CNN: Pennsylvania College Graduates went to Clinton 51% to 49%

[ShaneGR]

That's a problem for the Obama campaign.

[anonymous171]

1. Because McCain is extremely competitive with the college vote.

[rocktivity]

2. A two-point margin is not news

it's a wash...

:eyes:
rocknation

[scheming daemons]

3. Why? the 49% of college grads who voted for Hillary will go to McCain?

[GarbagemanLB]

4. AAs: 92 to 8 for Obama. That is a problem for the Clinton campaign.

[Beacool]

6. Nope, the black vote is only 13% nationally.

There are actually more hispanics (15%) than AA in the country and she wins their votes by a majority.

A bigger problem for Obama is that he's not getting the working class voters.

[johnnydrama]

8. 13% is

13% of voters is what, 16 million? 18 million?

If she loses 15% of the black voters, that's over 2 million. You think she can just give up 2 million votes and expect to win anywhere?

This is of course, believing that anything that happens in the primaries has anything to do with the GE, which it doesn't.

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[johnnydrama]

13. nope

I'm saying, that it's just as ridiculous as saying some particular Hillary voters won't vote for Obama.

You didn't read the thread. This is the primary. Who votes for who in the Democratic primary has nothing to do with who will vote for the Democrat in the GE. And it's like that for both Democrats.

[Beacool]

29. You're correct.

The primaries are never the same as the GE.

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[XemaSab]

14. Hate to bust in here with facts

If the national black population is about 13%, and roughly half the country votes democratic in elections, and virtually ALL black people vote democratic, then ONE IN FOUR DEMOCRATS IS BLACK.

Any way you spin it, one in four is a LARGE percent of our base.

[aquart]

9. 92% of the African American vote to Obama?

No racism in that choice, LOL!

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[aquart]

15. LOLOLOLOL!

You're actually denying that a 92% black vote for a black man is based on race! LOLOLOLOL!

Mostly, you Obama worshippers are creepy, but sometimes you're just funny.

[Hola]

25. Clinton

Bill Clinton got 92% of the AA vote in the GE, Gore got 90%. So Obama's 92% is not out of line for a dem primary.

[Spider Jerusalem]

21. Hypocrite, much?

You have admitted that gender plays a significant role in your support for Senator Clinton, as she is the first viable female candidate for the presidency. If African-American voters are racists for supporting the first viable black candidate for the presidency, then you are ipso facto a sexist by your own criterion. You can't make the argument 'my identity politics are good, theirs are bad' without looking stupid.

[JoFerret]

28. Why do they vote for him in such high numbers?

Kind of like "What's the matter with Kansas" to me.

[Aloha Spirit]

5. Almost right.... Obama got the college vote 51/49

[Zynx]

22. Effectively split either way. Well within sampling error.

[Blue_Roses]

7. this is a very conservative state

I know some who live in State College. Yep, not surprised.

[ruby slippers]

17. according to the map, Obama won in....

the State College area....

[Eurobabe]

10. Only 2%?

:eyes:

[ruby slippers]

16. no it's not.....

there aren't that many "college graduates" in PA. It's PA, remember? That is why they are still living there. They aren't educated enough to leave yet......

[NewHampshireDem]

18. Could be wrong ... NYT says otherwise

http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/PA.html

% of D Voters C O
21 College graduate 46 53
26 Postgraduate study 48 52

Problem? I don't see a problem here.

Sorry about the crap formatting, but I can't get it to layout nicely. :(

[Spider Jerusalem]

23. Plain text formatting fixes that. It's the proportional font that's screwing up the formatting.

Like this:
% of D Voters                    C   O
21              College graduate 46 53
26            Postgraduate study 48 52

[NewHampshireDem]

24. Rock on!

Thanks for that. I wish there was some kind of standard for message boards so they all used the same tricks. :grr:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. That's a sign they stole the election in PA. nt

[Stevepol]

26. There's no way to know what the %s really are, absolutely no way.

85% of the vote in PA is counted on voting machines without even any paper to verify the vote shd there be a need to do so.

These %s are pure speculation based on pure speculation. There are no underlying facts to base it on.

HRC might have won by 20%, but she might also have lost by 20%.

The nearest approximation of the results would be exit polls if there are any and if they are being done without adjusting them as the vote proceeds to fit the supposed real result.

In order to speculate about this, you have to be in a democracy.

When the vote is counted in secrecy without verification, it's impossible to have a democracy.

[JoFerret]

27. That seems to be counter

to the usual story of the more affluent and better educated going for Obama.

[WA98296]

30. Well that would be proof of tampering