My, How Sour the Grapes Are This Evening

[tgnyc]

A sampling of post titles appearing on the Greatest page following a Clinton double-digit win:

March 12 in PA: Clinton 55, Obama 36... Today: Clinton 55(+0), Obama 45(+9)

Obama Spent our Money Well in PA! Shaved 10 points off Party Machine/ 8 year WH advantage!

Home town advantage memory for you: Hawaii, Obama 76%, Clinton 23%

6 weeks ago HRC was up 20 points so she lost her 10 point lead DESPITE Wright, Bitter, Flag Pins. .

Something is FUCKING WRONG .. CNN VS. STATE Reporting .. One has it wrong

"Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed" - NYT

It amazes me that Clinton Supporters are thrilled by a 10 point win!

Obama supporters are the true victor tonight

If I were a Hillary Clinton supporter right now, I'd be extremely depressed

hillary clinton wins using the politics of fear, racebaiting

Do the right thing Hillary, you DIDN'T win by a landslide. Time to concede

So basically this is the worst possible outcome for our party.

Over 70% in - Measly 6 delegate lead, 117,000 popular vote lead

My house is like a morgue tonight...

Why I Distrust PA Election Results…

People, listen up for a second: HE'S NOT THE MESSIAH. HE'S JUST A MAN. SOMETIMES HE JUST LOSES. SUCK IT UP, FOR GOODNESS SAKE. GET A GRIP. DITCH THE MELODRAMA. TAKE THE "L." IT WON'T KILL YOU. OR HIM. OR THE PARTY. OR THE COUNTRY.

Thank you. Good night.

[Cant trust em]

1. There were quite a few congratulatory threads earlier.

But no one ever said he was the messiah.

[cliffordu]

2. All ya gotta do is count the delegates....

[spoony]

3. They taste more...bitter.

[Catherine Vincent]

4. They're bitter. They are the ones that Obama was talking about.

heh! :)

[rpannier]

5. I agree with what you say

Neither of them was ever going to win every state (after Edwards dropped out).
Tonight Clinton got more votes.
In NC it'll probably be Obama that gets more votes
In Indiana, it's pretty much all about Lake County. Very Democratic. Rather conservative. Very Union. And a hell-of-a-lot like the city of Chicago.

I think he'll win Indiana as well.

I think she'll win Puerto Rico.

[FrenchieCat]

6. I'm sorry, didn't realize we were being regulated!

My post, "Obama Spent our Money Well in PA! Shaved 10 points off Party Machine/ 8 year WH advantage!"
was in direct response to two threads (to which I felt compeled to bring some perspective to)shameless titled stuff like....."HE OUTSPENT HER 3-1 AND STILL LOST".

In otherwords, responding to the Tasteless gloating by less than magnanimous so called winners.

[mmonk]

7. And she doesn't own this party.

[Gore1FL]

8. Kudos to Hillary by winning what appears to be by 10%

Just like Kudos to the baseball team who scores 4 runs in an inning to lessen the margin of defeat to 8-4.

Bottom line: The math just got worse for her.

[FlyingSquirrel]

9. You probably won't wanna come around here during "gloating week"

I'm not even sure if I'm gonna be able to myself, and I expect to be on the winning side.

[swishyfeet]

12. I'm clearing my schedule for "gloat week" now!

We'll be one step closer to directing both barrels at McSame.

[MercutioATC]

10. This really wouldn't be an issue if Clinton supporters had a firmer grasp of math.

I can only speak for myself. I congratulate Clinton supporters on her win in PA tonight.

That said, the math hasn't changed. I won't rub that fact in if the poster just wants to feel good about their candidate. They have every right to feel good.

So do Obama supporters...the numbers are all on Obama's side, and he was expected to lose PA by 20+ points just 6 weeks ago. roughly 10-point loss instead of 20+, combined with his considerable lead in delegates, are cause for celebration.


There are about a dozen of the regular Clinton trolls here who insist on spinning every event into an Obama negative. Notice that I did not say a Clinton positive...

When Clinton's actual position is pretty much unrecoverable and some members here choose to spin small events as te "end of Obama", you can expect some hostility. Many Clinton supporters are realistic and gracious, but the ones who post flamebait often drown them out.

[GetTheRightVote]

11. It does seem like that is a fact, can not do the math, Obama has won

already, he is the Democratic Nominee !!

