If Clinton wins twice as many votes as Obama in every remaining contest,

[Qutzupalotl]

she will still lose.

http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/

Try it yourself. Type in 67 for Clinton in every remaining contest. She'd still be behind by 10 delegates.

She won't get anywhere near that, of course. I doubt she'll get above 60 in any upcoming elections. And she can't win North Carolina or Oregon. So she can't claim a lot of momentum. All she can do is get Bill to strongarm the superdelegates.

[Qutzupalotl]

1. --We're talking pledged delegates, of course. nt

[roguevalley]

16. from huffingtonpost

Pledged Delegates. By CNN's count, Clinton netted about 14 pledged delegates in Pennsylvania. That still leaves Obama up by 151 pledged delegates. It is likely that after Guam, Indiana and North Carolina, there will be no net change in pledged delegates, even if Clinton wins Indiana, since Obama will certainly pick up delegates in North Carolina. But at that point only 251 pledged delegates will remain to be chosen.

Even if she got 80% of all of the pledged delegates that remain after Indiana, she would still trail Obama at the end of the day.>>

[anonymous171]

2. Again, Hillary doesn't believe in Delegates.

Unless they are super.

[ScarletSniper]

3. I think Chuck Todd said she needs win like 80% in the remaining contests...she ain't gonna do it

[cascadiance]

13. Even if she has a 50/50 split with NC and OR, she'd then need 82% every place else!

And we know that Obama's likely to win more delegates at least in NC than that.

82% every place else? She's completely f'in dreamin' about getting a pledged delegate win. And any other way she uses to become the nominee will convert the Democratic Party into the "Antidemocratic Party" for the average voter who sees her as stealing the nomination from the will of the Democratic constituency.

[rinsd]

4. Umm if she wins like that and is only 10 delegates away, she will be the nominee.

Not that I think that is a likely scenario but there is no way they Democrats have a nominee who got blown out in the final stretch.

[Qutzupalotl]

9. Granted, but we're speaking hypothetically.

My point is she won't average anywhere near 67 in the upcoming contests.

[AndyA]

5. I think the bigger point here is that NEITHER Clinton nor Obama are

overwhelming the Democratic voters. NEITHER of them are outstanding in any way.

The problems are much bigger, and go much deeper than just who gets the most votes from this point forward. The Democratic Party is divided, which is great for the GOP.

It doesn't matter at this point who the nominee is, both are second best choices. And because of this, I fear we'll have John and Cindy in the White House come January 2009. :(

[tabatha]

6. Or maybe they are both very good

so it is difficult to choose between them.

[Labors of Hercules]

11. DING DING DING.

They are both perceived as very good, but by very different groups of people.

[AndyA]

15. Both of them have too many negatives.

And with the M$M on the GOP's side, we can be certain our nominee will be the one getting pounded with negative coverage.

And from what I've been hearing, McCain is now a pretty strong contender for the White House. Not sure how that happened, but it has. A year ago, no one thought he stood a chance. Remind you of George Bush circa 1999?

[gsaguyCLW54]

8. Nonsense...somewhat.

Clinton wins votes that Obama will not win. Most of Obama's voters will support Clinton in the general. The demographics of the Obama voters clearly support this.

[gsaguyCLW54]

7. and guess what else, Obama cant win in November.

[Qutzupalotl]

10. Not if you can help it, eh?

Enjoy your stay.

[redqueen]

12. Welcome to DU, troll!

[XemaSab]

14. That's getting into Obama margins of victory!

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