No questions for obama. so how are you to judge the man. well

[BenDavid]

here is my thoughts. Let's say it's been assumed for a year or 3 that your teen daughter was going to marry "Bob." But one day, she says she met a guy, Barack, she likes better than Bob and wants to marry him, so you ask her to invite her new friend over.

When you meet him, you notice he's a smooth talker, but he never really says anything. His career plans? "I"m going to get a great job!" What kind of job? "A good one, one that pays really well."
Let's say you ask him 20 questions and every answer is the same - optimistic, but vague. Wouldn't you want to know something more substantial, more concrete than, "I"m going to get a great job!" before you give your daughter to him in marriage?

I realize I'm the skunk at the picnic because I don't see what you see in Obama. And you all might be about to sign him up for a 4-year hitch with the guy - if we get lucky and win, and all we know about him is he's "inspiring" and makes people tingle when he talks, and he causes Chris Matthews to feel thrills up his leg when he fawns over the man.

Is it wrong to be careful before we turn the keys to the planet over to a new guy? I'm not big on major surprises that can't be changed for 4 years, how about you?

[Radical Activist]

1. Don't blame Obama for your lack of effort to learn about him.

The details are all there. He gives as many details in his speeches, website, and policy statements as any other candidate, despite this meme. Obama has more years in elected office than Hillary so there are many votes you can use to prove his progressive values.

[PseudoIntellect]

20. It's amazing this meme continues to go around.

Look at Hillary's policies on her website to Obama's policies on his website. They're comparable in detail and ideology.

We have two candidates who will do mostly the same things in office, except their personalities and backgrounds are completely different.

[JoFerret]

23. It goes around because it resonates.

What is a meme anyway and can we retire it along with the word "frame"?

[Bonobo]

2. You do not know Hillary. You only think you do. But...

Many were surprised to see her badmouth MoveOn, an organization she and her husband owe a lot to.

Many were surprised to see her use Republican talking points (Farrakhan, Ayers, Wright).

Many were surprised to hear her praise McCain over Obama.

Many were surprised to hear her self-serving lies about Bosnia.

Many were surprised to hear her lie about NAFTA, the IWR, the secret Mark Penn Colombia meeting.

Many were surprised to see her patronizing "heavens will open up" attack on Obama.

Etc, etc.

Most people have come to realize that they don't really know her.

Where does your confidence that you KNOW her come from anyway?

[berni_mccoy]

18. No. He Knows Her. He's just as wrong as she is.

[ScarletSniper]

25. Don't want to know her ...don't like her..would be nice if she just disappears

[stahbrett]

3. "Bob" is too busy ducking for cover in Bosnia from sniper fire

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. this skunk does see it either and niether do the PA skunks

[parasim]

5. Hmm... let's see...

Ok, I've known Bob for quite awhile, well, at least I think I knew him, mostly because of his best friend and confidant, Will, was someone that I knew pretty well. Will did a lot of pretty good things, but he also turned out to be someone I couldn't quite trust anymore, due to a couple of sneaky things he did. Although I didn't know that much about Bob himself, I figured he must be a decent fellow because of his relationship with Will.

So, now comes this new guy Barack. Handsome, self-confident, charismatic. Yeah, I kinda like this guy. But is he worth his salt, I wonder? Well, let's see, yeah, he did decide to forego a lucrative future on Wall Street to help some down and out folks in the South side of Chicago for awhile. and yeah, he is very well liked and can seem to get a lot of people who normally wouldn't have anything to do with each other, to agree on some things. Hmm, yeah, I do really like this guy.

But what about Bob? Well, hmmm, he kind of said a few things that weren't quite true, building himself up as someone who wasn't quite what he said he was. Told some extravagant story that was not in the least bit true, said one thing to one group and something completely different to another... Hmmm... is he really trustworthy?

Nah, I'll go with Barack if indeed my daughter really loves him.

I mean, after say 4 years, she changes her mind about him, she can always get a divorce.

[grasswire]

9. flawed

It would only be a parallel if your daughter's beau had the power to blow up the world literally and figuratively. Look what happened in just four years with W.

[parasim]

11. Yeah, well, after "Bob" talking about "obliterating" Iran even before the 4 years start...

I think I'll take my chances with the new guy.

[cliffordu]

6. Meds, Benny, Meds!!!!

[Tunkamerica]

7. let your daughter GIVE herself to whomever she wishes

or isn't she smart enough to make up her own mind?

[quakerboy]

8. Actually, I probably

won't be giving away my daughter, seeing as she is a human being, and therefore she has ownership of herself. And I would hope to have raised a daughter who would make decisions that I would trust. But thanks for that little bit of old-school patriarchy there.

