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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:52 PM
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You are the Obama or Clinton Campaign, What is your Strategy from here on out to win the Nomination?
Doesnt matter what you think is fair and what you dont think is fair, but what do you think is the best strategy for either of them to take from here on out to get the nomination?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:55 PM
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1. If Im Obama, I'm going to shy away from townhalls and go back to giving speeches in front of crowds
Big crowds like those filling up arenas or the one in Philly. Its a good way to make local headlines.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:56 PM
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2. Obama has won, needs to claim it
And needs to start focusing on the working voters as much as he does the young people. His ads in Oregon aren't targeted to women or older people, that's why he isn't getting their vote.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:58 PM
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3. I dont think ads are the issue. I think one of the most overrated things is money in this campaign
The only ads that seem to have any effect are controversial/negative ones, which Obama will not do.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:15 PM
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8. That's not true
And I can see you are going to be the kind of DUer who helped Kerry's swiftboaters in 2004, maybe you did and I don't remember. Maybe you're just a disruptor. But people listen to all kinds of ads, if you've properly introduced yourself to people, it would take an enormous amount of dirt to change their minds. He isn't reaching out to older voters early, that's the problem. He's got to do it now before the Republicans get at him.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:18 PM
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10. Well that was quite a charge you just made against me
I think the ads are overrated this far into the primary. I'm n ot talking about the general, just the primary. I think ads can work to his favor for the GE, but when it comes to winning the primary, I dont think the ads will work very much.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:59 PM
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4. Obama campaign just needs to keep doing what it's doing - Run out the clock and not screw up
Clinton campaign needs to start sacrificing chickens and goats to the election gods.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:01 PM
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5. But he has screwed up, so he shouldnt keep doing what hes doing.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:10 PM
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6. Everybody screws up - He just needs to avoid major disasters n/t
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:15 PM
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7. He needs to stop these screw ups.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:24 PM
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13. What screw ups?
I think he made a resounding showing last night.

The only things he's done that I consider screw ups are when he goes negative.

Honestly, what screw ups are you guys talking about?

Note - not saying he's perfect and everybody DOES screw up (and will continue to), but I'm just unclear what you're referring to.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:30 PM
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17. Let me explain what I meant by screw ups
What he needs to do again is start winning the news cycles. I remember when it was a given that he would, and now, not so much. One thing that it is sad he has to do is be less honest in certain circumstances. While his bitter comments were right on, it was a screw up that could have been avoided if he remembered that he was running for President and anything he says can and will be used against him. I think that was a learning experience for him with tthat. Then there is the debate. Sure it was complete bullshit, but Obama didnt respond all that well to the complete and utter bullshit. He needs to learn to respond to the complete bullshit a little better, and not get down or flustered. Late deciders went to Clinton 60-40. I'm willing to bet that most of it was because of the debate.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:27 PM
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20. Okay - thanks for the clarification. nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:39 PM
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18. Obama got his "magic number" of 45% of the vote in PA
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:43 PM by rocknation
which prevented Hillary from getting the 65% she needed, raised her magic number to 68% (in ALL the remaining contests if she wants enough delegates to sucessfully appeal to the superdelegates) and bit a big chunk out of her campaign coffers. Not a bad night's work at all.

:headbang:
rocknation
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:16 PM
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9. Obama's Strategy
needs to be more aggressive. His attacks need to be quick and devastating to Clinton. Bring up her mediocre performance as a NY Senator. Bring up the list of what she promised NYers and never delivered on (it's a long list, believe me!).See below:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5469728
Go after the hate that the Reps feel for Ol' Bill. Remind the Dems that the Reps would never vote for Bill's wife (of course this has to be put with a bit more finesse than I just did). Bring up the scandal ridden Clinton White House. Also hint that she's a warmonger and looking to nuke Iran so she's exactly like a Republican.

Give another big speech about the economy and your brilliant idea for the new Federal Housing Administration Housing Security Program. Bring Robert Reich, Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker and other influential economists to the fore in your campaign.
Speak more plainly and less like a theorist or sociologist to the crowds. Some Americans are stupid enough to fall for Hillary's BS, so remember that you have to keep it simple.
Lastly, don't be afraid to bring out Nunn, Boren and General McPeak to speak on the war and quell the false assumption a lot of Dems have that Hillary is the stronger "war candidate".

Standing shoulder to shoulder with these strong and influential people will give the voters the proper feel for what kind of a winning and capable team you would be constructing as Commander in Chief.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:20 PM
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11. I agree with some of what you said
I dont think he should attack for NY record, because his record in IL isnt that big. I dont think he should go after the scandals in the Clinton administration, but still bring up her high negatives and the hatred the right has for her. I think bringing up her Sabre-rattling with Iran is a must.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:22 PM
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12. The most fertile ground lies in taking on McCain.
Obama's win over Hillary is very close, and it's safe for him to begin behaving like McCain is his opponent, rather than Hillary. The GOP is already acting like Obama is their opponent, and if Obama engages the media will pick this up as a fresh horserace to drool over. Hillary will be left on the sidelines.

If I was the Clinton campaign, I'd do the same. They've exhausted their attacks on Obama and it's now working against them. If she thinks she should be the nominee and wants to convince the supers, her only hope is to start acting like it.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:24 PM
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14. My thoughts for both
Obama campaign: Continue fundraising pace. Must win in NC and must do it by a good margin. Then he can make a push for the Supers to end it.

Clinton Campaign: Need to get fundraising up to speed, must win in NC & IN in convincing fashion, needs to start picking off Supers delegates.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:26 PM
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15. Obama needs to behave like he's the nominee (which he is).
Ignore Hillary, continue with his message and go after McCain.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 01:29 PM
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16. Obama: Win North Carolina. Get at least 42% of Indiana. Game over.
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 01:31 PM by rocknation
Hillary:

Win at least 68% of the vote in Gaum.

Win at least 68% of the vote in Indiana.

Win at least 68% of the vote in North Carolina.

Win at least 68% of the vote in West Virginia.

Win at least 68% of the vote in Kentucky.

Win at least 68% of the vote in Oregon.

Win at least 68% of the vote in Puerto Rico.

Win at least 68% of the vote in Montana.

Win at least 68% of the vote in South Dakota.

Persuade superdelegates that you're more electable because your numbers are almost identical to Obama's and you can pull in more white voters. Game over.


You're welcome.

:headbang:
rocknation

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:03 PM
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19. Obama will do that and more
He's widely favored to win NC, OR, SD and MT. And he's running neck-and-neck with Hillary in IN.
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