can someone explain why anyone likes Hillary?

[TheFarseer]

This is a serious question. Did you think the Clinton years were fun? Do you own Citigroup stock? Do you honestly think globalization will bring in high paying jobs, maybe eventually at some point in the future? I keep hearing experience. Experience with what? A few years in the Senate? Do you realize almost every senator is more qualified in that case? Laura Bush does not get any experience credit as first lady of the USA or of Texas, so try again. Time spent as a corporate lawyer for Walmart does not count either. Where is this 35 years experience coming from? Why not just say 60 years and count time spent in diapers crawling around the playpen?

OK, OK, I will admit she is saying alot of the right things when I listen to her speak, but I just can't believe anything she says because her record is so at odds with alot of what she is saying. For instance, the Columbian free trade thing where she opposes it but Bill has taken serious money to lobby FOR it. Bill Clinton balanced the budget when he was president, but Hill is so busy promising money to anything and everything, I just don't see her balancing the budget - unless being full of crap actually works in her favor in this case. I'm sorry, I just don't get it. Why are people voting for her? It's got to be because of the 90's, right?

I keep wavering on who to vote for if she wins. I really do not trust/like/want to suffer through 4 years of partisan bickering with Hillary but McCain keeps making it so darn hard to vote for him either. Maybe someone can convince me.

[MonkeyFunk]

1. She's smart, strong, savvy

and a great Democrat.

[Cant trust em]

13. I agree with the first three

I'm not sure what a "good democrat" is anymore.

[BeyondGeography]

72. A "great Democrat" plays the fear card with bin Laden

and says the Republican nominee is more qualified to be commander-in-chief than her Democratic opponent?

Congrats on the victory. Wake up now.

[Bluebear]

2. 'Did you think the Clinton years were fun?' - a damn sight "funner" than the last 8 years. nt

[GetTheRightVote]

3. do not worry, Obama is our nominee after today for sure

I can not wait for the general elections to start, I am going to volunteer to help him at his office in my location. I just can't wait, oh boy.

[goletian]

4. why anyone likes hillary? i have the answer.

the word, gullible, is not in the dictionary. thats why.

[Phillycat]

5. She's brilliant, experienced, has bipartisan support, and is a tenacious fighter.

And I don't trust Obama one whit. He is a liar, an empty suit politician running under a false banner of "change and hope".

[Shae]

84. Question ....

What did Obama lie about? Oh yeah, Bosnia. Oh wait, that was the other one. Nevermind.

Why don't you do a little research on him if you think he is an "empty suit" instead of parroting what you hear by his political opponents.
A little education never hurt anyone.

[Labors of Hercules]

90. A little education...

Makes people realize they are wrong in their arguments against Obama AND their arguments for Clinton.

It's a double edged sword that one, and we know how much people hate being shown the truth about themselves, especially when they are wrong.

[Thepricebreaker]

109. AHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAAHA!!!! Yes her neg rating REALLY shows this...

[mattomjoe]

6. Well, she does have a "D" after her name

I mean, isn't it automatic?

:shrug:

[jgraz]

7. I honestly don't get it.

What kills me is the intellectual dishonesty that's constantly displayed on this site in support of her. It's like the one thing that Hillary and her supporters share is that truth just doesn't matter to them.

[MonkeyFunk]

11. and from my perspective

99% of Obama supporters here are inveterate liars. It's all about where you stand, I guess.

[Cant trust em]

17. 99% seems a little high.

I may have been wrong a few times, even posted things that were inaccurate, but I've never purposely stated things that weren't true. I can't imagine that 99 out of every 100 have either.

[MonkeyFunk]

29. You're right

I overstated it.

It's nowhere near that high. It's a much smaller percentage who post a lot.

[Labors of Hercules]

91. It's funny though that I feel the same way about Hillary supporters...

It's a small percentage that post a lot.

[symbolman]

40. If that's not a delusional statement

I don't know what is...

Its the grating desperation of The Cackler and her followers, the constant reversal of Reality that's most bothersome, and what's worse, not being able to tell the difference between a dorky old harpy, and a hep intellectual who is enough of a gentleman to not focus on her petty negativity when he could cut her to shreds in an instant..

The Truth HURTS the Hillbots, hence the state of denial..

Too bad.

[schrodinger_I]

47. I concur

Hillbots....hehehe...