[tgnyc]

31. There's a difference between wanting to feel good, and childish nya-nyah-ing

Like we saw last night.

[cui bono]

13. Guess you haven't been paying much attention to what Clinton needs to keep going.

And it ain't sour grapes. She's had those for a long time already.

[grantcart]

14. Thanks for the summary I missed a couple

[Justitia]

15. Yeah, War and Threatening to Nuke Iran kinda leave a bad taste in my mouth.

But then again, I'm a Democrat.

[Political Heretic]

16. I haven't cared much at all. Barely watched the coverage. Because it doesn't matter.

I don't mean PA doesn't matter because Clinton won. I mean none of it matters. North Carolina where Obama is expected to win big, also doesn't matter. Neither does Indiana. No, its not that "states" don't matter. Its that, because of the way our democratic nomination process works, Obama is going to be the nominee. It's already a done deal. That's just the way it is. All of this theater does nothing other than decrease that chance that we will all enjoy a democratic president in 2008. I'm ready to focus on the general.

Thus, I have no reason to be bitter, or upset, or anything else. I'm not disappointed with tonights results, and I won't be excited about NC results. Every day that we go on with this crap is a wasted day against John McCain, and a day that our changes of being in the white house for the next four or eight years decreases.

[TeeYiYi]

17. "Only the true Messiah denies His divinity."...

re: HE'S NOT THE MESSIAH. HE'S JUST A MAN.


<sub>Obama: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!

Girl: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.

Obama: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!

Followers: He is! He is the Messiah!

Obama: Now, fuck off!
(silence)

David Plouffe: How shall we fuck off, O Lord?</sub>


TYY B-)

[RBInMaine]

18. Yup, he lost a state Hillary was supposed to win by 20+. So what happened??

[tgnyc]

19. What happened is she won and he lost. Why is that so hard to accept around here

without massive doses of qualification and snide rejoinders?

[question everything]

20. I know. Why can't they be gracious and accept the results?

Of course, if he is the President, they will complain, too, since no one can be everything to everyone and he, being a blank slate, has been projected with all the wish lists in the world.

[bhikkhu]

21. Your glass is half empty. All I see is positives -

Hillary supporter can cheer a well earned win, and they have.

Obama supporters can cheer a more certain and much closer nomination, and they have.

All the rest is beside the point. We have a repug to beat in the GE, and we are getting there by steps.

[tgnyc]

24. Positives? "So basically this is the worst possible outcome for our party."

Not too positive.

[bhikkhu]

25. Whoever said that may be having a bad night.

We are all entitled to one now and then. But all along a minimal win by Hillary in PA was the benchmark for a good progress toward the GE for Obama, and that benchmark has been met. After weeks of angst some relaxation is due.

[guruoo]

22. My fav: "Hateful Clinton Voters Won't Support Obama in GE"

To that I say, freekin get a life!

[LibertyorDeath]

23. She has won nothing Obama WILL BE THE NOMINEE

She is a DINO & has run a despicable scorched earth campaign

against a fellow Dem only he's not a fellow Dem because she's DLC = Republican lite...

I hope she goes into massive debt in the futile effort to get more delegates than Obama.

She Sickens me to the core. A true Corporate weasel of a Politician Power at all costs.

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. Bookmarking

:evilgrin:

[Occam Bandage]

27. Actually, "we won" is not sour grapes. It is the opposite of sour grapes.

"sour grapes" is a dismissal as undesirable of something you previously desired. That has not occurred. Rather, Obama supporters are (correctly) declaring that Obama walked out of PA closer to the nomination than than he walked in.

[tgnyc]

30. When polls showed Obama within a few points, Obama people "desired" victory in PA.

When he lost, they treated victory in PA like it was toxic.

[TwilightGardener]

28. We're LONG past the point of "Yayy! Congratulations! We have two great candidates!

But we'll beat ya next time! See you in (next state)!" That happy kumbaya shit ended in February. We're at the point now where we're just waiting for Hillary to quit so that Obama can be the nominee and take on McCain. Sorry if that takes the wind out of your little sails, if we Obama supporters are tired of putting on a polite show for Hillary cultists.

[Tribetime]

29. you guys had a good night cong. enjoy

but Obama's gonna comeback strong in 2 weeks