"Kitchen sink," "slash-and-burn," "throwing the dishes..."

[Writer]

I wonder how many more cute phrases Barack Obama will use to vilify Hillary Clinton's campaign?

If that's the case I wonder, then, what terms should Clinton use to describe Barack Obama's campaign? I suppose they're supposed to be: "Sunshine and Rainbows," "The My Little Pony Campaign," or perhaps he's only throwing "moondust and starlight?"

All the while, David Axelrod has been the Gargamel of the Whisper Campaign. Quite effective, if you ask me. A spin doctor par excellence.


All of this is a little too rich for my blood at the moment. I'm going to go outside and get high on life for a while.

~Writer Smurf~

[otohara]

1. I Believe Kitchen Sink

originally came from a Clinton staffer who said it "un-named of course" to a reporter.

Now who's cute?

[Shakespeare]

48. Correct - Clinton's campaign used it first.

That pretty much nullifies the argument in the OP.

[jackson_dem]

2. He said "throwing the china" today. You know how those women are!

:sarcasm:

[DawgHouse]

7. Yes, I heard that too.

[QC]

20. Especially those harridans! And when they are going through the change, watch out!

But no, there's nothing sexist here.

[jackson_dem]

28. Maybe Obama thinks she is "periodically down" again

[Yael]

37. The sink was full

:shrug:

[Skittles]

57. UPPITY WIMMIN WHO HAVE NO BUSINESS OUTSIDE THE KITCHEN

GET WITH THE PROGRAM, JACKSON

[tekisui]

3. She's already mocked him.

Clouds will open, celestial choir. Just words. Fairy Tail. Shame on Obama. Karl rove's playbook.On and on....

[jackson_dem]

5. None of that has sexist overtones like Obama's comments

[tekisui]

6. The OP didn't request sexist overtones.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

9. What do you think about "shuck and jive"?

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-uscuom115533466jan11,0,3011306.story?track=rss

[TheDoorbellRang]

12. You reveal your own sexism by calling this sexist

Since when are kitchen sinks, chinas, and buffets merely female?

In our household, both my husband and I picked 'em out, stocked 'em, and care for 'em.

Sexist!11!!1! :spray:

[jackson_dem]

Read the Political Brain. Obama knows what network he is activiting by such rhetoric

It is sexist the same way the Playboy ad with Harold Ford was racist. Both Corker and Obama know what the response from the targeted groups will be.

[Zachstar]

45. Targeted groups? Can you tone it down on your desperation?

[mckeown1128]

54. What network was Hillary activating when she kept saying

"a private fundraiser in (San Francisco) " in reference to the bitter remarks.


Two can play that game.

[JoFerret]

56. It's well focus grouped

that will be for sure.

That's the way of modern political campaigns.

And sexism works very well.

The Obama supporters need to take up KNITTING. As in knitting things together. Like coalitions to win.

[ErinBerin84]

13. Eh

This is just my opinion, which is probably biased since I support Obama...but if the situation had been reversed and Obama had yelled "Meet me in Ohio!", I think many would have perceived that as sexist towards Hillary. Or if Clinton had gone bowling and Obama made fun of it, (even though that was her little "April Fools day joke"), that would be perceived as sexist. Likewise I think that some of the racism charges are exaggerated (I think that Bill Clinton wasn't really referring to race when he made that stupid "stealing cars" reference, and I didn't even particularly think that the GOP-er who said "that boy doesn't need his hand on the button" was racist. Just stupid comments). I remember when Rick Lazio "invading Hillary's personal space" was perceived as sexist. Likewise, I call bullshit on the china reference being sexist, but that is just my own biased opinion.

[Window]

18. Corny. Sheesh

[Zachstar]

44. No you say they were sexist. You are desperate for ANYTHING to slow down Obama at this point.

In my view and likely right.

[pnwmom]

39. She didn't mock him in a racist or sexist way. n/t

[YDogg]

4. high? life?

[Writer]

25. Hehe, thanks.

I'm glad that someone in GDP still has a sense of humor.

(Although I have much, much better taste in beer. ;))

[YDogg]

38. hear, hear

:toast:

[Arugula Latte]

"Kitchen Sink" is from the Clinton campaign, FYI

[Starbucks Anarchist]

8. A Clinton aide first used "kitchen sink," another one said Obama "shucked and jived":

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004203740_clinton26.html

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-uscuom115533466jan11,0,3011306.story?track=rss

[DarienComp]

10. Remember when Clinton endorser Bob Johnson basically accused Obama of being a cokehead?

"We all know what he was doing in Chicago..."

[Starbucks Anarchist]

14. Oh, Bob "the estate tax is racist" Johnson?

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/08/estate-tax-bob-johnson/

Yep. ;)

[DarienComp]

16. How about when Wolfson said that Obama is the new Kenneth Starr?

Yeah, the Clinton campaign has been really treating Obama with kid gloves.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

17. Shame on you, DarienComp!

Meet me in Pennsylvania! :rofl:

[DarienComp]

19. Enough with the whoop-di-do speeches, Starbucks Anarchist!!

Meet me in Guam!!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

24. Meet me where the skies will open!

!Vaya con Dios!

