WSJ: BARACK OBAMA is the Democratic Nominee!!

[futureliveshere]

Daniel Henninger in the WSJ writes that there are no two ways about it, the democrats have a nominee and its Barack Obama.

Other than ensuring the Greatest Show on Earth will continue, does it matter that Hillary Clinton defeated Barack Obama Tuesday in Pennsylvania by nine-plus points? Barack Obama is the nominee.

No matter how many kicks the rest of us find in such famously fun primary states as Indiana and South Dakota, it's going to be McCain versus Obama in 2008.

I believe the cement set around the Clinton coffin last Friday. The Obama campaign announced it had received the support of former Sens. Sam Nunn of Georgia and David Boren of Oklahoma. Both are what some of us nostalgically call Serious Democrats. They represent what the party was, but is no more: sensible on national security, spending and middle-class values. Obama receiving their imprimatur is like hands reaching out from the graves of FDR, JFK and LBJ to announce: "Enough is enough. This man is your nominee. Go forth and fight with the Republicans." Make no mistake: Superdelegates with sway took notice.

Here's the main reason, good old fashioned Money and more importantly the MANNER in which Obama has raised the money. The bulk of it has come from common people like you and me. This is the biggest difference between the two camps and would define the presidency of either candidate.

Sam Nunn and David Boren by political temperament should be in her camp. Instead, they threw in with Obama, who calls his campaign "post-partisan," a ludicrous phrase. The blowback at ABC's debate makes clear that Obama is the left's man. So what did Messrs. Nunn and Boren see? The biggest event was the Clinton Abandonment. In a campaign of surprises, none has been more breathtaking than the falling away of Clinton supporters, loyalists . . . and friends. Why?

Money. Barack Obama's mystical pull on people is nice, but nice in modern politics comes after money. Once Barack proved conclusively that he could raise big-time cash, the Clintons' strongest tie to their machine began to unravel. Today he's got $42 million banked. She's got a few million north of nothing. But it's more than that. Barack Obama's Web-based fund-raising apparatus is, if one may say so, respectable. The Clintons' "donor base" has been something else.

So all Obama supporters, please continue to donate as much as you can to the campaign. This will ensure that Obama has a clear road to the White House. Eventually the MSM will also quit stirring the soup as the notion solidifies that Obama will be the democratic nominee whether the race ends now, in June or in August.

edited to add the link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120899521565139921.html?mod=todays_columnists&apl=y&r=12188

[Leopolds Ghost]

1. K/R

[SunsetDreams]

2. It's spreading in a way that can't be denied. The Math is over for Hillary!

[TragedyandHope]

3. Yes He Is

[quantass]

80. .

[quantass]

101. .

[Hillary by 10]

4. Subtitle - John McCain is President!

Looks like the republicans aren't scared of Obama after all. I don't blame them.

[futureliveshere]

5. He has beaten the Repubs at what they and the Clintons are best at: The Money Game.

Sure they are scared, but they are not blind. Unlike some other people who insist on living in a parallel dimension.

[SunsetDreams]

6. The lack of logic in your statement is breathtaking!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. In your dreams.

[Window]

12. If that be the case, please don't forget to thank Hillary.

[Name removed]

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[ScarletSniper]

26. LMAO..now that got a real chuckle out of me...

[izzybeans]

25. At least pick a less obvious username next time.

[Name removed]

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[arundhatiroyfan]

38. lol.

great picture.

[juno jones]

39. If you stay that user name will get dated fast.

However, name now, beat the rush, eh?

[papau]

53. Sadly that is a very possible result with Obama on ticket - conservative Dems endorse conservative O

and the WSJ is in heaven - as are many on DU.

The GOP can't lose if true - Obama has already stated no health care bill will be submitted - he will just look forward to congressional hearings.

The left had a chance for change with Hillary - but it may well be the Starbucks crowd's choice from the faculty lounge has to happen yet again as the Dems never learn that ignoring the "common man - below 50000 per year white" is a sure way to see "Reagan Democrats" in November.

[BlueCaliDem]

84. It's called "strategy", papau. How dumb would Obama be if he showed his hand so early in the...

...campaign? The LAST thing Obama needed was the MSM tearing him to pieces like they did with Al Gore's social security "lockbox" and other policy plans when he was voted President.

Obama is running on "change". He's running on that particular platform and if getting universal healthcare for all isn't change, I don't know what is.

Unlike Hillary's lackluster squirmish with Congress regarding her promise to present universal healthcare to Americans when campaigning for Bill's presidency - something she didn't fight half as hard for as she did for NAFTA and her dead-in-the-water candidacy - after 7 years, where's her promise? Where's the universal healthcare both she and Bill promised us?

Now she promises again? Why should we believe her after all the lies she'd so far already espoused?

Obama's smart. Very smart. He's beaten the most powerful Democrats in the United States, and EX president for god's sake! That takes moxie and a helluva lot of brains.