As to the rest, perhaps you should be calling ABC to complain then. The rest of us wanted questions, but last time I looked it was your compatriots here who were loving the insubstantial questions and defending the lack of deeper questions in the most recent debate.

And, if you want to know more.. go read. Its there. But the truth, most likely, is that you are not interested. It has nothing to do with Obama's qualifications or plans. And we all know it. But you go on with your hollow innuendo.

I'm not big on going forward with a Lose lose plan. Even a surprise is better than assured loss. At the end of the day, and no matter what happens tomorrow, the better candidate is still ahead.

[AX10]

10. K & R

[Cali_Democrat]

12. You just like Clinton because you know she is a Neocon lackey

You know she will attack and obliterate Iran and you love it. You know all about her penchant for "massive retaliation" and you love it. You were giddy about Hillary's bellicose language in the debate. You know Obama isn't beholden to the same interests and it frightens you. Don't take your insecurities out on Obama.

[mmonk]

13. Type casting him as a radical Islamic black man tied to terrorism isn't

asking him questions, it's an excercise in bigotry no person should go through. And yes, if one makes weak willy nilly connections made on rightwing hate propaganda networks in a nation that has lost its mind and say the problem is him, you, not him, have a problem.

[Cant trust em]

14. I find it hard that anyone who posts on this board as much as you do doesn't know Obama's positions

You must be clearly avoiding reading posts that are detailed. I, on the other hand, know many of Clinton's proposals.

[barb162]

15. I agree with you.

He's untested, inexperienced, and he has nothing to back himself up as a sponsor of change or unity, etc. I do take exception to your comment that he's inspiring. I find nothing inspiring about him.

[bpeale]

36. he inspires me to turn off the TV. that's what he inspires me to do.

[ginnyinWI]

16. Just do what I did-- READ HIS BOOKS.

Then his speeches will mean something to you. Then you'll know his values and where he's coming from.
He has not just dropped down from Mars. He's got a record and you can learn about him if you dig a little harder.

He'll make a far better president than Hillary would have. She is not leadership material. She's a legislator--has the deliberative mind of a legislator-- and should keep on doing that.

[jackson_dem]

19. His books are vague (centrist) Dem boilerplate

[ginnyinWI]

32. you have not read them then.

You might have paged through Audacity at the bookstore.

Of the two remaining candidates, HRC is the centrist one. What really upsets me about her is her willingness to pander to the Right to try to gain a few votes. And she panders to women to try to gain theirs. She'll say anything to get a vote, and that's why her integrity is shot.

[bpeale]

35. i have read his books. i still don't trust him with my vote,

so i guess i won't be trusting him with the united states of america either come election day.

[TLM]

17. So did you miss the last 20 debates?

"I realize I'm the skunk at the picnic because I don't see what you see in Obama."


No, it is because you're spraying your stink on anything you don;t like or that scares you... but that's what skunks do.

Can't blame a foul little stink machine for being a foul little stink machine... that's all it knows how to do.

[bowens43]

21. Your post is typical hillary supporter nonsense.

There have deen over 20 debates and dozens of speeches a couple of books etc. You been living in a cave?

[Warren Stupidity]

22. 21 debates later

no questions? What the heck are you smoking?

[H2O Man]

24. "Imagine your daughter

is going to marry a black man!" How fucking pathetic.

[endarkenment]

27. An essay that starts "well here is my thoughts"

can generally be dismissed as not well thought out at all.

[cali]

38. yep. that's it in a nutshell.

The OP has been quite clear on just what she really is.

[xchrom]

26. another skunk in the NObamanation camp here. nt

[IsItJustMe]

28. I guess I would say there is a thin line between being careful or paranoid.

[annie1]

29. He is God to them, and this is why he should not be judged.

[ProSense]

30. Spewing BS doesn't make it so. The problem is not Obama, it's Hillary and her lies and

despicable campaign tactics.

Do you actually believe it's okay for her to question Obama's patriotism and claim he has ties to terrorists?

After all her innuendo about Obama and Farrakhan, will she denounce and reject Ed Rendell for praising Farrakhan?

[maximusveritas]

31. He's more specific than most of his opponents were

The only reason people pick on him for that is because of his race and age. If not for that, it wouldn't even be brought up. Your boyfriend example is a good one. I'm betting you are much harder on Barack than Bob.

[SeaLyons]

33. I agree with you...

He's not elected YET. Keep the faith!

Go Hillary!!

[bpeale]

34. i agree with you except for one point...

i don't trust obama. i wouldn't trust him with anything i own & definitely do not trust him with my vote.

[cali]

37. remember your OP comparing losing your virginity to supporting Hillary?

I do. This is almost as pathetic.