Clinton voters are under 50K without college educations!!!!!!

[styersc]

"There's a reason why Clinton voters are under 50K without college educations."

This is the response I got from the Obama supporter Blondbostonian on a thread on this forum. If Obama wins this nomination but fails to keep "traditional" blue collar voters, this condescension should explain why. Not racism, not fear of change or lack of idealism. Simply- there are lots of us sick of the elitism and smugness.

(Posted by a lifetime Democrat with an MA degree and a 25 year career in a scientific field).

[DJ13]

1. My income is under $50,000 and I have no degree

You couldnt pay me to vote for another corporate owned candidate like Clinton.

[Lilith Velkor]

30. I'm unemployed

You could pay me to vote for a charlatan like Obama, but it would be far more expensive than it would have been if you hadn't talked down to me.

[PatGund]

43. I'm unemployed....

.....and left college a year before I could complete my degree.

I'd rather vote for Sen. Obama than Sen. Clinton

[AZBlue]

54. Took the words right out of my mouth.

I'm identical scholastically, financially and politically.

[jsamuel]

2. People are letting their stereotypes get the best of them.

(Posted by a lifetime Democrat working on MA degree)

[ingac70]

3. Same type of folks vote for Reagan....

then wanted to whine when the jobs went away.

I make less than 50k and didn't finish college and I wish my blue collar brethren would get their heads out of their ass!

GOBAMA!

[Diamond Dog]

4. Yeah, having a college degree is pretty l33t.

I'm a high school dropout and I support Obama. Go figure.

[Bucky]

40. Shit, you're one of them high school drop out elitists!!

No wonder you're supporting one those black "child of a single mother and an immigrant father who just paid off his college loans" elitists! Grrrrr. Next time your limo pulls up along side me... no fucking Grey Poupon for you!

[ecstatic]

5. Thanks for the elitist disclaimer

because we all were very concerned about your degree and career. :eyes: What a hypocrite!

[Occam Bandage]

7. We're sick of elitism! Also I am very wealthy and successful.

[ingac70]

15. lol.

:thumbsup:

[Occam Bandage]

6. Calling out other DUers and starting new threads to continue arguments in other threads

are both against the DU rules.

[TexasLady]

8. semester of college with five kids all at home

WAY under 50 grand..

Obama is the one for me!!

[Jamastiene]

9. That really annoys me too.

Some people live in areas where cannot make $50k or more. A lot of us do have degrees though. The snobbishness is a real turnoff.

[2rth2pwr]

10. The Obama elitism is oozing its way down the campaign.

[Occam Bandage]

18. Given Hillary's latest round of Iran blunders, I think I'm gonna turn to GYWO for this:

"If elitist means not the dumbest motherfucker in the room, then call me elitist."

[nancyr]

11. Pretty lame.

That's a ridiculous assumption, no matter who made it.

[Kindigger]

12. I've been wondering about that elitism stuff...

ever since the Iowa caucus. There were only four of us in the Biden group, and the Hillary bunch were trying to get us to join their group. Those in the group included a female ex-secretary of state, our male county attorney, and every attorney in town.

Just makes me shake my head in "confusement".

[DS1]

13. Part of the reason this forum is a pile shit is everyone is so quick to attribute

what one idiot says with 50% of the people posting here.

[GCP]

50. Nailed it!

:thumbsup: (Your Dad would be proud!)

[sandnsea]

14. It isn't helpful

But I don't understand why lower income people vote for her, I'm sure not. I think they believe that her mandate is a promise of healthcare, when all it is is a promise of another monthly bill.

[bajamary]

16. oh, gee just a bit too elitist for moi

Wow, Blondbostonian said "There's a reason why Clinton voters are under 50K without college educations."

What a telling comment. Do you think the moniker is real "Blondebostonian"?

Maybe I should call myself "Usedtobearedheadfromwaukegan,il" I guess it's not quite as "sexy".