[Zhade]

53. Seriously! I mean, video evidence and government documents PROVE she lied!

It's undeniable, yet people who know this still support her. It reminds me of those who support b*s*.

[jgraz]

92. Please, you're upsetting the worshippers.

Here, have some pudding. The mothership will be here soon.

[PBS Poll-435]

8. Because she likes me.

She likes regular old America.

She like people doing well.

She is smart and savvy and never gives up.

[Zhade]

54. She also seems to enjoy lying repeatedly and shamelessly.

NT!

[PBS Poll-435]

57. .

.

[PBS Poll-435]

58. Just like Obama...

It is a sick game we play. They all seem the same.

'cept this one.

She is the real deal and she isn't taking **** anymore.

NT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zhade]

68. Tuzla, NAFTA - we have actual proof of her lies.

You fail, again.

[PBS Poll-435]

70. So are you a Reagan Democrat?

NT!

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. I like ice cream. You like obama.

Hillary is a tough fighter.

[Zhade]

56. But ice cream doesn't lie to your face about nonexistent sniper fire.

NT!

[The_Casual_Observer]

62. Boy, was that ever a stupid thing to say.

kos must have said it first!

[Zhade]

69. I actually haven't read kos in years.

The fact remains that she lied to your face, and you're the sucker who ignored the proof that she lied to back a failed candidate.

[BigDDem]

93. Does Kennedy money pay for the ice cream?

:rofl:

[meg]

10. yes

headlines like yours push me over towards Clinton. I'm serious, too.

[TheFarseer]

81. Don't be like that

just tell me what change she's made. "I've already made change" she says - what change? The only thing anyone can give me is children's healthcare, which ANY democrat would have done.

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[AtomicKitten]

14. Nope.

[TwilightGardener]

15. I think she'll make a really bad President, frankly. I won't vote for her under any circumstance.

[la la]

32. WHY do some posters

continue to say they won't vote for 'Clinton' or vice versa- 'Obama'--that makes no fukin' sense for a supposed Democratic poster here-- no sense at all-- serious sour grapes, as 'they' say!

geeze

[TwilightGardener]

33. In the end, I won't vote for someone I don't like and don't trust--it's that simple.

I'm not that wedded to the party. If I liked and trusted a Republican candidate more than the Dem candidate, I'd vote Republican--I doubt that would ever happen, but I suppose it's possible. I happen not to like or trust McCain either, so it's a "stay-home" day if she were to be the nominee.

[la la]

37. Which means-

if a large number--or, even, a small number, of Democratic voters do stay home---guess who will be our pResident. Yep-- the old man mccain.

[TwilightGardener]

39. Hm. Guess the party better nominate the right person then.

[la la]

42. sorry, weinerdoggie-

not a good answer. maybe you should change your party affiliation now.

[TwilightGardener]

43. If Hillary somehow becomes the nominee, I'll become an Indie like my husband.

Already made up my mind on that.

[schrodinger_I]

48. Sour grapes?

Obama is still way in the lead! Hillary won a primary... Not even by a huge
margin. It isn't like she has some sort of mandate now that she should
be the Democratic Candidate.

[Zhade]

59. Speaking for myself, I won't reward a proven liar like clinton with my vote.

But since she won't be the nom, I don't have to worry about it.

[guruoo]

16. They done us good in the 90's and no, I'm not going to explain

[Webster Green]

26. NAFTA, right-wing media monopolies, cruel welfare reforms..

Yeah Man! They done us real good!:rofl:

[guruoo]

79. Welfare reform was needed, the Repugs have taken it too far.

I too, was tired of seeing able bodied people living off my hard work.

[Webster Green]

94. You are mis-informed on the subject...

That is a popular right-wing myth that has been around damn near forever. The welfare queen driving around in a new caddy. Christ-O-Rama, do you believe everything they tell you?

Bubba's original welfare "reforms" were horrible, and made it impossible for anyone to get ahead.

Sorry, I'm not into going to look for links that might bring you up to speed on how fucked up they actually were. I've got more important shit to do.:smoke:

[guruoo]

99. Actually, I'm quite well read on the issue.

Perhaps you're just more liberal than I am.

[Webster Green]

103. Perhaps you're just more cruel than I am.

Whatever:eyes:

[guruoo]

106. I'm "cruel" to the welfare recipents that don't need, or deserve to receive it

[Webster Green]

107. Heh!

OK, whatever..

