ed rendell on msnbc lowering the bar.

[mopinko]

defending FL results. saying the fact that obama didn't want a revote means that they accept the results.
saying the money difference means that if hill wins by 6% it is a substantial victory.
:puke:

[oviedodem]

1. He also LIED about Obama stopping the vote.

[SoCalDem]

7. and, as usual, no one corrected him.. so people who tune in casually

will believe it because they heard it "on the news" :puke:

[LakeSamish706]

2. Rendell is a typical Clinton supporter.... n/t

[tridim]

3. Geez, bury the goal posts already Clintonites. It's over. nt

[jefferson_dem]

4. He ought to sell used cars.

Slimey. Slimey. Slimey.

[jefferson_dem]

9. Chuck Todd is now saying we can expect between a 2 - 16 net gain in delegates for Hillary.

That's it.

[jackson_dem]

17. 16? That may be a 15 point win once you factor in disproportionate allocation that is pro-Obama

[jefferson_dem]

21. That's the high end. Take the middle value - 10 delegates.

Yay for her! Now...can she quit already.

[jackson_dem]

26. Hope

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/4/18735/88678

Vermont: Obama 67, Clinton 33
Ohio: Obama 51, Clinton 49
Texas: Obama 51, Clinton 49
Rhode Island: Clinton 49, Obama 49

She did 12 points better than the exits showed in Ohio, 6 points better in Ohio, 18 points in Rhode Island, and 14 points better in Vermont. If this happens again she is heading for a double digit win!

[jefferson_dem]

27. We'll see.

She damn well better win by double-digits to have a non-laughable talking point to work with.

[dchill]

20. 2-16 - quite a range...

A lot like saying nothing at all.
:shrug:

[jackson_dem]

24. lol yeah

[jefferson_dem]

25. Remember, we're talking net gain in delegates...not vote margin.

So, at best she will finish the night still 155ish PDs in the hole.

[Coexist]

5. I just came to post this - I have been glass-half-empty all evening

but this gives me a little bit of hope now.

[Bigleaf]

6. He couldn't do it if we had a fucking 'real' media to begin with.

That there is the real problem.

[Blarch]

8. I couldn't believe he dropped.

the 'electoral map' BS

Or maybe he forgot to use that talking point.

[mopinko]

29. it's hard to keep track

ya know.

[babylonsister]

10. That could be good news. Or not!

:rofl: I slay me! Who the hell knows? :crazy:

[City Lights]

11. Not this time.

Nope. Hill was favored to win by 20 points not too long ago. PA is Clinton country. Tailor-made for her. If she takes a 20-point lead and turns it into a 6% victory, what will she do with a small, or essential tie starting out in the GE? She has big leads early and squanders them. G'night, Hill. Party's ovah. :hi:

[Cant trust em]

12. So much spin I'm getting dizzy

Both sides are trying to downplay expectations.

[mopinko]

13. well, chaka fattah has a big grin on his face.

i heard yesterday that the internals were not good. but the happy face gives me a little hope.

[azmouse]

15. He has one of the coolest names ever!

Yep he sure does seem happy.

[jackson_dem]

19. Fattah won the proxy war with Nutter over the black vote 92-8

Perhaps that is why he is happy. It is a measure of revenge for losing the mayor's office to Nutter.

[VeraAgnes]

14. The bar is set by who ever receives

the most votes....They call such a Candidate the WINNER! The bar is a hallucination.

[mopinko]

16. no. the bar is delegates.

it's the most delegates that wins. and anybody who tries to turn it in to anything else is a cry baby.

[VeraAgnes]

23. Super-Delegates and pledged as well, they can move in ANY DIRECTION

to any side on a daily basis if they want....right up to the pledge at the Convention.

You forgot that lawyers developed the DNC Rules.:smoke:

[mopinko]

28. so voters count, but pledged delegates don't?

now we are talking about supers?

[frazzled]

22. No, the bar is real: ask Mike Huckabee

who won quite a few primaries against McCain (with no money by the way), but had no mathematical way to win the nomination.

Though the Republican (mostly) winner-take-all game is different, the same applies here: without a major blowout game-changing event, or a total Obama meltdown, "winning" a state means little. It doesn't change the nomination game.

[mopinko]

18. great dnc ad.

glad someone knows that john mcsame is the enemy.