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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:21 AM
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Are certain Precincts being held up to give the Illusion of a double-digit Hillary victory?
Here is a link to the CBS PA County Vote totals:
http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2008/county.shtml?state=PA&race=P&jurisdiction=0&party=D

According to these results, there are 71 outstanding precincts.
69 of them just happen to be in Obama Counties.

19 in Chester which Obama won 55-45
10 in Delaware which Obama won 55-45
and 40 in Philadelphia which Obama won 65-35

Who do you think will be gaining ground for the rest of the night?

There will be no Double Digit lead for Hillary in the morning.

The question is, "Why was America left to go to sleep believing that this was the case?"
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:22 AM
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1. Probably not.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:23 AM
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2. CNN still hasn't admitted that Obama won Texas so...
of course

when the tallies favor Clinton the people have SPOKEN

when the tallies favor Obama it's just "math"
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:24 AM
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3. "There's got to be a morning after ..."
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:25 AM by NanceGreggs
And for some, it won't be pretty ...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:20 PM
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22. LOL! My brain does that, too.
:)
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:25 AM
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4. Yes, and Hillary and Obama are simply just a figment of your imagination
Its all Illusions created by the Matrix
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:25 AM
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5. Yep.
That's the plan.

But the time they are release, all of the newspapers will already be printed.

That's how propaganda works.

And then all of the good Germans will go along with it.

That's why Obama's 1984 ad was so powerful, cause that is exactly what this is like.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:28 AM
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6. Yeah, I noticed that, too
It'll be fun to see the total tomorrow and then the sad realization that the net delegate gain was pretty skimpy for camp Hillary. Then the super D's will start to move, too.:D

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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:37 AM
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7. Looks like 8 to me!
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 02:40 AM by ClayZ
And still counting!

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
1,232,401 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
1,039,024 45.7%


K and R
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:38 AM
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8. There hasn't been a double-digit lead for Clinton at any point. She hasn't broken 55%
once that I've seen.
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:15 AM
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11. I agree. Not once.
I've been watching the numbers at the PA SoS site all night, too.

The MSM began spinning this into a 10 pt. lead for Hillary early on, and they never let up. You could practically see them drooling over the idea of yet another (albeit manufactured) reason to continue to drag this race on and on and on and on... $$$$$ clicking in their eyes.

So, the vast majority of Americans (those paying attention to this race anyhow) turned off the TV and went to bed tonight thinking that Hillary had a 10 pt. lead over Obama. And they will continue to think this, because they will never hear anything else, even if it goes down to 8 pts. overnight. It might be mentioned briefly somewhere, but they won't hear it, just like they never heard that Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11, or that Iraq had no WMDs. This meme was pushed relentlessly throughout prime-time and that will simply be that for most people.

I got so pissed off I had to just turn the TV off. It was all lies and propaganda spin at that point anyhow, so I figured I wasn't going to miss anything important.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:40 AM
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9. She'll be held to 9%
and tomorrow the SDs will come out and end this fucking disaster. Time to move on to GE strategy.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:49 AM
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10. In California there were over 600K vote still "uncertified" for TWO MONTHS
They have been certified now, but it took forever..and that's a pretty big number..
1/3 of the state voted before they even knew who Obama was, so HRC prevailed ...but those 600K votes worried me for a long time.. they were from MY county...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:35 AM
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12. I'll keep this thread kicked until you get the results you desire.
:boring:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:25 PM
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13. thanks
It's funny how Hillarites are only concerned with appearances and not truth.
You will gladly ignore the numbers to run around shouting "Big Hugh Double-digit Victory!"

Your joy will be short-lived.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:44 PM
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14. Here's that kick I promised you.
;-)
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:53 PM
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15. will you do this all day?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:04 PM
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16. Why not? You don't seem to mind the embarrassment.
;-)
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:12 PM
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18. the truth is only embarrassing to Hillarites.
they run from it like cockroaches under a bright light.

are you of the opinion that <10 is double digits?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:19 PM
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21. The media seems to have bought, and is selling the double digit win. Of
course, those who choose to dwell within the comfortable confines of Obama's DU echo chamber, will continue to believe otherwise.

Meanwhile, another kick. :kick:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:55 PM
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24. so what is more important, the appearance or the truth?
I have found this to be a defining characteristic of Hillarites.

You do not care about what is true, only about what gives you an advantage.
You do not care if voters base their decisions on the facts, only that Hillary wins.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:35 PM
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25. As Oakland Raider owner, Al Davis would say "Just win baby".
;-)Aaaaaaaand :kick:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:57 PM
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29. We've learned a lot.
:kick:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:30 PM
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31. Stay in the real world and you'll learn even more.(eom)
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:06 PM
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30. so you refuse the facts?
If you are so interested in "Just winning", why are you so attached to a Loser?

I will bet you a $50 DU donation that Hillary will not be the nominee.
Care to take me up on this? I have yet to find a Hillarite with the faith in their candidate to do so.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:36 PM
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32. Donate that fifty to your guy so he can continue to spend millions in "double digits".
:think:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:54 PM
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34. so you don't truly think your gal has a shot, do you?
why continue the charade then?
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:08 PM
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17. This process was rigged from the beginning anyway
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:14 PM
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19. Nah, there were some problems in Philly
People were turned away from the polls unjustly in a few South Philly precincts, and were told they could not vote provisionally because there were no provisional ballots available. We had people out there trying to educate voters and explain to them that they could write their vote on a piece of paper...sounds kind of sketchy to me. I don't know the entire story, but I know that when I got back from canvassing at 7:30 they were in voter protection crisis mode.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:19 PM
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20. You know what I don't get - is every damn election we hear the SAME
thing - not enough or bad machine in the inner cities. Why oh why, doesn't anyone
check this out before the election?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:21 PM
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23. For the same reason that Republicans win on the backs of urban black voters
and not in Beverly Hills. Power deficit.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:38 PM
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26. But don't the election officials ? SOS's? plan the elections? Surely
there's got to be some Dems there that would make sure enough
machines were out there. I remember in Ohio it was a big
scam - by Repukes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:53 PM
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27. They apply their attention and resources to the squeaky
privileged wheel, unfortunately.

And that's why we can never, ever rely on politicians or even on elected officials to secure our elections. :shrug:
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:48 PM
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33. I hear you. It just breaks my heart that we keep losing so many
potential votes. I'm having bad flashbacks of Cleveland 04 and the people waiting in line
all day.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 04:12 PM
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36. There was a riot at the State House that was not reported by the NYTs.
I know.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:25 PM
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37. what state house? PA or OH
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:51 PM
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38. OH. n/t
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:55 PM
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28. With Rendell in charge, anything is possible. n/t
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 03:57 PM
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35. Yea!
and did you hear that the govt knew about Pearl Harbor in advance????

:tinfoilhat:
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