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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:59 AM
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Breaking: Clinton Internal Polling Predicts (Atleast) 11 Point Margin of Victory
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 11:00 AM by malik flavors
CLINTON INTERNALS SHOW 11-POINT LEAD IN PA
Mon Apr 21 2008 11:10:14 ET

**Exclusive**

Controlled excitement is building inside of Clinton's inner circle as closely guarded internal polling shows the former first lady with an 11-point lead in Pennsylvania!

Clinton is polling near to nearly 2 to 1 over Obama in many regions of the state, a top insider explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.

A strong coalition of middle-class and religious voters has all but secured a Clinton victory Tuesday, with headline-making margins, the campaign believes.

"It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of how much," a senior campaign source said Monday morning.

When pressed if the dramatic internal polling numbers could somehow be flawed in a state as demographically complex as Pennsylvania, and with new voter registration surging to unseen levels, the campaign insider held firm.

"Senator Obama would be wise not to unpack his bags quite yet."

MORE

With less than 24 hours to go until the beginning of the end of primary season voting, Obama has handedly captured Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, but has failed to dominate suburban sprawl, the campaign's polling reveals.

An 11-point victory in Pennsylvania for Clinton would expand on margins scored in Ohio.

Clinton will quickly move to feverishly focus on Indiana starting Tuesday night, hoping to somehow convince superdelegates that she not only has superior stamina but has crucial swing state appeal.

Without superdelegate intervention, Clinton still faces impossible math to nomination.

Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashpa.htm
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:02 AM
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1. This must be a disappointment to them. They need much more than a mere 11% win.
They need 15% to simply stay alive, and 30% to make a dent in the delegate deficit.

I'm sorry.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:03 AM
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2. She was up by 20 in march. Anything less is a failure for her....
always has been.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:04 AM
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3. Drudge? Ugh. They love those rightwingers don't they? -eom
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:05 AM
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4. Where does it say "at least" ?
And Hillary is leading Obama in Pittsburgh. I am not sure if this story is accurate now.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:05 AM
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5. Turnout and the newly registered are the unknown factors here.
Interesting her campaign would leak this information; I am not sure how they can be so confident unless Big Eddie has 'assured' them of such a win.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:06 AM
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6. She's still feeding stuff to Drudge?
Why?

Also: Isn't anything less than 58/42 pretty much the same as a loss to her?
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MrCTLib Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:09 AM
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9. ....
Stop saying Hillary was up 20- 30 points. Those were numbers before Obama had a chance to campaign there and run ads 3-1.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:06 AM
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7. Where do you get the (at least) part? Seems like you like to exaggerate, like your candidate.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:08 AM
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8. Nice leak to try to divert attention away from Broke-Gate.
The MSM is focusing heavily on Clinton's lack of $ today. We'll see if they pick this up. This is clearly not what Obama's internal polling shows.

Oh, and by the way, considering the Obama campaign registered the bulk of these new voters, they're the only ones who can poll them.

Have a nice day, all. Off to assemble our teams for tomorrow!
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:10 AM
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10. Did Anyone Hear VP Vader mention Bill and Hillary ...
at the ceremony for the Pope's departure? I just happened to have left the TV on MSNBC heard him thank President and Senator Clinton as if they were at the ceremony. Then the woman on MSNBC made a remark that the Clinton's were not there and that is why they were not being shown on camera. Does anyone think that it was strange that he did that and now, Hillary seems to be bringing a large number of Catholic voters to the polls tomorrow? Just seems to be very strange that at an event that many Catholics would be viewing that Hillary got called out. OK..I'll put on my tin foil hat but at this point...nothing seems to be out of bounds for these people.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:11 AM
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11. If it's Drudge, you know it's gotta be true..
His journalistic skills and veracity are impeccable..

(grin)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:14 AM
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13. Well, he does have an inside informant in the Clinton campaign.
11 pts. won't put a dent in Obama's lead, so it doesn't really matter. Pennsylvania is one of Hillary's "home" states. If she doesn't win very big she's in trouble.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:14 AM
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12. Hmmm! Why do I suspect this is a setup story?
Is she going to steal PA?

