific remarks, but some of the relationships with Reverend Farrakhan, with giving the church bulletin over to the leader of Hamas to put a message in. You know, these are problems, and they raise questions in people's minds.

And so this is a legitimate area, as everything is when we run for office, for people to be exploring and trying to find answers.

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