Hillary, War with Iran is No Laughing Matter- By Senator Gravel

[Ichingcarpenter]

Hillary, I'm glad to see you got a good laugh when I confronted you during last week's debate over your vote calling the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (IRG) a terrorist organization. The American public finally got to see your cavalier attitude toward our march to war. Your vote however is no laughing matter.

By labeling the IRG a terrorist organization, the Democratic-controlled congress has impeded our ability to negotiate with a huge portion of the Iranian government. The IRG is a 125,000-person organization with ties to every power base in Iran. The IRG is also admired by a vast potion of the Iranian people for its heroic stand against Saddam Hussein's invasion during the Iran-Iraq War. Mohammad Khatami, the former reformist president of Iran, warned the United States not to label the IRG a terrorist organization because doing so would preclude any diplomatic settlement of our differences.


While I'm sure your vote plays well with the hawks and military contractors who support your campaign, it is the height of irresponsibility. Like with Iraq in 2002, elements in our government have already decided to attack Iran and are now trying to "sell it." Last week, Congress gave the warmongers a big gift. (Note to Congressional Dems: You were elected to stop a war, not start a new one!)

Hillary, war with Iran will have devastating consequences for all Americans.

The Iranians are sure to respond with strikes at Americans at home and abroad. Imagine a dozen 9/11s. Is that something to laugh about?

The Iranian navy will intercept oil shipments through the Persian Gulf that fuel the European economies. Oil prices will skyrocket above $150 and the global economy will fall into a worldwide depression. Will you be amused when millions of Americans lose their jobs? >>>>>snip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-mike-gravel/hillary-war-with-iran-is_b_66505.html
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I just wanted remind you all again..............

[anonymous171]

1. Too bad Gravel left the party.

He was really smart.

[gateley]

2. I agree -

and called bullshit when he saw it.

And he did a Christmas spot with Travis and Jonathan -- how cool is that?

[EFerrari]

9. Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S2zkh6ZOGE

:hi:

[gateley]

21. I LOVE that video!

And, I've posted this a zillion times, but in case you haven't seen it, it's Gravel telling the story of how he was able to get the Pentagon Papers into the record. He tells it well, and it's great!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c5ks8hz5Ulg

He's a true patriot, and we owe him a debt of gratitude.

[EFerrari]

23. I love that story. I saw it on Amy's show.

He's really something. :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

3. Yeah, I even gave him a few bucks..The point is her laughter on inappropriate things

Laughter on getting a right wing endorsement that accused her of murder
and not condemning it..... geez

[gateley]

22. It's so very forced and transparent. And as you say,

so often inappropriate.

[Diamond Dog]

7. I wish Gravel had lasted longer than he did.

I don't really like him, and I think he's somewhat strange, but he would have made it a far more interesting primary season.

[msongs]

4. then why does Obama think military action against Iran is an on-the-table option? nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. Why does she laugh when she can't explain her actions?

The $800,000 question she laugh off? The endorsement from a right wing Facist?.

[burythehatchet]

11. its a CACKLE dammit

during the scaife topic on KO, I wanted to throw something at her face on the teevee

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. There should be a link to the cackle when Sen.Gravel confronted her

In the debate and she couldn't answer...The $800,000 question cackle and other instances

I see a great Video in the making!!!

[burythehatchet]

14. I can see it ...and I'm irritated

[MarjorieG]

13. You never take it off as an option, but diplomatic carrots and sticks. We don't want war.

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. Preemptive War is not an option...... It is a WAR CRIME

To label a government a terrorist when you are illegally occupying the one next door
is the height of hypocrisy

[Diamond Dog]

6. Genuine Progressives need to be prepared to bolt from Clinton at the drop of a dime.

The MoveOn fiasco shows how little the neo-liberal princess thinks of the progressive Democratic base. We must not make the mistake of defending a potential Clinton candidacy. As soon as she makes a move to go to war with Iran, we must be prepared to wage war against her at all cost.

Remember what we did to Johnson in the 60's. He was a Democrat. So is she. Neither were progressive.

[Ichingcarpenter]

8. Taking the right wing fascist newspaper endorsement

and laughing at it, because she couldn't explain it was disturbing.

The use of nuclear bombs scares the living shit out of me.

[Diamond Dog]

10. Do not contribute to her. Do not campaign for her. Vote for her, and that's it.

And the first time she rattles the proverbial saber (or Sabot), drop your shit, pick up a placard, and march.

[Muttocracy]

16. if this quote is right, she DID saber rattle and for that matter declare war on Iran.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5610534

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. She even did her nervous cackle unable to respond to Sen. Gravel n/t

[Cha]

20. bush was disturbing for many things but

his inappropriate giggles were at the top of the list.

[jwirr]

17. Nuclear war with anyone is no laughing matter. The fall out will kill us all.

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. Kennedy and Khrushchev were able to reach a agreement with detente

Negotiations and the only ones that were saber rattling was the Soviet Union.

Of course the Soviet Union had torture, political prisoners, gulags and an authoritarian press back then.

Seems the times have changed and so have the players.

[Diamond Dog]

18. Kick. This is important.

[roguevalley]

25. I voted for him when he was our senator. he has giant you know

whats. GO, MIKEY!

[uponit7771]

26. K&R