NAFTA rocks too!:smoke:

[guruoo]

108. Di pickney too hard eaize...

Yah! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zTxUxFjLB0

[Webster Green]

110. OK!...Now we're on the same frequency..

Rastafari!:thumbsup:

[rug]

18. Why does one like a rabbit surrounded by rabid dogs?

[TwilightGardener]

20. You've got to be kidding. Hillary's nothing BUT a rabid dog--for power.

[rug]

21. Not in GDP.

[springhill]

49. And Obama doesn't want the power?

Give me a break. I never heard of Obama until four years ago and now he's running for president? Hillary is no more or no less power hungry than anyone else who runs for president.

[TwilightGardener]

64. Of course. But I trust the way he would wield it. She's just a nutcase.

[la la]

66. weinerdoggie---

you're getting a bit out of control. Must be the sour grapes.

:evilgrin:

:hide:

[TwilightGardener]

67. LOL! Nope, no sour grapes. Just waiting for this shit to come to its inevitable conclusion.

[aquart]

19. Condescending much?

Not to mention, your pretense of rational judgment is just appalling.

[TheFarseer]

80. Thanks, I like you too n/t

[tularetom]

22. If she'd get the nomination the repubs will destroy her

except that would lead to 4 more years of the same shit we've put up with for the past 7.

But seriously, everybody that says she's been "vetted" and is such a "tough fighter" do you really think they're not gonna bring up whitewater, vince foster, travelgate, cattlefuturesgate, wbhubbellgate, lewinskygate, the clinton death list, and on and on and on.

Makes no difference if its been disproven, they'll bury her so deep in it you won't even be able to hear her cackle from inside the pile.

She'll be reduced to a puddle of mush by the time of the general election.

[lutefisk]

45. Destroy her? They'll "obliterate" her. They are helping her now. . .

...because she's the one they KNOW they can destroy.

[Hepburn]

23. They are clueless....

...:shrug: Nothing can explain how anyone could like a shrew like HilLIARy.

[Chovexani]

24. She pisses off obnoxious people

A plus in my book.

[JCMach1]

38. And she's a hot sexy woman with grit enough to kick your teeth in

[Ysabel]

74. get a room please...

[Zhade]

61. Are people who don't like liars obnoxious? Because I really hate her for being a liar.

And it's not like this isn't a fact - TUZLA.

[Justitia]

25. I'm not a Republican, so no, can't explain it. They like what War looks like on teevee? -eom

[Spider Jerusalem]

27. I don't like her, personally. But I can understand why some do.

I've come close at different times to liking her, myself; it's usually when I've had a chance to see her in a setting that's suited to her communication style. She does well in smaller town-hall settings; when she has a chance to speak to groups of voters on policy issues, she's in her element; engaged, natural, and, yes, even likable. She doesn't do well in adversarial settings, and she doesn't do well giving speeches to large audiences; in those situations she can come across as hectoring, forced, and a bit stiff and unnatural. I think that had Hillary focused her campaign more around her natural strengths rather than taking the bad advice of her campaign managers, she would have done better than she has, and her candidacy would be viewed much more favourably here than it is. She's highly intelligent, knowledgeable, and passionate on the issues in the right setting. Unfortunately, she is not a natural politician (in fact, my assessment of her personality is that she's an introvert, for whom the highly public and shallow side of politics does not come naturally).

[bluetrain]

28. I, honestly, find her to be much more competent than Obama. He is vague, where she is specific.

She has exhibited a much greater understanding of all the issues than he has. And she's tenacious as hell. She's, certainly, not my first choice, but, now that we're down to the bottom of the barrel, she surpasses Obama by far.

Don't vote for McCain. If nothing else, you will not want to be even somewhat responsible for the legacy he would leave in the Supreme Court.

[Skarbrowe]

30. I'm still a bit confused by that one. I can't figure out if I'm hoping

she wins this primary or that primary, while in the back of my mind knowing that Obama will most likely win the nomination. It's like I want her to go out on a high note if she has to go out. I don't know if it's a "woman" thing with me or not. During the 90's, I don't recall being all that thrilled with her. Hmm, I think I started really liking her when she became a Senator. I have to separate her from Bill because I'm not real crazy about him.

