Chris Matthews just said the Media is to Blame for manufacturing a democratic "race" when its over.

[Political Heretic]

On MSNBC just now. He said its probably "we, in the media's fault" for hyping this process so much and giving Clinton supporters the illusion that Hillary can somehow still win this thing. She can't. Obama would have to have some disqualifying scandal. The only hope is to go to "appeals court and beg to change all the rules"

Obviously I don't have a transcript, but that's pretty close to exactly what he said.

I was a bit surprised to capture such a moment of honesty from the media. :wow: :scared:

[NightWatcher]

1. 1 in 5 Hillary supporters believe that Obama will win the nom

then why send her any money or why vote for her if she's gonna lose?

[susankh4]

44. Not everyone votes for "the winner"

some of us vote on principle.

[papau]

51. 1 in 5 Hillary supporters are disgusted w/ Obama/don't trust his word/won't vote for him in general

[Cooley Hurd]

54. Tuzla...

[krkaufman]

67. 52% of Pennsylvannia Clinton voters, according to the exit polls

And I'm still behind Obama. He's won the votes, and whatever "electability" argument Clinton is trying to make in regards to Obama, her unfavorables are even higher and she's *more* unelectable.

Hillary's unwillingness to face that fact doesn't change it, and all she's doing now is lessening Democratic chances in November by continuing to tear-down the eventual Democratic nominee, Obama.

Oh, well. Some will survive 4 more years of Republicans in the White House.

[blm]

76. A McCain presidency keeps presidency on hold for four years. Obama presidency seals the door shut

on Hillary and she can't take it.

She screwed over every Dem voter in 2000 and 2002 and 2004 as the DNC was used mainly to service the Clintons and their agenda and had no interest in serving Dem voters and candidates then.

[blm]

73. But you WILL vote to keep BushInc protected into the next decade by another Pres Clinton

who will side with the secrecy and privilege of the Bushes and the powerful elite over YOUR citizens' right to open and accountable government.

Yep - THAT'S the way to use your citizenship - Better to NOT TRUST the open government advocate - trust the ones who PROVED they side with Bushes and closed government.

[City Lights]

2. Oh my. Every now and then Matthews says something I wish I'd heard

with my own ears. This is one of those times. :wow:

[ORDem]

10. Agreed! Wow. nt

[dchill]

24. He also said tha campaigns don't send out email...

excuses when they think they're winning... (Complaining about being outspent.)

[City Lights]

37. So the "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen" team is

complaining...:rofl:

Poor babies. :nopity:

[dchill]

43. Hey, it's HOT in there!

:nopity:

[Blarch]

3. heard it.

finally somebody speaking the truth.

It's over.

[DJ13]

4. I heard it too, but somehow it didnt sound like it applied to him

:rofl:

[Cant trust em]

7. That's what I was thinking.

Pardon me, sir, but aren't you "the media"?

[Political Heretic]

15. Righ, I noted that as well! :)

lol

[Window]

49. Too funny. He's the one of the main culprits.

:rofl:

[my3boyz]

75. I know! He is the main one! ugh. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

5. Hillary can still win if the SD's overturn the will of the people

[Alexander]

13. That would be political suicide, and even Clinton SD's have said it won't happen.

If Obama wins PA, it's definitely over. Even if he doesn't, unless Hillary Clinton wins big in every upcoming state, she's not going to be the nominee.

[roguevalley]

63. so far exit polls are 4% apart as of 3:31 PM alaska time.

[JVS]

22. They'd need to have some kind of pressing reason to do so.

[GCP]

6. I'm sick of pundits telling us what to think

And that includes Matthews actually imagining people listen to him
They've written off Clinton more times than I can count and they've been wrong every time.
And he's wrong yet again. It's nothing to do with what he and his ilk are saying, it's people making up their own minds and ignoring him.

[susankh4]

46. Yeah.

What he said.