[DarienComp]

29. "Ooh, I'm Starbucks Anarchist, I'm bilingual." Elitist snob.

Meet me at the bowling alley!

:toast:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

32. This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!

:rofl:

[DarienComp]

36. Shomer fucking shabbos.

:rofl:

[CalGator]

22. don't confuse them with facts

Let them rant with the ferocity and facts of a freeper.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

26. In fairness, the OP is a DU pal of mine.

We just disagree on this one issue. :P

[Writer]

33. Yup. On just this issue.

Because friendship is far, far more important than political disagreement.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

34. Agreed.

:hug:

[Radical Activist]

23. But that wasn't on purpose...as far as I know.

[pnwmom]

40. The shucked and jived comment was inexcusable -- and HRC did not say it.

Unfortunately, it was Obama himself who made the sexist china-throwing comment.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

42. Kitchen sink --> kitchen --> china.

Stop stretching so much.

[pnwmom]

46. Doesn't matter how he got there. Obama made a sexist attack, and he knew it.

He's too smart not to have known the connotations of his words.

[murielm99]

11. But he's running a clean campaign!

He said so!

[azmouse]

15. Poutrage.....

:eyes:

[Warren Stupidity]

21. Wow and a smurf reference too.

But you've already been pointed to the plain fact that the clinton campaign itself came up with the term 'kitchen sink strategy' to describe what they started to do after the defeat on super-duper-tuesday. Bill's surrogate attack on Obama this weekend is that he is a 'whiner', which fits right in with Imus's claim that Obama is a 'pussy'. Axelrod is supposed to be a spin doctor, that's his job.

[DemGa]

27. Obama/Axelrod operate as the mirror far-right

In-your-face hypocrisy evidenced by character smear. As low as it gets - all packaged in flash and pretty bows.

[Bensthename]

30. She has admitted to doing this.. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[pnwmom]

41. She's admitted to throwing china at him? Somehow I missed that. n/t

[Bensthename]

43. She admitted to the kitchen sink.. Uh oh, we now have a China-gate...

:scared:

[otohara]

31. I Always Thought Dems Had A Sense of Humor

he's taken her own staffers comment and turned it into something funny. Lighten up!

[stillcool]

35. kitchen sink belongs to the media..

via the Clinton Campaign. I've never heard either candidate say the other two. I myself like "Scorched Earth" between the "Fire walls".

[lostnotforgotten]

47. Hillary Voted For Bush's War - 'Nuff Said

She will never get my vote.

[boppers]

49. Throwing the lamp....

Throwing the bookbag....

The subliminal message, to somebody who's survived child abuse, is quite clear. Hillary may justify her abusive behavior, and rationalize it in various ways, but it's still abusive, whether it comes from Obama's mouth, or, more often, her own.

[MadBadger]

50. Actually, Kitchen sink was first reported by the Times from the Clinton campaign.

[AtomicKitten]

51. The "kitchen sink" reference originated from Hillary's mouth in this campaign.

Getting those tiny details straight really does make a difference in forming one's POV.

[guruoo]

52. Check your PMs, writer.

[guruoo]

53. K&R

[Guava Jelly]

55. I don't think the Clinton Campaign needs much help

They have done a smash up job eating themselves
She just hired the wrong people to run her campaign.
And now what was almost a done deal for her is now in its death throws.
:hi: my friend :D

[krkaufman]

58. Though your post has truthiness ...

... it lacks The Truth.

Hillary's campaign referred to their planned attack as their "kitchen sink" strategy, in announcing their plans to reporters.

[NJmaverick]

59. That's a pretty sick, ignore the horrible behavior of Clinton and comp

instead whine about people calling her on it

[mmonk]

60. I don't know being connected to radical preachers, terrorists,

and being really a closet Muslim who's wife hates Ameruca, he could come up with anything. :sarcasm:

[Spider Jerusalem]

61. For the love of God, could you just ONCE try posting something that isn't arrant nonsense?

The depths of your intellectual dishonhesty are amazing; it was Hillary Clinton who referred to it as the 'kitchen sink' strategy. So Obama can't use her own description against her?

And, tell me...has Obama endorsed John McCain as 'having passed the Commander-in-Cchief threshold', and said Hillary hasn't? Has he called Hillary 'unelectable'? Because she's said both of those things with respect to Obama. And when employed against another Democrat, who is far more likely to win the nomination, those ARE 'slash and burn', scorched-earth tactics.

I'm reminded of what Harry Truman said: 'I never give them hell; I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.' This seems to neatly summarise the disconnect from reality that many of Senator Clinton's supporters and the candidate herself exhibit when confronted with unpleasant yet self-evident truths.