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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:57 PM
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IT'S DOWN TO 8 POINTS !!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 11:59 PM by DerekJ
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
1,222,919 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
1,027,315 45.7%


54 - 46 WOHOOO



http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/


Edit: It might go back up .. but as of now State site is ahead of CNN
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:58 PM
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1. Weird, CNN has Clinton's total at 1,239,424
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:58 PM
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2. Glad to see that! Some good news before I rest!
Obama supporters! Starting tomorrow let us work hard for an Obama win in Indiana!!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:59 PM
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3. Ummm...Sweetie?
CNN Has 1,238,803 (55%) for Hillary Clinton

1,023,350 for Obama...

Call it a night?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:59 PM
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4. Sexist. nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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12. Umm....
Yeah...they are. Shame on THEM.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM
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5. State site is ahead of CNN right now
And only my wife is allowed to call me sweetie :)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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11. No, its not that the State site is ahead, its that they are fundamentally different.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM
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6. The state's website has more votes for Obama though
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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13. Yeah, CNN must be ahead of the curve. Amazing that Obama lost votes
over time, though.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:03 AM
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23. He has just the personality to do that...
Change and all...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:03 AM
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25. aint that funny
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:26 AM
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46. Oh... Pookie ??? - CNN Doesn't Have The Latest Numbers !!!
Maybe you ought to check out the OP's link and find out what really happening?

:shrug:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:27 AM
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47. Darling....
I am fine where I stand. Thanks for your concern!
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM
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7. CNN and MSNBC have different numbers. They have Obama with less and Hillary with more.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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10. Figures.....
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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18. They are establishment forces, right?
:rofl:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:10 AM
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36. Dang them!
:shrug:

What exactly was the reaction that you were hoping for?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM
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8. Those are old numbers that MSNBC is showing.... It is 10% w/ 99% in.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM by kerry-is-my-prez
Switch to CNN. MSNBC is a repeat.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:00 AM
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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14. Say Goodbye troll
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:16 AM
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40. That was a fast delivery.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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16. You will last long.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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17. Hi Freeper.... I didn't know RW math meant that 8.6 = 10
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gort6 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:02 AM
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21. look at it now, she's up by 10!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:04 AM
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27. Um... no.... I'm LOOKING at it now.... on the official PA state web site....
....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:06 AM
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:07 AM
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The OFFICIAL count comes from the PA State Dept... *NOT* CNN....
...the OFFICIAL count is under 9%.


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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:42 AM
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55. No shit! You would think the Hillbots would WANT the official numbers, not the media spin.
On the other hand, Ed Rendell's nuumbers vs Wolf Blitzer's.... How can we be sure either of them is right? :crazy:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:58 AM
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69. correct.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:08 AM
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35. Remedial math for freepers, lesson 1: 54.3 - 45.7 = 8.6
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:08 AM
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71. which you would round up to 9, not down to 8... i will still take it.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:18 AM
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66. They just can't handle the truth. (eom)
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:02 AM
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19. Ooh... Hussein. Come up with that on your own?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:02 AM
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20. disgusting
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:03 AM
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22. Buh-bye...
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:03 AM
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24. You are in the wrong site
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:06 AM
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30. byebye
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 AM
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42. wow, its really too bad your stay will be short with us
oh wait, no it isnt.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:01 AM
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15. Thanks for the good news nightcap!
8 pts. is not quite enough for the Hillster.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:03 AM
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26. So she's losing by 12?
That's wayyy more than I expected.

:woohoo:

NGU.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:05 AM
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:05 AM
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29. CyberPieHole!
:hi:

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:07 AM
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34. Pound. ...that....square.. .peg....no, not round....noooo
She didn't hit 10, my friend. She had 54.-something.

That's not ten. That's not double-digits. Any first-grader can tell you that.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:06 AM
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32. with 98.79% = 54.3% 45.7%
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:06 AM
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33. hopefully they will report the correct spread % tomorrow morning.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 12:07 AM by mystieus
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
1,222,919 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
1,027,315 45.7%


CNN:

Clinton
1,239,548 55%
Obama
1,023,516 45%
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:13 AM
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37. A loss is a loss.
It was'nt supposed to be this much of a blow-out after all the "polling" the last few weeks. She won, get used to it.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:17 AM
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41. C'mon, Wellstone
SUSA said it was 18 points 10 days ago. Wha'appen?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:30 AM
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48. PPP had it the other way.
What happened there? It cuts both ways.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:34 AM
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50. SUSA is by far
The most reliable. Look it up, Wellstone. PPP stands for Piss Poor Polling.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:36 AM
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52. I understand that.
That is why the polling means nothing of substance until the election results are in.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:38 AM
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53. So, where does this go, Wellstone?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:12 AM
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62. All the way to Denver.
The big Mo is going towards her, regardless of hopes or dreams, this is'nt going away. She is in it till the end. The volitility of the polling shows me a trend that has developed the last 3 key wins for her.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:40 AM
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63. what happens to her mo
When he wins NC by 15-20?