I do think Hillary has a political mind and policy beliefs that are totally separate from Bill. Hillary, if she were to become President, would probably surprise a lot of people with a very pronounced progressive platform. I like her health insurance plan. I truly regret her most likely calculated vote for the IWR.

The problem is that there are things I really like about Obama, but he is just too green for me. I wanted him to be a Senator a few years longer. I haven't really heard him say what this great change is going to be. I'm not saying he won't try and make great change, I just don't hear what it is. Hillary, for me, might be slightly default mode because I'm extremely unsure of Obama. I love his smile and the way he seems to move people so much. But, I've seen him quick to anger, which isn't all that bad, and I'm sure Hillary could have some anger issues herself. I've also caught Obama is a couple small lies that just proved to me that he was a politician. No big deal.

I could never accuse any Obama supporter of being mesmerized by him and NOT be constantly thinking of how he would actually govern the country. Sometimes I feel like I do that with Hillary. But, it's always followed up with, damn, that woman knows what's she's doing. As long as it doesn't include sniper fire stories.

I tried to tell you why. Like I said, I'm confused. I know..great voter material. Hey, my vote didn't count anyway. :) My next vote will, just guessing here, be going to Obama. I should have tried answering this when I wasn't so sleepy. It's a very good question.

[CK_John]

31. I like a lot of people but I would never vote for them. Liking is the last thing we need in politics

It's about issues, getting things done, and knowing how to do them and convincing people that they will make a goddamn decision and not dancing around the willow tree trying to make everybody happy.

[la la]

34. I trust her and

my opinion is that IF she becomes President, she will do an excellent job- she knows 'her stuff' and she will not need a myriad of advisors, as I think Obama might need.

I guess it's just trust- which, sadly, I don't have in Obama.

edited to say---I WILL vote for Obama in Nov., if he is the one nominated.

[RememberWellstone]

35. Because she is not Obama.

Pretty much looks like the case to me.

[sandnsea]

36. Women are voting for a woman

and are so used to being in the victim role, that they automatically believe that Hillary is being victimized so they can't see the truth of her failures.

[la la]

41. I don't feel like looking up

your profile- and I don't really care-- but--are you a woman?

I didn't vote for her in the CA primary because she was a woman, I voter for her because I thought she was the best person to lead the country. Now, if that's being a victim, I guess I am one. An old one, too. And white. And, of course, a woman.

[sandnsea]

44. Yes

And that "used to being in the victim role" was overstated, I should have said used to women being victimized, may have been victimized themselves.

California isn't now. A lot has happened between now and then. Now we know what she's willing to do, willing to say, go off on tangents about sniper fire -- sorry, I just can't see any reason for anybody to support her anymore. Not unless they're just uninformed, and that isn't true of DUers.

[la la]

65. I haven't ever

cried 'victim', will be 68 in a few months and I've always worked things out the best I could for myself. I see that in Clinton. That is not being a victim or feeling victimized, but of course, that's just me. Personally, I feel discussions about playing the 'victim card' is seriously stereotypical and not a worthwhile discussion, but again- that's just me.

I realize the CA primary was a few months ago---but I was commenting on why I voted for Clinton then, and I have not changed my mind.

[sandnsea]

75. Yep, people are just stereotyping her, poor thing

There ya go.

[schrodinger_I]

50. I agree

I hope the reason they are voting for her is better than that.

[Hazelrah]

46. I work with 2 Hillary supporters and asked them the same question.

Both were big supporters of Clinton.
Both are white women over the age of 30 (under the age of 40).
Both are mothers.

Supporter 1: I want a women in the white house, I think it's time for a women president.

Me: So you supported Carol Moseley-Brown in the last election?

S1: Who's she?

Me: Okay, moving on.

Supporter 2: I think there is something inherent to being a women and a mother that would make her a better leader.

Me: Better leader, what makes women/mother inherently better leaders? Isn't that sexist?

S2: All the war/violence, the way children and the poor are treated are because of policies controlled by men. Women/mothers care more about others?

Me: What about the Iraq vote? What about 'obliterate' Iran? Was Thatcher more peaceful, caring of the poor, a better protector of children? If Ann Coulter was running would you vote for her?

--silence--

S2: She has better experience, better connections.

