Isn't today THE DAY? When will Hillary post her campaign finances?

[PetraPooh]

So is she going to wait till one minute before midnight? Questions, questions; looking for answers, waiting, waiting, waiting. . . wondering what tales it will tell.

[Dr.Phool]

1. She's waiting for a bailout.

[PM7nj]

2. Obama's and McCain's aren't up either.

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/

Someone said they were actually due Friday, since according to the rules if the 20th is not on a business day, they must file the last business day before.

It is probably because the FEC is too damn slow.

[PetraPooh]

3. I was under the impression that Obama's were up on the 3rd or 4th of the month,

I'll go looking to see if I'm right?

[Zachstar]

4. Let us be fair here. Obama's are also not up.

Not everything is some kind of political ploy. Can we show a little bit of respect towards Senator Clinton?

[PetraPooh]

5. No, respect for her in general from me is not possible; and I was

under the impression that Obama's were up early in the month. I am a bit google-challenged and have not been able to confirm my impression or deny it. Still trying.

[Zachstar]

6. You dont have to try you can see the reports right here

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/

Edit: this is the month before

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/

[PetraPooh]

7. Thank you, I will go look.

[rocktivity]

8. They has until a second before midnight tonight

Don't rush them--Geez, you people are mean!

:eyes:
rocknation

[Aloha Spirit]

9. McCain just posted

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/C00430470.html#SUMMARY

[Aloha Spirit]

10. singed by a Joe Schmuckler, ha

[Aloha Spirit]

11. Wow, $3 mill in refunds to individual contributors?

[progressive_realist]

21. I think this is related to McCain's reneging on public financing

He is refunding donations so that he will be eligible for public financing in the GE.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hcoilzhWtvfWBl2MqCAEW8J3UQKgD9060KK80

McCain in March refunded donors about $3 million in contributions, most of it money he had received for the general election. The refunds set the stage for McCain to accept about $84 million in public funds for the fall campaign. Candidates who accept public financing cannot raise money from donors for the general election campaign.

McCain's biggest expense of the month was $3 million to Fidelity & Trust Bank to finish paying off a $4 million loan that had become the focus of a stalemate between McCain and the FEC. Campaign finance regulators want to make sure McCain did not use the promise of public financing in the primary to secure the loan. McCain was eligible for public financing in the primary, but his lawyers said they did not use that eligibility as collateral.

IIRC, he has asked those donors to instead give money to his legal defense fund to pay any fines that may arise from breaching campaign finance laws. So much for Mr. Campaign Finance Reform. :eyes:

[KansasVoter]

12. Isn't it due tomorrow, first business day after the 20th?

[PM7nj]

14. No, it is due first day before.

4 Notice that this filing deadline falls on a weekend or federal holiday. Filing deadlines are not extended when they fall on nonworking days. Accordingly, reports filed by methods other than Registered, Certified or Overnight Mail, or electronically, must be received by close of business on the last business day before the deadline.

http://www.fec.gov/info/report_dates.shtml#report_4

So it looks like they can still file today, but only if it is by mail or electronically. I don't know how the major campaigns due it.

[Aloha Spirit]

13. Kucinich just filed

[SoCalDem]

15. Today is the LORD's Day..

surely she will wait for a less religiously significant day to post crass things like MONEY..

and the Pope is still here :rofl:

There will be plenty of time to post stuff like that after she's gotten the nomination :rofl:

maybe Bill could have a townhall, and just read it to us all:)

[rocktivity]

16. Obama has posted

It's 10:30PM EST. Your financial disclosures have 88 minutes, Hillary!

:scared:
rocknation

[phiddle]

17. Barnburner for Obama:

6. Cash on Hand at BEGINNING of the Reporting Period `38,833,089.54
7. Total Receipts This Period ```````````````````````42,832,120.65
8. Subtotal (6 + 7) ```````````````````````````````81,665,210.19
9. Total Disbursements This Period ``````````````````30,591,210.20
10. Cash on Hand at CLOSE of the Reporting Period ````51,073,999.99



http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/C00431445.html

[PetraPooh]

19. He sure has some supporters, no doubt. Running a good campaign.

[madrchsod]

28. 51 million dollars.............

does that roll into the general election and/or can that be used to support the congress critters?

[phiddle]

33. Yes, and Yes (to both questions), I believe.

The sonofagun for Hillary is that she won't have much money to go forward on, even if she can spin some victory out of Tuesday's PA primary. by contrast, Obama's got a much better financial situation.
Of the general's 4 categories---resources, strategy, terrain and tactics----Obama has clear advantages in the first 3, and is at least equal in the tactics.

[rocktivity]

34. YOU FORGOT HIS DEBTS!!!

Obama's Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee: 0.00
Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee: 662,784.55

Clinton's Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee: 0.00
Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee: 10,321,562.87

McCain's Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee: 77,259.74
Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee: 707,041.90

:headbang:
rocknation

[PetraPooh]

18. 35 minutes left; it's 9:25 MT. Will she make it?

[chill_wind]

20. K&R. n/t

[lander]

22. Seven minutes, Mrs. Clinton. n/t

[TML]

23. tick, tock, tick, tock...

:evilgrin:

[quantass]

24. I wonder if she is willing to take some kind of FEC penalty

and just release her results after tuesday.

[rocktivity]

25. Two minutes to midnight!

Kill for gain or shoot to maim
But we dont need a reason
The golden goose is on the loose
And never out of season
Some blackened pride still burns inside
This shell of bloody treason
Heres my gun for a barrel of fun
For the love of living death.

(Chorus)
The killers breed or the demons seed,
The glamour, the fortune, the pain,
Go to war again, blood is freedoms stain,
But dont you pray for my soul anymore.
2 minutes to midnight
The hands that threaten doom.
2 minutes to midnight
To kill the unborn in the womb.

The blind men shout let the creatures out
Well show the unbelievers
The napalm screams of human flames
Of a prime time belsen feast...yeah!
As the reasons for the carnage cut their meat and lick the gravy,
We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies.

(Chorus)
The body bags and little rags of children torn in two
And the jellied brains of those who remain to put the finger right on you.
As the madmen play on words and make us all dance to their song,
To the tune of starving millions to make a better kind of gun.

(Chorus)
Midnight...all night...

--Iron Maiden

[PetraPooh]

26. TWO MINUTES AFTER AND NO FEC REPORT, uh oh.

[rocktivity]

31. Dupe, sorry n/t

n/t

[ORDem]

35. What's the penalty for not releasing? A "ticket"? nt

[TML]

27. Here it is!!!

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M3/C00431569.html

I think I'm out of OPs today. Someone do the deed.

[Bigleaf]

29. That's Februarys. Wrong month.

[TML]

30. Never mind

I jumped the gun. Sorry folks. My bad.

[rocktivity]

32. It won't be midnight in Hawaii for another four and half hours...

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[rocktivity]

36. WOOT, THERE IT IS!!!

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M4/

Obama's Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee: 0.00
Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee: 662,784.55

Clinton's Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee: 0.00
Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee: 10,321,562.87

McCain's Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee: 77,259.74
Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee: 707,041.90

:headbang:
rocknation