Anyway, what an ignorant remark, quite elitist and not very accurate.

[rodeodance]

17. Did anyone ask how many "college educations" were needed?

[Deep13]

19. Right, those folks can't afford to throw the dice on someone with no experience.

If things get worse for those voters, it will not just be more expensive to fuel the Beamer. It will be catastrophic. They are not impressed with Obama because they just can't afford to take the risk. They don't have the luxury to vote on the basis of inspiration or whatever.

[lumberjack_jeff]

20. I think that the upper levels of the Obama campaign

have tried to keep this undercurrent of "the cool kids club" under wraps, but they need to try harder.

I think that the "clinging to their guns and religion" comments would have been a non-issue were it not for the smug superiority on display by some of his more urbane supporters.

The "Obama is the party of college educated people, Hillary is the party of ignorant white fucks" contingent has caused what would otherwise be dismissed to ring true.

[LisaM]

25. Yeah, tell me about it. I am college educated

I make over 50K and I'm originally from a small town. And I support Hillary!

When Obama made those remarks, it gave me a real window into why his appeal hasn't reached me. I honestly think that Obama simply doesn't "get" small towns - their differences, their similarities, what holds them together, and, most especially, their pride. Yeah, so some people in my town didn't go to college. They still put together good lives and have been valuable citizens - no matter WHICH party they belong to.

[nichomachus]

39. A glimpse of the "cool kids club"

By 6 p.m..the Elkins Park polling place on Ashbourne Road was packed with voters. Two lines that had 12 or fewer people an hour earlier had more than doubled as people finished their workdays and went to vote.

Several voters in the largely African-American community wore Obama t-shirts. Election judges said they often see no more than 100 to 200 voters all day at a primary, but that they had seen six or seven times that number today.

If Hillary loses -- the snottiness of her supporters will be a major factor.

[pdx_prog]

21. I thought those people were the Republicans?

I'm so confused......

[ginnyinWI]

22. are you saying Obama is condescending or his supporters are?

I'd agree with you if you said his supporters (some of them anyway). There's plenty of smugness and condescension on both sides to go around, that's for sure, especially at DU. But I don't see it coming from Obama himself.

[Deep13]

65. It's calculated to be that way.

A leader's own hands must always remain clean.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

23. I think BOTH are elitist!!!

...only Clinton more so.

[Bucky]

36. Do you want your country being run by an ordinaryist?

[PerpetuallyDazed]

64. Well, you got me there!

If I must, I'll settle for the HUMBLE elitist ;)

[Cali_Democrat]

24. I don't think you can call out a member of DU like that

[TragedyandHope]

26. Clinton's elitism and smugness?

I'm not following you.

[susankh4]

27. Not all of us.

I have a M.S.

My D.H. has a Ph.D.

We both voted for Hillary in the Primary and hope we get to do so again in the G.E.

[nuncvendetta]

28. I think HILLARY is the one who needs to be called out on elitism

I live in NC, and one only needs to contrast the type of ads she's running here versus in PA. In PA, it's been all about character assassination and kneejerk emotional gut responses (bitter, bin laden ads, etc.). In NC, we've had none of those ads. Instead, a few weeks ago, Hillary "invited" us in one of her ads to submit policy questions that she would answer in subsequent ads, which she has. They've been very policy-oriented and detailed in their breadth and scope.

So one wonders...why does she think that NC voters get the privilege of having policy ads but not PA? Why isn't she running kneejerk emotional ads here? Is she implying that Pennsylvanians are not good enough for the NC ads, or that they are unsophisticated enough to fall for them? Pennsylvania voters should question the disparity in ad techniques and question what it indicates about how Hillary perceives them.

[jackson_dem]

29. This is the "unity" Obama will bring? This is "change we can believe in"?

[JeanGrey]

31. Oh yeah and Hillary is not "elite" ROTFLMAO

[Hoof Hearted]

32. YES! Let's BURN THEM!

Off to the greatest page with you! K&R! You can find plenty of that here as well.

