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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:18 PM
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When Hillary crushes Obama tonight you will start to hear calls for Obama to exit....
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM by Greenwood
Obama, for all his talk, has way too much baggage. And, it will only get worse.

If we REALLY want to finally WIN the White House we better get behind Hillary and do it fast. After tonight I would hope that all sane people would take steps to get Obama to see the writing on the wall.

If Obama fights this thing you are going to see complete bedlam in Colorado--mark my words.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM
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1. you're entitled to your opinion
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:02 PM
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55. no matter how misinformed it is. n/t
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM
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2. There are two "L"'s in "Hillary"
If you're going to shill for a candidate, at least spell her name right.
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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM
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10. My computer has a sticking problem...
Got it fixed.
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Astrad Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:50 PM
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47. Didn't stick on "wall".
:)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:08 PM
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72. If it were fixed, you'd be spelling it "Hilliar".
NT!

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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM
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3. Does he have baggage or is he an unknown quantity?
It seems to be both.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:22 PM
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This primary is like the NBA draft
There's a kid (Obama) who has all of the talent and size to be a superstar. He could change the game, but he could also be a total bust. There's another player (Clinton) who has a solid all around game and has been to the final four. That player will be a solid player in the NBA, but won't radically change the game as we know it.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM
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4. Your opinion
Mine's different. Even if she wins PA HE LEADS IN EVERY CATEGORY!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM
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5. Doesn't she needs like 110% of the vote tonight
to TIE him in pledged delegates?
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:33 PM
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28. More like 1,500%

Hillary picked up +9 delegates in Ohio

meaning she would need to win 15 more Ohios just to catch up to Obama.

9 x 15 = 135.



a mathematical impossibility.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:19 PM
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6. No matter what the final numbers Obama will be in FIRST
So why would anyone call on him to quit?!?!?!?!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM
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7. wow
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM
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8. ...
:rofl:
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM
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9. Surrender
Said the Germans as Berlin was surrounded

This is the battle of the bulge nothing more.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM
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11. Goawaybama!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:02 PM
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68. go away, why? He's winning. Your candidate can stay and shame
and embarrass herself as long as she wants but she's gone. BUH-BYE!
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:20 PM
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12. Hillary should have exited after the Patomac primaries.
It was clear back then that she was going to lose.
No sane person thinks a woman who is incapable of getting above 50% in any general election poll is capable of winning. People just don't like her and she can never win.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:42 PM
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41. I give her more space..
Wisconsin was really the end for her. It was her last chance to turn things around delegate-wise.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:45 PM
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44. If Hillary Were A Man In The Same Position She Is In (Behind & Losing).......
a man would have done the gentlemanly thing and dropped out of the race.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:08 PM
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59. no
I think a certain "I" senator from CT would have stayed in the race too, and he is a man.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:21 PM
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13. Another here today......
..... gone tomorrow poster. :eyes:

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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:34 PM
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31. Ah Shit Why Can't He Be A Gone TODAY Poster?
:silly:
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:21 PM
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14. New Gallup Poll today... Dems nationwide Obama 50, HRC 40...
so what in the HELL are you talking about?????
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Diamond Dog Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:21 PM
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Bring it on.
I'd be happy to crack skulls like it was 1931 Berlin.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:21 PM
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15. Bookmarked.
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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:21 PM
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16. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, you're funny. You should go into stand-up. Really.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:21 PM
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17. ....
:rofl:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:22 PM
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18. Hillary is not going to crush Obama nor vice versa.
There are already complaints about the voting machines. I have a feeling there will be no clear winner tonight either.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:33 PM
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77. It looks like I was right. "Too close to call". n/t
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:22 PM
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19. At least try to give the illusion that you're making sense, ya know?
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:22 PM
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20. Hillary doesn't have baggage
she has a fleet full of 18-wheelers filled to the brim with trash & garbage and false bravado. No matter HOW PA turns out, she needs to pack up her 18-wheelers and go home.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:22 PM
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21. Why should he get out of the race? he's won 30 contests so far and if Hill wins tonight
she will have 15, so he has a 2-1 lead in wins and is ahead (even with a Hill victory) pledged delegates and the popular vote. And in two weeks he's going to demolish Hill in North Carolina and possibly win Indiana. If he wins both of those states the call for HILLARY to get out of the race will be very loud.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:29 PM
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22. I'm sure Joe Scarborough, Brit Hume, Byron York,
Pat Buchanan, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, William Safire, Robert Novak, Bill Kristol, Laura Ingram, Bill O'Reilly and Karl Rove all agree with you.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:00 PM
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54. Don't forget James Carville and Taylor Marsh
:rofl:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:29 PM
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23. Are you kidding? They'll blame voter fraud.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:40 PM
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38. You do know that "voter fraud" is a RW meme?
The correct term is "electoral fraud" - because it is not the voters who are cheating, it is the DRE machines and the compilers that are cheating, as programmed by their Republican owners.

