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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:34 AM
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*** 99.34% Reporting *** PA 8.6% win = NPR & M$M 10% = Media LIES!!
Maybe 8.60% is 10% to a moran,
but I expect accuracy in the news!!

Oh, I guess I forgot, the M$M is for Morans.
But, why is NPR playing the same script?

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http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=27

President of the United States

Votes: 2,946,370 % ALL %

Clinton 1,237,696 0.420 54.30%
Obama 1,043,174 0.354 45.70%
_________ 8.60%
2,155,165 73.15%

Huckabee 89,957 0.031 11.40%
J. McCain 575,543 0.195 72.70%
Ron Paul 125,705 0.043 15.90%
_______
791,205 26.85%

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How about those R stats!! :rofl: Nice show at 25% LOL








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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:36 AM
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:39 AM
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3. Moran
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:39 AM
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4. Welcome to DU. We have some new vocabulary here, thanks to IQs like this.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:38 AM
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2. Lancaster County is fucked on that site, Obama got 13,000 too many votes there
Just look at the results from the other Dem races. Right now you have to trust the MSM that it is a 9.4% margin of victory
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:45 AM
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10. Do you have a link? I can't find any source stating problem
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:46 AM
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12. Here
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 09:54 AM by bobbert
http://66.216.166.82/PubICE/default.asp?Category=VotesLC&Service=Totals&O=0845&Prty=Dem&Cat=F%20%20%20%20&ret=menu&rcat=F

This is the page you get when you follow links on the lancaster county website.

start here: http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/lanco/cwp/view.asp?a=564&q=411897

edit: PA website now matches lancaster's numbers at 10:53 Eastern
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:06 AM
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21. A little confused. Is this now correct numbers? link
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:10 AM
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22. By Hillary's POV, he got about a million too many votes.
Doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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5. L., Do you know # of PROVISIONALS caste?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 AM
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13. No. I have heard some things on the Exit Poll front.
Got an e-mail from an "election reform activist" with a new "theory" of why the exit polls are accurate. Goes like this, more or less:

They cheat on the demographics of the initial estimate released,
so they could adjust the final figures to comply to the vote.

In other words, there is a conspiracy afloat to make sure the initial EP numbers, the raw numbers,
will fit the vote when they are adjusted for voter demographic composition. That conspiracy
involves falsely reporting the composition of the voters replying to the EP so it can be changed a certain way.

This wording is off the top of my head, and I hope the point is clear.
It seems a real stretch, trying to make reality conform to belief!!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:40 AM
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6. I heard that that site has an error on it. I wish someone of authority
could explain the discrepancy between CNN numbers and the SoS PA numbers. Still even with CNN numbers, we have a rounding problem.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:41 AM
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7. Hello yes I'm recommending this, I've refreshed Pa BOE page often today to make sure those numbers
are right and indeed they are.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:42 AM
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8. NPR = National Petroleum Radio
Listen to the ads on NPR.

NPR is right wing with Connecticut accent.

They put just enough "progressive" sounding topics on the shows
to mislead people into thinking its a progressive show.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:43 AM
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9. While it is utterly wrong for MSM to tout "Double Digit"...
victory, they will continue to do it, to admit they jumped the gun would mean admitting a mistake - besides, they've already got their double-digit talking points. But, to "round it" like they did all night, it's really:

54% - 46% = 8% victory



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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:46 AM
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11. Take a breath...
they are only rounding it out....WHICH IS WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO REGARDLESS OF WHO IS WINNING OR LOSING. Do you expect special exceptions regarding Obama?

But thanks for the humor: "...I expect accuracy in the news." I had a good laugh over this one...LOL!!!!!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 AM
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14. I was never good at math but
how do you round 8.6 to 10? If your bill came to $8.60 and you gave me $10, you would probably be expecting change. No?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:56 AM
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18. IF "they are only rounding it out" to the nearest 10% it is not a LIE, if you say "about 10%"
I'm not being partisan in the primary. I'm just watching our great candidates and enjoying the campaign.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:51 AM
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15. LOL. This reminds me of Bloomberg getting stuck at 19%....
... when he ran for reelect as NYC mayor in '05 ( with the help of 70 million dollars and a contrived subway terrorist non-plot). The media ( eternally grateful for the infusion of the 70 m., no doubt) couldn't quite bring themselves to say "19%" ... they just flat out lied and said 20.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:53 AM
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16. NPR's Diane Rheam just stated it is 8.__%. She repeated it.nt
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:54 AM
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17. 99.44% is at 9.2% now - but still not 10% although it is getting closer now. Link.......
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=27&OfficeID=1

2008 General Primary
Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Unofficial Returns
*** 9,212 out of 9,264 Districts (99.44%) Reporting Statewide ***

President of the United States


Democratic Primary

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)

1,029,672 45.4%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)

1,237,696 54.6%
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:58 AM
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19. They changed their Lancaster County results, that's the jump.
The last 40 outstanding counties are Philly. They'll push it back in Obama's direction marginally, it'll end at 9%.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:16 AM
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23. Good thanks! I sent an email to the radio jocks - hope they read them!!!!
:hi:
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:19 AM
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26. Ed Schultz just read my email on air - someone else my have sent one also!
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 11:19 AM by 1776Forever
Hope it comes back to 8.2%!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:00 AM
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20. The ONLY change, they took 13,502 votes away from Obama total. = 9.20%
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:23 AM
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24. The count published on ABC
HRC 1,258,245 = 54.69% which rounds to 55%
BO 1,042,573 = 45.32% which rounds to 45%

The margin is 9.37%

http://abcnews.go.com/politics
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:01 AM
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25. PA site rounding too. Now actually 54.59% vs. 45.41% = 9.17%

1,237,696 54.59%
1,029,672 45.41%
2,267,368 9.17%


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