Or is the fact that NC is a state that favors him, and PA is a state that favors her, and there really is no mo. Just different voters.
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:57 AM
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68. Well..
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:19 AM
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43. lowbout
b.
l.
o.
w.
o.
u.
t.

not supposed to be this much of a "blowout," except where obama himself said, and supporters here all month have been saying, that obama would likely lose PA?

the polling.

the ones that said she would win by, like, 25%? the ones that dropped to...ten...per...cent?

is this sarcasm? forgive me if i'm missing it- i'm actually quite sarcasmically correct most of the time. but haven't had much sleep in the last 24 hours.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:31 AM
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49. I am not sure of your question.
Explain it a little clearer for me.
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:35 AM
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51. nevermind
i read your posts elsewhere and figured you're sincere on the "unexpected" "blowout"/weird polls thing. no further questions.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:21 AM
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45. It wasn't a blow-out, though I understand your need to seize any small victory.
They've come so few and far between for the inveterate liar.

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:14 AM
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38. why won't the networks fix their numbers?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:39 AM
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54. What do you mean why WON'T they fix them. They ARE fixing them.
They want the double-digits as much as Clinton.
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:15 AM
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39. i don't know what you're getting at...
i mean, clinton actually has a triple digit lead,

8 (that's one) . (that's two) 6 {three)- see?

in fact, this win is SO huge that clinton now has OVER the required numbers. 2025 huh? well, she now has 8.6- that's eightpointsixeleventy. no candidate in history has ever netted a number like that. she's unstoppable and super-duper electable.

get over yourselves obamaniacs. she is the best evar!!!
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:20 AM
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44. CNN will probably just stop updating the site. nt
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:43 AM
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56. It will end up being a 9% Clinton win.
Right now, according to CNN, she has 54.7% to his 45.3% (they round up for her). Just about all the precincts left will go for Obama, so it should end up being right about 9%. Hopefully he'll be at 45.6 and she'll be at 54.4, so the rounding will make people think Obama came within 8 points.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:44 AM
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58. Right, but they won't round if it doesn't advantage Clinton. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:44 AM
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59. Cool!
Weird how CNN and MSBNC stay stuck at 10%. Almost eery.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:43 AM
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57. Aww shoot... I guess I'll stay up a little longer ... this is getting good.
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:57 AM
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60. Well, maybe by 9 points...
You had:

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
1,222,919 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
1,027,315 45.7%

This was my latest calculation.

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
1,249,577 (54.7%)
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
1,034,686 (45.3%)

No matter how you cut it, if double digits + was required, to appear to be viable, it didn't, it won't, happen. You can believe the MSM or you can do your own calcs. Gaining 20+ points in the last couple of months was a feat unto itself.

And, by my calcs, there is not way Hillary can win...unless she bribes the "super" delegates. But please, do donate to her campaign. I want my colleges in California to be paid their past due bills...way past due. And please, no more BS about being outspent...the people paid for his campaign with small donations. Shall we compare the Clinton's bank account with that of the Obama's?

Barack Obama will never lag behind Hillary in pledged delegates...nor the popular vote.



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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:06 AM
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61. The NY Times has similar numbers, and basically all the uncounted votes left
are in counties that went for Obama. So it should end up being about a 9.0% win for Clinton. And I said above, hopefully it will be O-45.6%, C-54.4%, so with the rounding people will think she only won by 8.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:57 AM
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64. Damn, even DELCO went for Barack! Help me congratulate these counties:
:woohoo:

I'd like to welcome the following counties into the "YES.WE.CAN" club:

Chester :applause: Delware :patriot: Philadelphia :toast: LANCASTER :bounce: (who knew you had it in you??)

Dauphin :hi: Centre :thumbsup: Union :smoke:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:18 AM
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67. Yay, for them!
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:13 AM
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65. Has any of the major news networks updated the primary results to the official website?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:05 AM
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70. It looks like it'll end under 10 points
so no double digits for Sen. Clinton!

David
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