But you know that already, right?

Right?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:44 PM
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43. No, I really didn't know that. Thanks for the education there. I just remember that term
being used here after Clinton won New Hampshire.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:10 PM
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61. You are right and I think it's time
to stop talking about the "stolen elections" of 2000 and 2004. The truth is Bush won by cheating and that's how it should be framed as the elections that Bush won by cheating.
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Old Vet Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:31 PM
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24. Crushed?
Mr Greenwood-Why would the person leading, And still would be leading with a loss,Quit?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:31 PM
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25. She will most likely get
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 02:35 PM by MattBaggins
at best a plus 9 delegate boost to Obama's 160 delegate lead. Is that crushing him?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:34 PM
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Good point. Obama benefits in almost every state from gerrymandering
We should adopt a "one person, one vote" principle. One district in PA that will go 70-91% for Obama has 9 delegates while some pro-Clinton districts have just 3.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:43 PM
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42. And why would some Democratic districts be for Obama, and
other Democratic districts be for Hillary?

C'mon, you can say it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:32 PM
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26. Poor baby. Don't worry, it won't hurt too badly when she steps down.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:32 PM
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27. Yes...Republicans will begin calls for Obama to exit
so that their chosen Democratic candidate can proceed into their fire.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:33 PM
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29. More states, delegates, and pop. vote, and Obama should exit? Is this a late April fools joke?
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chemenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:34 PM
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30. Oh, and I suppose HilLIARy has no baggage???
And why haven't these "sane" people you're referring to convinced HilLIARy to throw in the towel instead of prolonging this knockdown, drag-out. The polls show that the people prefer Obama by 10%.

I swear ... you HilLIARy supporters are really shovelling the bullshit so fast and furiously, trying to bury Obama supporters in it, that you are totally out of touct with reality.

Don't bet on HilLIARy crushing Obama tonight.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:34 PM
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32. If she doesn't win by MORE than 20 points, she is toast.
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GDAEx2 Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:35 PM
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33. Another Post and Run Agitator
n/t
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:35 PM
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34. Hilalry has to win 64% in EVERY remaing primary to win
She can win PA by a landslide and she will still lose.
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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:36 PM
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35. The SD's will realize Obama can't win the GE!!!
What do some people NOT understand?

WE WANT TO FREAKIN' WIN.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:40 PM
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37. The SDs know what you dont
That Hillary ALWAYS polls below McCain in GE polls and hillary has a giant negative base. Obama is the only of the two that can beat McCain. If you want to win, get on the side of right, not on the right side.
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csorman Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:59 PM
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53. What are you, like, eight?
Wait, that is an insult to eight-year olds. At least they know basic math.

Get your frickin' head out of the sand. I see no scenario in which Obama drops out of this race after PA, after IN, NC, etc. etc. NONE.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:13 PM
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75. Your wishful thinking is adorable.
There's no Santa either, kid.

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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:38 PM
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36. HA
you must be high. it doesnt matter if she wins PA, she cant catch up.

And this isnt going to the convention, the superdelegates will decide this in Obama's favor and it will all be over.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:40 PM
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39. If Obama has baggage, Hillary has the entire cargo section of the plane
The GOP has their smear machine loaded for bear if HRC were to get the nomination. I'll stick with Obama, thank you.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:41 PM
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40. In The Year Two Thousand.... In The Year two Thousand........
Hillary Clinton after losing the Democratic nomination for president to Barack Obama - quits the senate and opens a chain of luggage stores called "I've Got Baggage".
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:45 PM
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45. Yeah, we don't want no stinkin' wimpy guy.
We want Wonder Clinton on our side, a woman so tough she'll nuke Iran if they so much as look at Israel the wrong way. She'll do us proud and continue our seemingly neverending war on peace. Find out where Bill's investments are so I can buy in early.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:46 PM
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46. Probably ...
But it will be a joke.

Obama has crushed Hillary in numerous states. Each state represents a region and that's about it.

She crushed him Arkansas and hasn't seen those kind of numbers since.