So you think it's such a stretch Obama would keep his policies just vague enough to keep the attack dogs at bay?

When he said he was against the IWR, he was attacked with "he wasn't even in the Senate" forgetting, of course, that just last year, Hillary voted to give Dubya authorization to launch a war against IRAN.

Between the two Democratic nominees, guess who didn't vote "yea".

As a black man and hopefully first black President of the United States, Obama knows he'll the standard by which all other black presidential candidates will be judged by.

As former First Lady and priviledged white woman and multi-millionaire, Hillary has no such burden.

For that alone, we should trust him, shouldn't we?

[rateyes]

54. Uh huh. That's why they are throwing the attack ad at Obama

in the NC PRIMARY. Seems like they believe they can beat Hillary more easily than Obama. And, the polls bear that out. For instance, in the RED state of Indiana, Obama polls 8 points higher than McCain while Hillary and McCain are tied.

Obama is going to hold the blue states, and take away several red states from the Republicans.

Welcome, President Obama.

[The Doctor.]

85. Which is why they want to run against Hillary... of course.

:hi:

[merh]

99. Like your user title reflects

your math is as bad as her campaign's math.

Could that be why she hasn't paid her debts off yet? Can she not find a mathematician to hire that will help her realize how bad her numbers truly are?

[McCamy Taylor]

7. Rupert Murdoch is choosing our president? Is this a sick and twisted joke?

:puke:

[futureliveshere]

8. and so the Bizarro logic continues.... This is cold hard facts we are talking about.

WSJ is just repeating the obvious. Something they are quite good at doing.

[DemVet]

30. And...

...Obama has reached the required 2025 delegates?

No he hasn't. He hasn't won anything yet.

[futureliveshere]

48. Thats not the point. After a stage, it becomes almost impossible for Clinton. PA was that stage.

[delt664]

60. Some people will still be saying that when Obama has 2024 delegates

Yeah, I guess theres a mathematical possibility that Hillary could win. There is also a mathematical possibility that every molecule in my body will do some quantum tunneling to the same place at the same time and I will essentially teleport home today. But I wouldnt count on it.

[DearAbby]

73. No way in hell Clinton can reach the "Magic Number"

It's over....

[Alcibiades]

87. Unless you count the slew of delegates he has won

at primaries and caucuses, which isn't exactly "nothing."

[Skwmom]

31. While trying TO FRAME Obama as not having middle class values, sensible

national security credentials, etc.

[datopbanana]

17. Rupert Murdoch is more rational than you.

Is this a sick and twisted joke?

[Skwmom]

28. Rupert Murdoch is HELPING out his good buddies the Clintons

by trying to paint Obama as nothing more than a good fundraiser. But I'm sure you already know that.

[tabasco]

76. Hahaha! No, Rupert's gal ain't gonna make it.

[jpertello]

9. Nunn & Boren

should be standing shoulder to shoulder with BO in speeches as often as possible.

[Window]

11. K/R.

:kick:

[NJmaverick]

13. That is reality. Just as it's reality that Hillary is doing NOTHING but HURT the party

as she continues her slash and burn campaign. I could see why people would still be supporting her though. Karl Rove has encouraged them to do so.

[futureliveshere]

14. More like Rusk LimpBalls

[NJmaverick]

43. Both of them, along with all the hard corp repukes want this to keep going

they are smart enough to see what so many Dems are blind to. It's how they are successful in terms of winning elections.

[futureliveshere]

75. Yes, comes from being a cut-throat neocon I guess. What a sham they all are.

[liberalcommontater]

58. I'll try to be gentle.

I know folks just write and post, but do you really think that Clinton supporters like being called racists and freepers and minions of Rove. I hope every Hillary supporter like me will vote for Obama in the fall, IF he is the nominee even if that means holding our noses and requiring years of therapy afterwards. We need to elect a Dem in November. I hope it is Hillary. IF it is Obama I'll put my seatbelt on, my crash helmet, change a few investments and take the ride. You should too if you are a dem.

BTW, do you really think Hillary has been even half as tough as she could be with Obama. The republicans will have no reason for restraint whatsoever.

Hillary is not hurting the party. Purists are.

[SavageDem]

61. Amen, bro (or sis)

I am the yang to your ying. Or Thing 1 to your Thing 2. Or ham to your egg. You get the idea.

Likewise, Obama supporters do not appreciate being called "blind", or "worshippers", "naive", or "lovestruck." I hope every Obama supporter will vote for Clinton in the fall, IF she is the nominee, even if that means holding our noses and requiring years of therapy afterwards. ;^)

I agree 1027% that we need to elect a Dem this fall, no matter what. Either one will be a exponential improvement (positive integer exponents only, please - implied by the word "improvement") over the current crooks masquerading as White House occupants.

