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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:46 AM
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R'oh! R'oh! Pushback has begun re: "double digit" win
Clinton's 'double-digit' win? Not exactly
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Posted April 23, 2008 8:29 AM
The Swamp

By Paul West

Newspaper readers and network TV viewers awoke this morning to word of Hillary Clinton's 10-percentage point victory in Pennsylvania. An obsession with her precise margin, part of the buildup by her campaign and the news media, dominated election-night coverage and was regarded as an important indicator of her resilience and Barack Obama's failure to close the sale.

Before the votes were counted in Pennsylvania, a Clinton victory in the mid single digits would be seen as good, not great, some said. Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, her leading supporter in the state, said that high single digits would be significant. But double digits was something else. A 10-point win would be "extraordinary," said Rendell.

Getting to double digits would match her primary victory in next-door Ohio last month, which she won by 10 points, and signal Obama's inability to make substantial progress despite heavy spending and six weeks of in-person campaigning.

It also sounds more impressive.

Based on nearly complete returns, however, it doesn't appear that Clinton quite got there. According to the latest Associated Press tally, with less than one percent of precincts yet to be counted (50 of 9,218 precincts), Clinton is leading Obama by 54.7 percent to 45.3 percent. That works out to a winning margin of 9.4 percent.
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http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/clintons_doubledigit_win_not_e.html
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:53 AM
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1. we can hope, but
i got a feeling that like bush taking florida, the first impression will prevail.
let's just hope the supers are not that stupid.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:55 AM
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3. The supers are not that stupid
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 10:56 AM by nichomachus
Neither are the people who donate big bucks. They are political animals. This is their life. This is their business. They can do the math in their heads -- down to five decimal places.

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:05 AM
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6. anyone heard those over night donation numbers?
it is the money primary that matters, in the end.

everybody donate a few buck to barack today, k? make sure he takes in more than she does. i gave him another $20. can you? yes, we can.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:08 AM
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8. Yes I can. And did. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:55 AM
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2. Huffington's front page is now showing an 8% victory
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:00 AM
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4. Yep, the media are workin' hard to get Hillary elected.
There's a blackout regarding the fact she's defrauded a Fred Paul in California back in 2000 - and as evidence, was caught on tape making the request while having denied even speaking to the man for 6 years now; that she's a defendent together with Bill in a major lawsuit now set to have a trial date in California's Supreme Court, and that her win is TINIER than they're reporting, even tinier than Ohio.

The media also fail to report that Obama has cut her lead in Pennsylvania IN HALF from their own predictions weeks ago.

The plan seems to be, get Obama out of the way, usurp the will the voters by convincing SDs to vote en masse for Hillary (a la SCOTUS style), and have her ass handed to her when they "suddenly discover" this pending lawsuit that would devestate her credibility with ignorant American voters.

Since most Obama supporters will NOT vote for her being they're Independent and Republicans, or smart enough not to want to support a warmongering DINO, a large chunk of pesky voters is out of the way. Then, slide li'l ol' McSenile-puppet into the WH to continue the rape of our nation.

Conspiracy theorist rantings?

Good.

Then I'm on par with the more informed Europeans who didn't buy into the American brainwashing tactics that taught Americans that conspiracy theorists should be discredited but rather, they should be taken seriously enough to at least do a little research on one's own.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:04 AM
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5. yes there will be much push back in the "fuzzy math"
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:07 AM
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7. I found it strange that the 10% figure held pretty firm from start to finish. Almost as if
the results were being adjusted to reflect that percentage no matter what came in.

Gotta love those tabulators, don't you?

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:09 AM
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9. That's the way it looked to me too~
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 11:09 AM
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10. Why would Rendell call a 10 point win "extraordinary"? She was 20 points up!
:wtf:
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