[ScarletSniper]

8. Pat "Comb Over" Buchanan pretty much just said the same thing...

[BlooInBloo]

9. For once in his McCain-mancrush life, he's right.

Funny - I was just catching up on my blog reading:

http://www.americablog.com/2008/04/hillary.html

For the love of God, would a real reporter please just ask Hillary under what possible scenario she gets more delegates, more states, or more votes than Obama? You all keep playing this game of following her around like she's news. The only reason she's news is that she's an election zombie, roaming the primaries like she's still viable, when she's not. And you know it. And you've written it. But you don't ask her about it. Far more important than even Hillary's bizarre and ever-changing views on nuclear weapons policy is the fact that it doesn't matter any more what Hillary thinks about anything. She lost the nomination. She can't win. And short of an asteroid falling on Obama's head, he's going to get the nomination. We're all focused like a laser beam on the Pennsylvania results as if they matter. They don't. She lost. She can't catch up. We all know it. So why are we still playing this game? Because it would be mean to tell her the truth? Mean to ask her to explain how she possibly wins enough delegates, or even votes, when the math says she can't? What is she, 12? George Stephanopoulos said he couldn't think of a harder question to ask Hillary than as to why people don't trust her. Well, here's one, George: "Under what possible scenario could you catch up to Obama in either delegates or votes?" And don't accept her platitudes about "counting every vote." She can't mathematically overtake Obama, so what is she doing, other than wasting all of our time (and destroying her family's reputation)? (That's another "hard" question, George.)

[NC_Nurse]

20. The first response is an interesting answer.

"She's staying in this to make ure Obama loses. She may not win, she knows that, but she setting out to destroy Obama."

[BlooInBloo]

Yup - Clinton's shortest road to the Presidency is now 4 years....

... (1) Make sure Obama loses to McCain, and then be the only game in town after 4 years of McCain failure.

[cui bono]

31. And yet she hasn't planned for another Obama and by then we'll ALL be over her I think.

[BlooInBloo]

35. It's her only hope, so all the things that could prevent it don't really matter.

[cui bono]

30. That's the only logical reason. Any other reason implies delusion.

If she can make Obama lose, she'll run again in 2012 against Pres. McCain. I'm sure that's the bet she's making. Just like the bet she made to vote for the IWR and look how well that turned out for the country she claims to care about.

[tishaLA]

11. MSNBC is getting ratings out of this, so he'd better shut up

Or GE is going to terminate his contract early.

[IsItJustMe]

12. No shit Sherlock. This whole damn thing has been insane.

[cliffordu]

14. Aw, man...That's the funniest thing I've heard on DU in weeks

he's one of the worst offenders....

whoever was points ahead in the polls he and his crew would dribble a little pee in their direction...

What a skunk.

[Political Heretic]

19. Agreed. I 100% agree he was one of the worst at doing this.

Bash Clinton, things would get to far apart, bash Obama, rinse repeat.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. His own network's expert, Chuck Todd, has been saying that for weeks.

Everyone who is paying attention already knows it.

[Political Heretic]

21. I haven't been able to see Chuck Todd for a while.

I usually have the chance to catch half of hardball and Countdown. Other than that I'm in school full time, internship full time and working nights over the weekends.

[TheDonkey]

27. LOL pretty much

[Coexist]

17. I heard it, too

and he is right.

[azmouse]

18. That was an amazing admission from Tweety.

And I couldn't agree with him more. (I'll probably never say that again! :rofl:)

[Shine]

23. It's over and they know it.

but, it's all about the ratings, so it behooves them them keep up the illusion of there actually being a "race". :crazy:

[Orsino]

38. Illusion is a harsh word.

Don't fault Clinton supporters for believing so strongly, and fighting so hard, when the odds are greatly against them. Fault Clinton herself, if you must blame somebody, for being an inspiring candidate and sticking with it for so long.

The odds of our fixing what's wrong with America are a much longer shot, in my opinion. We can learn something from them, and we might as well call it hope. Imagine if we could harness even a fraction of it a year from now, and apply it to the hard and tedious work of repairing *'s fuck-ups!

[Political Heretic]

58. I agree illusion is a harsh word. I think that's the word he used though. I hope that wasn't my

bias coming out. What he said was pretty strong and surprising to hear, coming from him - one of the worst offenders!

[redqueen]

25. Finally, the truth comes out.

I can't help wondering how Bill was doing at this point in his first campaign... I know the others had dropped out by this point.

[madfloridian]

26. There IS a lawsuit still brewing from FL...calling the DNC prejudiced toward whites

in Florida.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1982

It was filed last week, no further word yet.

You have to read it to believe it. And yes I spelled the word caucasion wrong and didn't catch it soon enough to edit.

[dchill]

28. So, what does all this mean about what the exit polls...

are telling him? Hmmm?

[VenusRising]

29. I heard it.

He even used the word "delusion" to describe it.

:wow:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

32. Don't you know? MSNBC is DEAD to them!

:rofl:

[Freida5]

33. The media and msnbc especially hyped Obama. Chris is a hypocrit and an asshole

[Orsino]

34. delete

[jaysunb]

36. I almost fell out of my chair.

I never thought I'd hear ANY of these people admit this and least of all, Tweety. He's so amped up, I'll bet it just slip out. :evilgrin:

[tishaLA]

39. What will Matthews do without a Clinton to kick around though?

I can't imagine it.