:tinfoilhat:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:15 AM
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14. By at least 11%
that's what she needs. I consider anything less than a 15% victory to be a defeat.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:16 AM
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15. Yeah that's the only place there seems to be excitement for Hillary.
The inner circle of Clinton campaign. What is going on outside in the real world is where you see the excitement and growing momentum for Obama!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:20 AM
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16. In order to win the popular vote, and have a chance she needs to win by at least 25 points
Unless that happens, Hillary is out

It may not occur until after the primaries, but that is reality

Of course, if she does have that 25 point or more blow-out, then its up for grabs

The candidates better do the right thing after the primaries, and not take this to the convention undecided

WHICHEVER CANDIDATE IS LEADING WHEN THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER, I WANT THAT CANDIDATE

If that candidate who loses the TOTAL PRIMARIES, DOES NOT STEP DOWN, and takes it to the convention, and uses the power machine to win, the only thing THAT candidate will get from me is my vote in November, but no money or active support

Hopefully, it won't happen, the candidate leading the popular vote, and delegate vote will be the nominee without any convention fight, and in that case I will be active in all ways for that persons canidancy


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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:21 AM
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17. She's Using ARG?!?! Wow.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:38 PM
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18. Update: Looks like Obama's people are extremely clever...
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 12:38 PM by malik flavors
Wolfson on Drudge poll


With Drudge reporting an internal Clinton poll said to have her up 11, Wolfson responds on a conference call with reporters:

The campaign "categorically denies an obvious effort to raise our expectatons by somebody."

Wolfson and pollster Geoff Garin said the campaign didn't conduct a poll last night.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Wolfson_on_Drudge_poll.html
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:43 PM
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19. By leaking lies to Sludge?
Clever, clever liars.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:45 PM
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22. haha, you gotta admit that was a pretty nice move. Give a little credit where it's due.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:46 PM
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24. Your right! His campaign should lie more....oh wait
They already do that!
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:48 PM
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26. Haha, jeez. Quit being so ridiculous. We can all get a laugh out of this. Goodness people...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:50 PM
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27. It is ALMOST like he has leaked stuff to SLUDGE before, isn't it.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:52 PM
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28. I actually don't think this is an Obama stunt. I think Clinton's campaign is a MESS.
Drudge isn't going to take info from just anyone claiming to be a Clinton insider.

He's talking to someone he knows.

This came from the Clinton camp.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:43 PM
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20. Breaking - Clinton campaign releases disinformation before primary
In a desperate effort to escape all they have said about a 20+ point victory in the run-up to Tuesday, the Clinton campaign tries to confuse as many people as possible about her campaign failures in PA.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:44 PM
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21. Yup. I predict she will win by 12, if you take the last SUSA poll and give
her all the undecideds.

Hillary will win 56 - 44 in Pennsylvania.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:47 PM
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25. If you check my update I posted, the internals report was actually false.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:45 PM
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23. It's almost 100% if you go to a Hillary for President office....
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:53 PM
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29. My internals predict an unhappy transit of tainted clams.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:55 PM
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30. Raw Story .. Clinton camp 'categorically denies' Drudge poll rumor
On its way to an expected win in tomorrow's Pennsylvania primary, Hillary Clinton's campaign team is doing its best to tamp down lofty expectations that could starve her campaign of much-needed momentum if the political chattering class decides that a less-than-double-digit win isn't enough for her to realistically continue her presidential campaign.

To that end, campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson "categorically" denied a bright-red Drudge Report "flash" claiming that an internal poll showed Clinton with an 11-point lead in the Keystone State. He said the report did not come from anyone within the campaign and said that no such poll was conducted by the Clinton campaign, which could hardly afford to conduct a poll anyway as it struggles to keep up with Obama's financial juggernaut. (Obama raised twice as much as Clinton last month, and he is outspending her by a two-to-one margin on television ads in Pennsylvania.)

"We categorically deny" the report, Wolfson said during a campaign media conference call Monday. "Anybody that wants to follow up on this, I suggest they get a copy of the poll ... because there is no copy of the poll."

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Clinton_camp_categorically_denies_Drudge_poll_0421.html



I don't know which liar I'm suppose to believe?
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:21 PM
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32. They expect people to think that they didn't do any
internal polling yesterday... yeah right! :eyes:
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:08 PM
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31. It never worked well when Rocky actually expected to win easily
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 01:11 PM by GoesTo11
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:35 PM
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33. Oh No!! What happened...
to the 20+ goal post?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:43 PM
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34. And Without superdelegate intervention, Obama still faces impossible math to nomination.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:43 PM
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35. and yet Hillary is still in the dust..
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