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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:05 PM
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Thank God for the Intelligent Voters of Pennsylvania!
Thank God for the Intelligent Voters of Pennsylvania!

They didn't vote by poll.

They didn't fall over to bully rule.

They didn't vote by matching the polls.

They didn't let the media tell them who to vote for.

And They didn't let a silver-tongued orator pull the wool over their eyes.

Go Pennsylvania!

And I hope Indiana and NC will follow suit. ~*:party:*~
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:06 PM
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:07 PM
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2. Sorry - it was a complete loss for her - she's
TOAST


:nuke:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:12 PM
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9. A 10-point spread isn't exactly "toast"
True, she can't clinch the election without superdelegates at this point, but she can still make Obama hurt.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:24 PM
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:33 PM
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27. She needed 20. Somewhere here someone posted what she
now needs to win the nomination without the stupordelegates reversing field on everyone...


Something like 70% of all the rest of the votes. She ain't even close.

5 more Pa's won't do it.....
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:07 PM
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3. "silver-tongued orator pull the wool over their eyes."
Nice vitriol there.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:49 PM
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34. About the "silver-tongued orator pull the wool over their eyes." And...
Re: "Nice vitriol there."

No vitriol at all.

Cicero was a silver-tongued orator and so were JFK and Jesse Jackson who I love and admire.

But nice knee-jerk there.


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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:33 AM
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40. Knee jerk?
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:34 AM by TTUBatfan2008
Right, your blatant claim that he's trying to pull the wool over our eyes (as if Hillary isn't????) means that I'm somehow having a knee-jerk reaction by calling it what it is? They're both craptastic candidates at this point. Biden and Dodd were better, much better.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:08 PM
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4. Yes, thank God for the intelligent voters of PA ...
... who, a few weeks ago, preferred Hillary to the tune of 25 points over Obama, and tonight gave her an underwhelming win by (so far) 8 points.

Apparently a lot of PA voters came to their senses tonight!
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:15 PM
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15. 10 points.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:29 PM
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25. Last time I looked (a while ago) ...
... it was 8.

But does it really matter - 8 or 10 - when she was projected to win PA a few weeks ago by 25?

By normal mathematical calculations, that's a downward spiral ...
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:35 PM
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28. Yes, there is a difference between 8 and 10, so yes it matters.
And she was predicted to win by approx 20 points, not 25.

But don't let facts stand in your way.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:41 PM
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32. Her highest lead in PA was 25 points ...
... something the Hill Camp, at the time, drove home over and over and over.

But that was then, this is now. And 8 OR 10 points doesn't change the fact that (a) she has lost support over the past six weeks, and (b) she still isn't ahead of Obama in the delegate count.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:45 PM
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33. She was outspent 3-1, and this isn't over yet.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:52 PM
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35. How is being "out-spent" an argument?
She was out-spent because he raised more money than she did, and his campaign isn't leaving a swath of unpaid creditors in its path.

Don't you ever wonder how it could be that Ms Healthcare Reform has allowed her own employees' medical insurance lapse?
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:56 PM
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36. You Got It, janesez. "It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over" And The Fat Lady Sings...
Well, I'm the Fat Lady and I'm not singin' yet! *L*
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 PM
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5. Yeah go MCinsane, smart people in Penn.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 PM
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6. Yeah, I do thank the 46% who voted for Obama.
Too bad 56% were dumbass bigots who pee their pants at the sight of Osama Bin Laden.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:09 PM
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7. Watch me be a model of self restraint.
Ho boy.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:10 PM
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8. Just wondering how to reconcile...
the republican hillary runnning in a democratic primary and when she "wins" we should thank god. I hope god wants an end to the misery of the last 7 years, not four more of the same.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:12 PM
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10. yes, thank you Penn for keeping Obama in the lead, thank you very much
love you all, Go Obama Go who still leads in delegates, you go boy !!!
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:13 PM
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11. The news and pols gave us all the talking points... 10 points, 200 thousand. Sure they danced...
but this is predictable. PA is Rigged! It's a machine state. Obama knew it and so do people inside and outside of PA.

Some of you may not have figured this out but after 7 years of listening to politicians and liars, I smell rigging like I see rigging. Some of you will fall for anything.

Oh well.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:19 PM
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20. I thought it was intersting that it has stayed just where she needed it to stay. n/t
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:13 PM
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12. After seven years of the Douchebag-in-Chief
...a "silver-tongued orator" seems to me a fine thing.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:13 PM
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13. Clinton had to fight tooth and nail for a state that was already hers.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:18 PM
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18. How far in debt is her campaign now?
I just heard she's ten million in the hole, while Obama is flush with cash. Sounds like more of a Pyrrhic victory to me.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:15 PM
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14. We are a practical people, generally. :)
I was very proud to vote for Hillary today. :bounce:

Indiana is ours. NC we won't get.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:17 PM
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16. As a Pa resident, I have to disagree. They were lead by party inside politics,
media spin and Clinton fear and smear tactics. Oh, and I will through in some racism too. Because I have lived in Philly and in Western PA long enough to know that it still exists. Clinton's win tonight makes me sick to live hear. My daughter asked me how we could be so backwards.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:17 PM
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17. PA was rigged. You've been had. She was supposed to win by 10 and 200 thou votes.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:19 PM
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19. They voted for a last name and a lie.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:19 PM
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21. PA helped out Obama big time tonight.. Thank you PA!
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:23 PM
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22. Thank you PA for making what was supposed to be a landslide into a single digit win.
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:26 PM
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24. Too bad they were less than 50% of the Pennsylvania voters
although of course they did vote at the polls.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:32 PM
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26. What does God have to do with anything?
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:32 PM by longship
You mean to tell me that a so-called almighty deity was instrumental in HRC's victory?
You've got to be kidding.

I'd be more than happy for you and HRC if you had not compromised your personal pleasure
by invoking deities in what is decidedly a secular domain.

That's something which I would expect the Republicans to do.

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:41 PM
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31. Maybe He did have something to do with it -- after all,
isn't there something in those Commandments along the lines of "Thou shalt not put other gods before me"??? He can't be too happy with Obamania.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:19 AM
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39. Amen to That, smalll...
Amen to That, smalll... And thank you! ~*;)*~
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:16 AM
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38. Maybe Nothing...
Maybe Nothing...

But stating it that way isn't so much my crediting a Deity as my sharing my happiness with the Cosmic Woobie, you know?

Perhaps I should have said that the god or gods of random helped tip things away from the wrong direction, IMHPOV?

As to my personal religion, I am a Deist -- like the founders of this country -- and an existentialist.

I believe in existence and the constant grinding of the absurd, as well as a Creator & Prime Mover who set things in motion, gave us this green earth and free will and is allowing us to work out and towards whatever we will without any interference or intercession from the Deity...

So I guess it's ironic that I called God into the whole thing when I knowing in fact that no Santa in the Sky had anything to do with it.

Confused? That's okay. Don't think on it too hard or your head might pop...

Oh, and I've been a Democrat since 1978.

Are you happier for me now that you know a little bit about me?
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gsaguyCLW54 Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:36 PM
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29. She will be our nominee....
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:37 PM
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30. And they put Hillary further in the hole
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:10 AM
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37. Spin, spin, spin
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:41 AM
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41. She won and she won well!!!!!!!!
The media and the party leaders be damned!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:43 AM
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42. Thank God for Philly, the rest, not so much. -eom
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