Me: If you wanted experience, I assumed you originally supported Biden? Ah, no. Well, no matter. Where did she get her experience, she is a relatively new to the senate? Ah, the first lady. As the first lady does Laura Bush have the necessary experience (does Barbara's beautiful mind have half the necessary experience)?

--silence--

If she is so experienced and connected why is a 'non-connected' 'non-experienced' Senator from IL with a funny name doing so much better.

--silence--

At this point, I just stopped. It would do no good, their decision was based on something that could not be touched by logic or argument.

In Hillary, they saw themselves and they wanted a win, wanted to live vicariously through the success of someone who looks like them. All of the reasons they gave me didn't matter, not because they are not valid reasons but because they did not vote for her for those reasons. They voted "themselves" into the nominee and in their hearts, they voted "themselves" into the White House.

Now before I get flamed, let me tell you the following:

I am a white women between the ages of 30-40.
I voted for Bill Clinton (twice), Al Gore, Wes Clark (primary) and Kerry.
I am not a mother but have raised 2 children.

My reasons for not supporting Hillary are both global (Iraq) and personal (flag burning, really?), so I don't fault them for using their own criteria to determine the proper candidate. I can't argue their self-identification with Hillary away, it would cause too much friction and be completely futile.

What kills me is that this all seems to be a bizarre type of selfishness.

A fanatic who roots for the home team because it makes him feel like a big man, a winner, as everything seems to fall apart around him. Screw everything else. They won, so I won.

Screw the war. Screw the women and children in Iraq. They don't look like me, their kids don't look like mine.

Screw the poor. I'm middle class, I'm fine.

Screw the college kids, my kids are too young. There will be money when I need it.

Screw the world and screw you, co-worker, trying to discuss your bullshit issues and asking me to explain myself.

I don't care. They win. I win.

Go away.



So, I did.

[HuffleClaw]

51. ya got me

other than her 'experience' as first lady, what does she offer america? had she not been married to bill clinton that she'd have EVER reached the prominence that she has. not for a moment.

[Zhade]

52. I'm still trying to figure out why they support a proven liar.

Her lies are undeniable, yet some deny them. How?

[cynatnite]

55. Oh, the bush years have been funner....

:sarcasm:

[Hoof Hearted]

60. She's the only one left WHO CAN WIN,

[Zhade]

63. Considering she's losing the nomination, that's a strange argument.

NT!

[crankychatter]

71. lots of them here hate her but deny it because they're not Democrats

They just fake passion for her to defeat Obama

...others just hate Black people more than they like Clinton

still others... have been swept up in the xenophobic, anti-islamic, hawkishness of the last seven years...

Clinton wants to go kill more "tarrists" than Barack does...

They LOVE her because she HATES with them... they THINK

but they're just tools

there are some nice Clinton supporters that just think she's the better candidate...

I've listened to them and they seem to be willing to forgive every lie, deny the relevance of her voting record... think the status quo of the Electoral Process being commandeered by Corporations is a necessary evil, and just SPIFFY DOODLE.

Beyond that you'll have to ask THEM... I think they're clueless regarding what this struggle is really about.

[damndude]

85. i was a big clinton supporter

he was the first president i ever voted for. but i have grown to loathe and detest this woman hillary clinton. i truly cant stand the sight of her now. i have sat back and lurked and read these angry, illogical back and forths between poster here about the most trivial distractions in this primary and thought 'we are actually allowing this to slip away' this slam dunk election. all of her outright lies that have not been called on. the most reprehensible campaign i have very witnessed. i think she has out-bushed bush when it comes to underhanded tactics. its all on display in interviews, through the her surrogates, and for continuing to try and make a pot of stone soup that only serves one.
i'm not angry for barack obama, i believe he will be fine.
i am angry as a democrat for what i see another democrat doing to our party
i'm angrier that it is an icon of the party who seems to believe she should hold special status
I'm angry because no one in any interview has yet to call her on her tactics even as she cackles away
i'm angry that she has recreated the disillusionment i felt following 2000 with bush v. gore and i don't think i'm the only one who feels that way
her strategy of relying on big states to win the general underneath relies on the old divisiveness of scaring people into supporting you out of gender or racial identification and defining your opponent with thinly veiled personal attacks and lies and the creation of fear in people. just like the republicans.
the same anger we all feel for bush his blatant actions against out country is the same anger that should be felt for actions against our party, even if you are her supporter as i was until february.
i'm tired of her spin, her lies, her justifications, he surrogates (especially macauliffe), her trashing of small states and those who didn't vote for here, her projection of dirty tricks onto everyone she feels is her opponent in any arena, her fake claims of reverse racism, her actual reliance on reverse sexism, her husband and the fact that everyone else's past is fair game except his, her hypocrisy and disdain.
the layers of her persona she has stripped away during this season has revealed a woman i can't stand the sight of. like kay bailey hutchison or anne coulter, michelle malkin, and condelezza rice. not because the are women (which shows how much this debate has deteriorated, i have to stated that i don't disagree with a person's sex) but because of who that present themselves as, who they actually are and the things that they do.
i have had to get this off my chest. i'll sit back and watch the ensuing rock fight without further comment.

