EDIT: The state website updated it's numbers to 9.2 difference

[4themind]

was changed just now

[MadBadger]

1. The difference in 9.4

[bobbert]

2. thank you, I've already posted that in a couple of threads

edit: meant to reply to OP

[Ganja Ninja]

4. The closest thing we have to official is the unofficial count on ..

the PA Department of State's website. That says 8.6%.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

We'll have to make due with this number until we get something official and final.

[bobbert]

10. PA website now matches MSM

So hopefully now will you guys stop saying it's 8.6%?

[psychopomp]

11. It now says 9.2%

CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)

1,237,696 54.6%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)

1,029,672 45.4%

[beachmom]

3. I wish our media was better, and they would explain raw numbers

AND explain the discrepancy. Highly confusing. There IS a good chance, however, that Hillary did not win the state by double digits, but by 9% and change (UNDER .5).

[onenote]

5. kick

[mystieus]

6. Its still not 10 points

[onenote]

9. The point is that we don't know what it is yet, do we?

The media websites are using different totals that the state -- totals that are larger, meaning that either the state or the media has something wrong or that the state's total is less complete than the media's (which is not impossible, since the media may be getting their numbers directly from the counties).

In any event, using the media's number, and doing the rounding that they typically do (not special rounding created just to make this particular race come out a particular way), its 55/45 -- 10 percent.

If you use the state's numbers, and round the same way, its 54/46 -- or 8 percent.

I've seen claims on this board by HRC supporters that its 10 percent and by Obama supporters that its 8 percent. At this point, if you accept that rounding is common practice, neither is wrong, neither is right.

I don't really care other than I think the claims that there is some media conspiracy involved here are sill. The medai are doing exactly what they've done all along (get their own numbers, do their own rounding)

[mystieus]

12. And who is winning Lancaster county?

Don't be a MSM puppet.

[onenote]

14. if you're going to be insulting, could you at least be coherent?

What does who is winning in Lancaster county have to do with the fact that the media, as they have in other races, rely on numbers that don't match up with the "official" state numbers and that at this point we don't know what the accurate final result is?

[bobbert]

7. OK, here is the discrepancy, Lancaster county

Start at their county website: http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/lanco/cwp/view.asp?a=564&q=411897

click on a couple of links and you'll end up here: http://66.216.166.82/PubICE/default.asp?Category=VotesLC&Service=Totals&O=0845&Prty=Dem&Cat=F%20%20%20%20&ret=menu&rcat=F

And you will see that the MSM totals are correct, and that the PA website is giving Obama 13,000 too many votes.

[4themind]

8. Yes

and the county website also gives each individual sub-districts vote within lancaster, so I'd tend to have more faith in those numbers, but I'll still wait for the state, which will eventually ahve to certify these things, to change their numbers. I wonder who has contacted them yet about this

[L. Coyote]

13. *** 9,212 out of 9,264 Districts (99.44%) Reporting Statewide ***

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=27

The numbers are posted on my thread on this.