Check this out! CNN has a totally different count than the State of PA. Obama has more votes

[John Q. Citizen]

at the PA state site than at the CNN sight and Hill has many more at the CNN site than at the State site. How can that be?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=27

[Aloha Spirit]

1. State results are off by 13,000 votes in Lancaster County. CNN is more likely correct total.

Sorry to disappoint!
You can go here
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/23/1217/63269/68/501315
and search for "lancaster" and follow the discussion of why the state total gives Obama 13,000 too many votes in Lancaster.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. I'm not disappointed at all. Read what your link says...From your link -

98.91% precincts reporting.

Vote% Dels
Clinton 54.3 52
Obama 45.7 46
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/23/1217/63269/68/501315


That's an 8.6 percent margin, which we can round up to 9 percent. If it drops a few points lower, then it can be rounded down to 8 percent which was the consensus results.

Not that it really changes much, but the semantics are clearly important. It's less impressive to brag about her 8-point victory than "double-digit" lead. And, given her Ohio results, it proves that Clinton is losing ground to Obama among her core constituencies while he holds on to his own.

Update: On the delegate front, Clinton has picked up just 11 delegates so far, not that anyone is counting anymore. Rieux called it a night before district 7 was updated, but that's coming in 50-50. Noting yet from district 6, which will probably break even or, best case for Clinton, net her a single delegate. So the delegate haul was marginal for Clinton.

Update II: Rieux hadn't called it a night. The delegate spread is now just +10 for Clinton. Two districts are close enough that Obama might pull in an extra delegate in each, while another is just inches from giving Clinton another delegate. So as things stand, we're looking at an 8-11 gain for Clinton

[Aloha Spirit]

4. If you follow the discussion about Lancaster, it will be more clear...

The state erred in Lancaster county, giving Obama an extra 13,000 votes.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. Except that CNN has Obama at 1,040,312 and the state has him at 1,039,151

That doesn't jibe with what the poster said if you wantr to make the argument that CNN is somehow more correct.

CNN has 23000 more vote for Clinton listed.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=27
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

[ruby slippers]

2. amazing

It seems so amazing that Obama won just a few areas but had over 1,000,000 votes!!!!

Now, if he could win those same areas, plus gain some more that were Hillary strongholds, wouldn't it be inevitable that he would outvote McCain in the GE?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA Check the map!