[Bucky]

33. I'm for Obama and I'm fucking Stupid.

(Actually, she doesn't like it when I call her that.)

[rinsd]

37. You are on a roll today....

:rofl:

[tishaLA]

42. ....

:rofl:

[rinsd]

34. That's one asshole. You can't ascribe that attitude to all Obama supporters

[lumberjack_jeff]

47. Does the attitude need to be held by all to be a meaningful problem? n/t

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[Straight Shooter]

44. Imagine if someone called undereducated, working class O supporters "black trash"

Where do you get off calling people who are poor "white trash"? :wtf:

[lumberjack_jeff]

45. Given what is tolerated, that must have really been something to get deleted. n/t

[Straight Shooter]

61. Poster referred to what's left of Hillary supporters as "white trash"

I'll refrain from expressing any further opinions on the poster due to the delicate sensibilites of some people on this forum. :D

[Cooley Hurd]

38. My education level and my income are irrelevant...

My understanding of politics, however, is. THAT'S why I support Senator Barack Obama.:thumbsup:

[grizmaster]

41. I make under $50K but I have a degree? Now who do I vote for?

Gues I'm stuck between an elitist and and hard case


HA! GO HILLARY!

[Sparkly]

46. "There's a reason" -- what was he/she saying was the reason?

:shrug:

[Justitia]

48. Tim Russert said it's Old, Uneducated, White Women that are holding this primary up.

He says that the Old, Uneducated, White Women voting bloc just wants the lady candidate - consequences be damned.

I find that interesting.

[Darth_Kitten]

52. Timmy's annoying.

n/t

[Justitia]

53. Brokaw just said it now too.

[noiretextatique]

russet is an idiot

hopefully old, uneducated, white women have learned from the mistakes made by old, uneducated white males voting for white males, for the sake of having a white male president.
:puke:

[blonndee]

49. Oh, please. I'm WELL under $50K, college-educated, and a single woman

and I'm for Obama. On the other hand, one poster on DU does not Obama supporters represent. And that works the other way, too. Quit trying to pretend it does.

[Darth_Kitten]

51. Here's to another person making under 50K with no college degree!

So sorry Mommy and Daddy couldn't afford to send me to college. The money I earned doing dishes and waiting tables only went so far paying for business school, couldn't afford a 4 year university. :sarcasm:

I'm so unworthy.

[ileus]

55. so clinton supporters are retards eh? Humm...don't know about your peeps.

[stillcool]

56. Take it up with the media..

and the Clinton Campaign. It cracks me up to see the elitists calling elitism, and then people parroting it all over the board....As if a logical thinker is going to believe this shit.

[Rockholm]

57. You are so right.

This is such a red herring from the Obama people. Try the wealthy Boston suburbs that overwhelmingly went for Clinton.

[mikekohr]

58. I'm under $35,000, white, rural, no degree, AND AN Obama supporter-

And no I'm not bitter, but I am disgruntled.

mike kohr

[aquart]

59. I have a masters from Columbia.

"Without college educations," my ass

[Erin Elizabeth]

60. Around here (urban Texas) Obama voters tend to be the

ones making under 50K and blue collar. AND white collar. And everything else, LOL.

[DeepModem Mom]

62. The Hillary supporter in my house was asked about embarrassment...

at supporting the candidate that the poor and uneducated support. (LIke you, we are not in either of those categories, nor is the questioner.) The Hillary supporter in my family said he joined them with pride. Concern for those not as fortunate as yourself is basic to progressivism, and to the Democratic Party. Those with concern only for themselves, and respect only for those like themselves, are, in my experience, Republicans.

[McCamy Taylor]

63. I can see why the press roots for Obama. His base is the one that buys the products in the ads.

So, they want to make sure that those are the people watching their shows. They don't need a lot of poor folks and elderly tuning in. Isn't Olbermann always going on about how certain demographics don't count?