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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:23 PM
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"She Lies"
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 03:31 PM by Stephanie


From WaPo.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/21/AR2008042102553.html

Clinton in the Wilderness
By Richard Cohen
Tuesday, April 22,

---snip---

But she has gone too far -- too much disturbing stuff, some of it shocking in its coarseness. For instance, she added the coy "as far as I know" to her "60 Minutes" statement that Obama is not a Muslim. More important, she offered a weak and disingenuous defense of her Senate vote in support of going to war in Iraq. But more recently came her stunning Moses Moment, that polygraph buster about being under sniper fire in Bosnia. It was a defining time in her campaign, not because she exaggerated or lied -- call it what you want -- but because the statement was hurled into a gale of contrary evidence, including eyewitnesses and video: a serene welcoming ceremony, complete with the requisite young girl bestowing the requisite gift. No snipers. No avoiding the obvious, either: Sometimes Hillary Clinton just can't help herself.

The story was nuts -- and Clinton herself has been at a loss to explain it. But for many voters, it encapsulated their suspicion, their anxiety, their hesitation about Clinton: She lies. The consequences for her were ruinous. In a Post-ABC Newspoll, only 39 percent of voters said they consider Clinton honest and trustworthy. This is a damning indictment.

***

But with Clinton, it's a different story. She planted her foot in the unforgiving pitch of self-caricature. Now, about 60 percent of the electorate doubts her honesty. The image has hardened. She wants to become president so badly that she has made the goal more important than how she gets there -- and now she has rendered herself incapable of doing an essential part of the job. Her plight is virtually biblical. Her own Jordan is too wide to cross.










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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:25 PM
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1. got a working link?
k&r
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:26 PM
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2. I think WaPo requires registration -
let me see if i can find it posted elsewhere.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:28 PM
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3. Not someone I would reference...
This column was written by someone who characterized the prosecution of "Scooter" Libby as politically motivated. He also criticized Stephen Colbert's 2006 Correspondent's Dinner performance.

He also said the use of force in Iraq could be "therapeutic" after the events of 9/11.

And I love this one...

"...the evidence Colin Powell presented to the United Nations — some of it circumstantial, some of it absolutely bone-chilling in its detail — had to prove to anyone that Iraq not only hasn't accounted for its weapons of mass destruction but without a doubt still retains them. Only a fool — or possibly a Frenchman — could conclude otherwise"


Yeah...Richard Cohen is someone whose opinions I want to shout from the mountain tops.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:33 PM
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5. I guess if the Clinton Camp can send around articles by Newt Gingrich, we can read this guy.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:34 PM
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6. I never talked about the Clinton Camp. I only said that this guy has some credibility problems.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 03:34 PM by prodn2000
Ask Peter Jenning's wife.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:37 PM
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9. Well he's correct in this case.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:54 PM
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13. Enemy of my enemy...? nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:55 PM
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14. In your opinion. n/t
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:09 PM
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19. Whatever works.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:29 PM
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4. William Huang, is that you?
:rofl:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:34 PM
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7. she sure does!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:36 PM
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8. Gawd help me, but
I agree with Richard Cohen! :banghead:
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:48 PM
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10. Richard Cohen's article
passes the "truthiness" test!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:50 PM
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11. K/R.
:kick:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:52 PM
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12. She can go back and do some soul searching and find a true character she likes
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 03:59 PM
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15. It's scary that Clintophobes think everyone lives in their delusional Bizarro World.
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 04:00 PM by Perry Logan
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:01 PM
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16. It's scary that Bots think everyone lives in their Kool-Aid-induced world.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:11 AM
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20. Please don't use the word "delusional" or "Bizarro World"
Given your demeanor on that horrible cable access show you are always flodding, it causes everyone's irony meters to explode.

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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:02 PM
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17. Comparing Hillary Clinton to Moses? Whatta stretch.........
Moses may not have made it to the promised land but he did lead the Israelites out of slavery and give them the laws under which they should live. Isn't that what really counted?
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:05 PM
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18. Sooooo, Hillary supporters accept lying as a fact of politics. Unless it is someone besides ...
a Clinton supporter.
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