She'll probably see those numbers again in Kentucky and she might even see them tonight, but ...

Get ready for a huge smack down from Obama on Hillary in N.C. and Oregon.

That's all he needs to reach 50%+1.

You might not like it, but it's true.

He can actually afford to do dismal in PA and is basically expected to do so.

His efforts there were to keep Hillary from doing to him what he did to Hillary in Hawaii.

Bottomline: Hillary is expected to smash Obama in PA, KY, W.V., and P.R.

The only thing that remains to be seen is by how much.

For every one of those states that Obama can keep his loss under 10 he's made a H-U-G-E victory.

Even when Hillary wins, Obama is still getting delegates ... the drip, drip, drip continues.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:50 PM
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48. HAHA its opposite day! here's a picture of your candidate
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:52 PM
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49. It doesn't look like Hillary will crush Obama. I hope you're not too disappointed....
....I know this kind of talk is expected on election day, but you have to admit that the likelihood of Hillary crushing Obama is very low.

I hope you are looking on to the future, and preparing for when this primary is over.

I already have pages of material on McCain to uplaod to my website when the primary is over.

Anyway, I hope you're not too disappointed if she doesn't. Have a couple of beers, and look towards tomorrow.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:52 PM
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50. aaand I'm PROUD 2 BE AMURKIIIIIIN!!!!
You know the rest...
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:52 PM
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51. I like the way you think, Greenwood!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:03 PM
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56. you give him/her too much credit
No thinking in evidence in the OP that I can see.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:21 PM
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63. Just having a friendly chat with my Hillary friend.
Thank you very much.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 02:52 PM
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52. why would you?
winning pa isn't going to change anything for hillary. She will still be losing by insurmountable Numbers.

I don't know why you hillbots seem to think that the Pa primary is the only one that counts.
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:03 PM
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57. she can't catch him even with 20 point wins in the next 7 races., Why would he drop out?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:06 PM
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58. 31 to 15
And even if Hillary makes it 31 to 16 tonight
(with the marginal increase in delegates)
she's got a loooong way to go to just tie it up.
Some math types say it's impossible.
Others just don't get it at all.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:08 PM
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60. Bedlam in CO is preferable to putting Hillary's sad joke of a campaign
up against the GOP in the fall.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:26 PM
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65. There is Chaos Canyon is Colorado but no Bedlam Colorado
I think the OP is confused.





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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:12 PM
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62. I spoke a bunch of republicans the last 2 weeks in FL; about 20 or so and
I hate to break this to you:

They ALL like what Obama has to say, and they HATE the Clintons called them lying trash and some names that surprised me. About 1/2 said they would not vote for McCain UNLESS Hillary is the nominee.

Hillary is has more baggage than you know.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:22 PM
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64. Why would the frontrunner possibly exit?
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ksquire Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:28 PM
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66. LOL troll. nt.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:32 PM
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67. Obama has "too much baggage"??? HAHHAHAHA How old are you? too funny
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ScarletSniper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:03 PM
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69. Did you hear..the polls just closed and its too close to call
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:05 PM
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70. The United States of PA. Let them Choose!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:07 PM
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71. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:09 PM by Zhade
Wait, I should address you post...

...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

You're DREAMING. If she wins (likely), it'll be about 15% less than she was expected to a few weeks ago.

She's still toast.

Recommended to make you eat your words later.

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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:09 PM
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73. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Have you seen the exit polls? er no.

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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:11 PM
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74. She lost already.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:25 PM
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76. Gee thanks for weighing in..
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:25 PM by SoCalDem
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:40 PM
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78. Are you serious?
He's ahead in delegates, popular votes, and states won. Please go back to your sandbox.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:41 PM
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79. Step away from the crack pipe.
It's bad for you.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:52 PM
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80. Wonderful sarcasm. Hill's gotta go, and this will seal it.
Out of ideas. Out of morals. Out of money. Say buh bye, Hilly!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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81. Perfect call, Greenwood! The sharks are already circling
And Hillary is jumping them!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:08 PM
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82. his supporters have already decided he 'wins' no matter what happens
if he wins by so much as a fraction of a percentage point he's a winner

if he loses by a point or a dozen he's a winner

if he loses by 20 points hillary cheated!


if that doesn't prove the 'cult' meme i don't know what does


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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:10 PM
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83. Ten Things to Remember on Tuesday Night
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:20 PM
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84. So you recommend that the person with the fewest votes be nominated?
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