[Zodiak]

98. Damn, dude

That rant was righteous!

[Jed Dilligan]

73. People believe in government power, and they are impressed with it.

They actually think the military could "win" a war against a non-consenting people, including us. They want someone authoritarian who makes them feel safe, as opposed to an authoritarian who doesn't, without being able to see beyond authoritarianism. They also want to delegate their own responsibility to fix the world's problems to a "powerful" leader. They don't want to hear the message that they have to be part of change for change to happen.

That's my best explanation at this point.

[Eurobabe]

76. Because they are stupid.

And her disgusting show of power hunger re: obliterating Iran is one reason why I will never vote for her, should she get the nomination.

I think by this week the SDs will come out and end this fiasco.

[ShortnFiery]

77. it's a true mystery to me. i've not ever disliked a politician more than

HRC and her "good ole' boy" husband. I can only hope and pray that they are sent packing back to NY State where they can mercifully fade into obscurity ... hopefully in MASSIVE debt because they've earned it by trashing OUR Party.

HRC: If I can't be President, no Democrat can!!!

Yeah Hilly, take your medication and get off of my TV Screen.

[spoony]

78. I just don't like Democrats being attacked so ruthlessly

and have a "stick up for her" reaction. GDP is in a sickening state.

[CK dexter]

82. Fear

Many democrats are republicans with a guilty conscience, trying to appease it by tossing some spare change to the rest of the population. They sense, as do his supporters, that Obama's change rhetoric is not BS, and they're scared they may be asked to live up to their professed convictions.

[Independent-Voter]

83. Because she has a vagina? That's the sole basis for much of her uneducated base.

Harsh, but true.

[Apollo11]

97. congratulations

You just demeaned all the women in the world and ridiculed the idea of gender equality and at the same time you insulted the 15 million Democrats who voted for Senator Clinton up until now.

[WinkyDink]

101. Too bad your mother had one.

[jr7]

86. can someone explain why anyone likes Hillary?

I think some like her because she is a woman. That and the media has done a good job of covering up the clinton's national security failings.

Why Obama hasn't gone after them on those, especially given the 3AM adds, makes no sense to me.

[jr7]

88. can someone explain why anyone likes Hillary?

Besides, she makes Nixon look like a boyscout.

[TheFarseer]

95. whoa, don't get too far into that with 5 posts

I don't need to get into anything that Rush Limbaugh would say to thoroughly explain what's not to like with her. Just trying to help :hi:

[jr7]

87. can someone explain why anyone likes Hillary?

I just don't trust the woman.

[Armstead]

89. I keep wondering the same question. The only answer I can see is she has a nice smile.

There's a cognitive disconnect between a candidate whose family is in the bucket for corporate "free trade" while pretending to be for the workers of America.

[Apollo11]

96. Hillary has done great in every TV debate they've had

Senator Clinton's knowledge of the issues is impressive.

Her strength comes across in TV interviews and in the debates.

It is much more than simply remembering and repeating a stump speech.

[WinkyDink]

100. "McCain keeps making it so darn hard to vote for him " = Your true colors.

For a Democrat, the phrase is "impossible to vote for him".

[Joe Chi Minh]

102. Who says any progressive does?

[Butch350]

104. Birds of a Feather...

...

[Blue_In_AK]

105. I like her because she's a fighter...

That's not to say that she's my favorite in this race -- I don't have a favorite -- but I like that she endeavors to persevere.

[jillan]

111. I'm really sorry for you if you thought the 90's were bad.

I'm not saying they were perfect but they sure were a helluva alot better than the 80's and the last 8 years.