I hope someone is watching the voting very closely. Hey all you vote machine

[rainy]

geeks, are you paying attention so you can inform us of the break-downs in numbers tomorrow? Will there be exit polls? What if they are off like in 2000, 2002 and 2004? Will we be able to catch the cheating this time? Who would cheat you may ask. Just ask all those huge corporate donors who have already threatened Poloci. Maybe Karl Rove is on their pay roll too.

[WA98070]

1. Who has most of the Pennsylvania Political endorsements?

[99th_Monkey]

2. Does anyone know the type of voting (machines?) being used in PA? I don't

Some are much more susceptible to being buggered than others.

[rainy]

3. I found this at Truth out:

Pennsylvania Sued Over Electronic Voting Machines
By Patrick Walters
The Associated Press

Tuesday 15 August 2006

Philadelphia - Voter advocates filed a lawsuit Tuesday seeking to stop Pennsylvania counties from using "paperless" electronic voting machines, saying that such systems leave no paper record that could be used in the event of a recount, audit or other problem.

The suit asks the state's Commonwealth Court to decertify machines used in 58 of Pennsylvania's 67 counties. The other counties use optical scanning systems, in which voters fill in bubbles on paper forms that are counted in scanning machines; the plaintiffs say such systems should be in use statewide.

"Whatever the initial promise may have been for electronic voting, we now know ... that they are simply not ready for prime time," said Lowell Finley, an attorney with the nonprofit group Voter Action, which has been involved in similar suits nationwide.

The lawsuit alleges that certifying paperless electronic voting machines violates the state's election code and constitution.

A similar lawsuit helped force New Mexico to use optical scan ballots earlier this year, Finley said. Other suits involving paper-based voting systems have been filed in Arizona, Colorado and California.

State officials say the voting machines in use have been carefully scrutinized, and that new electronic voting machines performed well for the most part in the May primary. Residents in all but one county cast ballots using either electronic touch-screens or optical-scan systems for the first time.

The systems have been certified and can reconstruct votes based on computer images, said Leslie Amoros, a spokeswoman for the Department of State.

The plaintiffs, however, claim votes have been lost several times because of computer malfunctions, including in Allegheny and Centre counties during the May primary and in Berks County in May 2005. Other problems could be going undetected, they add.

[nebula]

8. Only Diebold can save her now

that's why she's still in it.

Rendell and his machines to the rescue.

[99th_Monkey]

9. If that's the most recent article on the lawsuit, then it doesn't look too good, huh?

stillcool47 posted this map FYI

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&year=2008&state=Pennsylvania

[stillcool]

4. DRE's...no paper...

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&year=2008&state=Pennsylvania

[99th_Monkey]

7. Wow. Cool map. Hopefully those green areas are the Metro centers?

I'm sorry I don't know PA very well. but if the green (paper ballot) areas, tho smaller, are the
metro areas then it may not be as bad as it looks on the map.

Thanks for the info. :-)

[stillcool]

10. I don't either...

I lived there for a few years, but I'm clueless about counties.

[stillcool]

5. I was under the impression..

that in a close election anyone can fuck with the tabulation on DRE's that have no paper. Wouldn't it be funny if both sides played games?

[rainy]

6. No.