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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:49 PM
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NO DOUBLE DIGIT WIN FOR CLINTON IN PA!
According to the latest results even linked to by the Scaife paper that is promoting her her win over Senator Obama is actually 9.2%.

Of course that doesn't matter to Clinton she has moved the post again and was planning to continue to damage our party and weaken Mr Obama anyway. And, she should give a shot out to the Republican party operatives that have been trying to frame Senator Obama and strangely have been leaving her alone. I suppose Rendell's visits to Fox News, Clinton's visits with Murdock and Scaife have paid off for her. To bad she is too vain to see that she is being used to weaken our real Democrat candidate and is assisting in swift boating him.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/|>



CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
1,238,232 54.6%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
1,030,703 45.4%
9,219 out of 9,264 Districts (99.51%) Reporting Statewide
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:51 PM
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1. WOW, losing by 9 points is a great victory for Obama!
K&R!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:59 PM
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6. He cut her lead by 11 points and was never expected to win with the Clinton-Rendell machine call out
all favors. Truth is she need large double digits to really make an inpact and she didn't do it. She lost her edge in PA.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:08 PM
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16. She had the Casey machine going against her. Guess you forgot about that.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:00 PM
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8. Considering the odds and the polling going in, he did a damned good job.
Take a 20 point lead and turning it into a less than 10 point lead in a state that demographically should have been a landslide for Clinton is excellent.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:01 PM
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11. Absolutely he did. He actually gained some older voters in Pa.
More than he did in Ohio.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:00 PM
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9. considering Hill was up by 30 points it is a good comeback by Obama
and she hardly won enough delegates out of the state to make any kind of real change. Obama will be the Democratic nominee. PA was a win for her but in two weeks Obama will be back in the winner circle.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:15 PM
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22. Uh, actually it is.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:53 PM
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2. Best reports showing her with a very thin lead of 10 delegates
Quite likely could drop to 8. That's about what he gained in Mississippi. Yeah, great win there, Hillary.

I acknowledge it was a win. Just not the earth-shatterer she needed.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:54 PM
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3. Yes!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:55 PM
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4. Congratulations Senator Obama..
you came under 10% against the one who was up 25% a month ago!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 05:58 PM
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5. 9.2 rounds to 9.
shit, even math is used to lie

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:00 PM
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7. Either that or she and the media can't count. n/t
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:08 PM
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15. Clinton Math, Regan Fuzzy Math....
Same school perhaps?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:32 PM
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30. its repug media - karl rove - math
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 PM
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32. Some people are not "smarter than a fifth grader" LOL
:-)
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:01 PM
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10. As long as she is running they will cover her, as long as they cover her
it creates the illusion that she is viable. Viscous circle.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:02 PM
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12. The party needs to get rid of her. She will never go and she is damaging our party big time.n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:16 PM
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23. She's no different than Jerry Brown in '92 or Kuicnich in '04 and she should be covered that way.
She lost and she doesn't belong in the race.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:04 PM
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13. If this were a football game, she'd be down by 28 points with less than a minute to play and
nevertheless excited because she just kicked a field goal.

This was a state where she was ahead by as much as 25% just last month.

She won by about 3% more than I anticipated, which is a nice victory, but it is her neighboring state and she had both the governor and senator pushing her like like a Texas cheerleader's mom, and it was her last, best hope for a major delegate swing and that didn't happen.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:11 PM
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18. Her last best hope for victory
That reminds me of Babylon 5. You know what happened to the other 4 Babylon stations too, don't you? They mysteriously disappeared. :shrug:


Sonia
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:05 PM
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14. Chris Matthews just said 9.2% - first talking head I heard to not say "double digits"
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:11 PM
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19. Hooray for Tweety!
He had to because his ears were burning, fire and feathers are a bad mix!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:13 PM
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20. YES HE DID! And Blitzer said "9-10%" which is different than saying, "double digits."
:bounce:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:29 PM
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26. that was sweet!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:20 PM
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27. Good for him. They shouldn't spin it as the big lead she needed to prove she was viable. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:10 PM
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17. I wrote to MSNBC AND CNN and today both Matthews and Blitzer said Hillary won by "9, 10%" and
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 06:11 PM by jenmito
Matthews actually used the figure 9.2%!
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:14 PM
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21. Nice work, Jenmito!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:21 PM
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24. Thanks! I'd like to take credit, but I'm sure others wrote in, too. But I ALSO wrote in
asking why MSNBC had TX colored in solidly for Hillary when Obama won the state due to winning most delegates, and this morning on tv the map showed TX striped!
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:33 PM
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31. I saw that jenmito
Thanks for writing in :hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:49 PM
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33. I'm glad!
No problemo! :hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:25 PM
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25. It's tough to keep up with those moving goal posts, but the MSM is giving it their best shot.
She needed at least a double-digit win, thus the MSM's reluctance to call it what it really was -
SHE FAILED.

K&R :thumbsup:
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:23 PM
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28. Is this current? CBS has her only getting 9 more delegates than Obama?
No longer at 12 gained?

http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2008/state.shtml?state=PA


Philedelphia county still a a few spots to be counted but the county went 65-35 for Obama.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:31 PM
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29. I like those numbers. That is better than the 60/40 the press was pushing. n/t
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