[global1]

40. Couldn't You Have Said That A Couple Of Weeks Ago Chris?.....nt

[Orsino]

41. Even a lying, corrupt, misogynistic elitist clock is right twice a day. n/t

[cbayer]

42. Then it's really the electorates fault for eating up everything the MSM says

regardless of the source.

This "They are great when they are on my side" and "They are trash when they disagree with me" is getting really old.

[high density]

45. Now Wolfson is telling us that PA means everything

and the super delegates should basically ignore everything but PA.

[BlueIdaho]

47. Breaking - Matthews states the bloody obvious, America listens in slack jawed amazement.

[Political Heretic]

55. We're not "amazed" because its a revelation. We're amazed that anyone in the M$M actually said it

on air. :)

[roguevalley]

65. don't worry. david gregory is making an ass of himself in his place.

:+

[Window]

48. Wow! I'm shocked..

but happy! :bounce:

[DangerousRhythm]

50. Yeah, I was shocked to hear him say that.

I yelled at my screen, "FINALLY, someone says it."

[Patsy Stone]

52. Yet, this didn't dawn on him

while he was one of the ones doing it?

STFU, Chris.

[Uncle Joe]

53. Next up how they manufactured a general election race in 2000, keeping it close enough for Bush

and the neocons to steal. Come on Tweety, you can do it, you won't hate your self so much when you look in the mirror anymore and you might not age so fast. One thing is for sure we all know it.

[cooolandrew]

56. EXACTLY, well done Matthews thank god someone said it.

[Texas Hill Country]

57. Chris Matthews is a friggin idiot.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

70. no way. do you ever listen? I wish I knew of what he knows about

history. You may disagree sometimes but all in all he's very bright and
very learned.

[eleny]

59. I don't trust him

This tap dance is about as honest, imo, as his mea culpas over his misogynist behaviors. It sounds too much like "oopsy".

[blm]

60. Tweet was one of the WORST ones hyping the lie - they've known for over TWO MONTHS!

ALL of them in the newsmedia knew about McClatchy's survey of supers after Super Tuesday.

The Clintons managed to convince people that there WAS reason to go on as if they would release damning material against Obama, and none of the news organizations wanted to be responsible on the REAL STORY if that happened.

Clintons had NOTHING - nothing but BLUFF and BLUSTER.

[grizmaster]

61. With Tweety's lips wrapped around Obama's testicles

so firmly, how can you understand anything he says?

All I've heard from him is mumbling for months now.

[stevenleser]

66. An official "Denial of Reality" *PLONK*

[indimuse]

79. !

lol.

[DuaneBidoux]

62. I pretty much agree--except that Obama must take some blame too.

If I were Obama I would have long ago quit even acknowledging Hillary and talked only about McCain. Simply ignore her and she becomes much less relevant.

[blm]

77. That may be exactly what he does now - but I wish he'sd call Clintons out on their longtime

alliance with and protection of Poppy Bush and his cronies.

[brooklyndemo]

64. Matthews has a point

Even winning by a large margin Clinton would not even get to within 100 delegates from Obama, and the bad news for her is that the next states after PA are pro-Obama, according to polls.

[samsingh]

68. why do we care what that imbecile says?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. finally someone in the media says what many of us have said

all along - people hate him here - I don't. I think he's quite erudite. He's a thinker -
unlike the rest of the boobs.

[AntiFascist]

71. Cable and broadcast media is the big winner in all of this...

as long as they can keep the race close, then viewership will remain high and candidates will continue to raise money for advertising.

[AtomicKitten]

72. A moment of clarity - The Clintons will probably demand he retract it or be fired.

Must.Keep.Charade.Alive

[my3boyz]

74. Chris is the biggest hypocrit ever! He is the main one doing it! nt

[indimuse]

78. STILL trying to BULLY her out!

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[meow mix]

80. its true, media... Let Her Sink

[NashVegas]

81. What's That I See Dripping Down Matthews' Leg?

Could it be bullshit?

[Coexist]

82. .

[Raineyb]

83. To which I can only say to Mr. Matthews

Thank you master of the bloody obvious.
:grr:

This is ridiculous. If the circumstances were reversed the powers that be would have been publicly pushing for Obama to stand down long before it got to this point. But I don't suppose we'll have any Hillary supporters admit that shall we?

<sigh>

Regards