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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:23 PM
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I sense a reverse-New Hampshire primary in PA...
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:24 PM by jenmito
It looks like before NH, where Hillary "found her voice" with that teary-eyed response in a diner, a day or so before the primary. And she ended up winning big time compared to what the polls said (which were taken BEFORE that moment). THIS time, polls are showing numbers before Obama's great "Whistle-stop Tour" as well as before the effect of the Hillary/ABC backfiring has set in. Zogby has Obama WINNING suddenly TODAY, and Rasmussen has him rising in PA, too. It's just a feeling. I had the same one about Hillary in NH (that she would win despite what the polls said).
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:27 PM
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1. PA can end it !
come on PA !!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:29 PM
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2. Yes they can!
:D
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:21 PM
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49. Yes, we can.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:39 PM
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16. I hope they can (though it will be over soon anyway)!!
I think a lot of voters who may have been on the fence are going to go for Obama if for no other reason than they want to see the Dems with their nominee, a luxury the GOP is certainly enjoying.

:dem:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:29 PM
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3. me too K&R
plz do the right thing PA
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:30 PM
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5. I was noticing the people in his PA crowds-older white people along with the younger people...
all with hope in their eyes.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:58 PM
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12. Yay for older white people!
:applause:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:45 AM
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17. BITTER white people!
:D
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:30 PM
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4. i like the sound of that
:)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:33 PM
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7. So do I.
:D
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:31 PM
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6. I have that feeling too
My heart says YES WE CAN but my head is telling me to be realistic. I am trying not to get my hopes up... but I still have HOPE!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:34 PM
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8. Yup...
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 10:35 PM by jenmito
Just like I had a bad feeling about TX and OH (even though he won TX with the delegate count) because a couple days before he was slipping due to the (false) NAFTA attacks. I have the opposite feeling this time.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:42 PM
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9. It is over no matter who wins..............
Obama in 2008!
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:46 PM
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10. Well, she still has a couple of days to do a crying bit or something, you know...
just sayin'...
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:46 AM
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19. She'll be on Larry King's show Monday night. It may happen then.
I wouldn't be surprised.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:54 PM
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11. I have that same feeling! n/t
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:15 PM
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15. Hey Darlin' !
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 11:16 PM by discerning christian
Are ya mad at me? You didn't reply to my post yesterday! (60% O....40% H.) Talk to me! YES WE CAN !!! sweetie!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :hi: :loveya: DC
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:58 PM
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13. PA, you can do it! We believe in you.
Even this guy is rooting for you......




.....just don't tell "you know who". :evilgrin:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:48 AM
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20. ...
:rofl: I bet you're right. Otherwise, he wouldn't be doing such a terrible job campaigning for her!
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:58 PM
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14. I'm calling grandma in Philly this weekend...she is 89!
gonna remind her to vote Obama...she votes in every election, and based on what she said at Christmas, I think it is an assured Obama vote...since I'm in Florida, its nice to at least have a vote for Obama - even in a very round about way:)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:49 AM
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21. That's great!
I wonder how many other older women are for Obama!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:58 PM
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25. Shouldn't granny be in FL and you in PA?
I KID! ;)
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:45 AM
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18. If he wins PA, I'll shit my pants.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:50 AM
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22. I'll hold you to that.
:hi:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:08 PM
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23. Bookmarked
:thumbsup:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:10 PM
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24. Same here.
:)
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:08 PM
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31. ditto.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:00 PM
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26. Don't be silly. Clinton is going to win by 12. Stop these false expectations.
You'll be let down on Tuesday.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:05 PM
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27. I know...
it's just a feeling I have and I want to go on record just in case I'm right. :D
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:08 PM
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29. yah..
same here lol
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:07 PM
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28. So you're a psychic? Or are you just silly too.
:silly:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:09 PM
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32. No. It's the number of undecideds in each PA poll. It ranges from 8% to 13%
and they usually break Clinton's way.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:12 PM
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34. Well, things change. I'm not overly invested in polls.
If it ends up being 12 points, I'll try to remember to congratulate you. :)
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:08 PM
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30. Her unexpected wins came from crying and yelling the couple of days before the primaries.
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 01:08 PM by Bensthename
She has to know that is her only chance. What fake emotion will she bring out these last hours before PA? Maybe a fake suicide attempt? Who knows.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:34 PM
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38. Exactly. That's why I knew she'd win. It was no surprise to ME.
I think she'll "become emotional" Monday night on Larry King Live.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:11 PM
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33. What Zogby poll shows Obama ahead? nt
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:12 PM
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35. its listed here..
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:13 PM
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36. IT LINKS TO...
The PPP Poll from the 16th
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:33 PM
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37. and that's really old. Obama isn't going to win PA.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:35 PM
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39. No...He isn't.
But it is surprising so many have the wrong poll results

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1485
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:47 PM
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40. Here ya go:
"Pollster John Zogby: "Okay, so let's play Confound the Pollsters. Obama, who polled a mere 40% yesterday had a good today at 46% to Clinton's 44%."

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1485
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:31 PM
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41. Sorry Sweetie.
Zogby has not released a poll that says anything of the sort.

In the PA Poll released by Zogby, the result is Clinton 46 - Obama 43.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:38 PM
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42. That was a quote by Zogby. And you're a sexist pig with your condescending names.
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 02:40 PM by jenmito
:hi:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:01 PM
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43. I asked for a link to the poll and you gave me a quote.
Not the same thing.

:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:09 PM
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44. Learn to comprehend what I wrote in my OP:
"Zogby has Obama WINNING suddenly TODAY,..." That doesn't say I had a poll of him showing that/
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:35 PM
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45. HAHA
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:38 PM
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46. I hope. Please mobilize PA Obama supporters! GOTV, Let's win this thing!!
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 04:44 PM
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47. Poll of my relatives in Harrisburg: Obama 4 / Clinton nada. Includes two first time voters,
demographics
25%asian
66.7% white
8.3% native american

50% 18-25
50% 45-55
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:19 PM
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48. I sense something here; my daughter is "disappointed" in Clinton and is
going to vote for Obama. That's a surprise. Reason? "She is too negative now".

A neighbor lady was definitely for Clinton for a long time. She confessed this morning that "if she wasn't so negative towards Obama" that she would vote for her, but now she said that she doesn't trust her anymore. (Isn't that something-Clinton's policies are not changed, being negative carries that much weight)

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