Anyone that bites his/her nose off to spite his/her face by abstaining or voting for the Warmongering Geezer is not as much interested in the fate of this country - and world - as s/he is beholden to his/her own ego.

Editor's Note: I wish English had a singular gender-neutral pronoun. I am Mr. Inclusive Language, but it just ain't pretty...

[OHdem10]

15. WSJ knows the Left and Elites would rather lose than have HRC.

In other words they are willing to concede to John McCain President.

[SunsetDreams]

16. once again lack of logic is breathtaking

[futureliveshere]

21. Who exactly are you calling elites here? Have you seen the demographics of Obama supporters?

They are hugely diverse, yes the well educated are a big part of it. But so are the poorest.

So what are you talking about?

[juno jones]

42. OK, what exactly is your spot on the scale of slob-to-elite? Do tell.

So many middle-class here who make so much more money than I with so many more benefits are so eager to call folk 'elite' when we don't vote the way you want us to. Give it up. You can't pigeonhole anybody.

If Hil is playing this game with an eye to 2012, she's already conceded to McCain and is leaving your ass and the supreme court dangling merrily in the air.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

19. look out, sniper fire

incoming!

[my3boyz]

20. Oh I agree about the money issue. Before they would send

Bill around to raise money. Now Obama is the one that raises the most money. I'm sure they think he could help them raise a lot of money for the DNC too.

[futureliveshere]

22. The difference is in the manner of raising that money.

Obama has motivated and channelized the common person and has completely revolutionized fund raising. That process is NEVER going to be the same again and thats a powerful thing to do for a so-called 'rookie'.

Next time in 2012 he would probably be using cell-phones like he used the internet this time to retake the WH.

[Rageneau]

23. From the WSJ -- the most right-wing editorial page in America.

Surely, we Democrats want to put a lot of faith and a lot of stock in them, huh?

[futureliveshere]

24. Using THAT logic they should be ALL for Hillary. Which they are normally!!

Funny you don't notice that when op-ed after op-ed supports Hillary over Barack.

[Skwmom]

27. The WSJ is a Republican rag. The Clintons represent middle class values, sensible national security

...? Give me a break. Obama is much more than his ability to raise funds (though getting rid of the stranglehold big money had on the Democratic Party is a major achievement).

[futureliveshere]

46. Sure, he is much more than a fund-raiser. But thats the major stranglehold the Clintons had!!

Everything else fell by the wayside post Bill Clintons shenanigans in the WH. The democratic party as a whole really suffered after the Clinton presidency. I admit he started fine and his heart was in the right place. But they didnt really do much for party building or helping Gore and Kerry. What they really did well was raise funds for the party. This was their power game.

Whatever middle class values they had were burnt off loooong back.

[calmblueocean]

62. Just wondering if you think voting to go to war in Iraq was sensible.

Honestly, Hillary has become too hawkish for me. She never misses an opportunity these days to talk about "obliterating" Iran or why the president should never taking the option of nuking cities full of innocent civilians off the table.

Hillary isn't Bill. I just don't know where Hillary's head is at anymore. I wish she did represent sensible national security. I don't think she does.

[DemVet]

29. Yeah, let's let the media decide who our Candidate is. This is stupid on so many levels.

Last time I checked, Mr. Obama hadn't reached the required 2025 delegates.

[SammyWinstonJack]

37. Why not, they decided who our two front-runners would be. The better candidates were run off in

favor of these "historical election" candidates who will have a tough time in the GE. That was stupid on so many levels, too.

[futureliveshere]

41. There is a point after which one candidate can no longer overtake the other.

Thats what the stage is right now, and this will be brought home further in the next 2 weeks.

WSJ is just stating the obvious. No one is looking to them to decide who our candidate should be. The people decided that in the last so many races. The metrics speak the truth.

[madwivoter]

32. K/R

I just donated the other day and plan on donating again when our chimpy stimulus money comes in...part for Barack and part for my cc bill...that's pretty stimulating isn't it :P

[phrigndumass]

33. K+R - Obama is the presumptive nominee, Clinton is the hypothetical nominee

All she has is hypotheticals.

:hi:

[invictus]

34. K & R. GOBAMA!

[dancingme]

35. Stop posting reality

stop making sense. :-)

[ginnyinWI]

40. best reply I've seen today!

:)

(my husband is a big Dylan fan, by the way. :) )

[BigDDem]

44. Sure, why not?

According to most of the flock, he won PA so they might as well believe
he's gotten 2025.

:rofl:

[Kesaco]

45. In 2004, Howard Dean raised alot of $$ and had many

grassroot donors and well you know the story..........

[msallied]

57. He lost traction early on

That's what happened.

[ORDem]

47. Stupid question: Can donations pledged for the primary be transferred to a candidate's GE fund?

Hmmmm?

:dem:

[futureliveshere]

50. Yes they can, but they still form part of the o/a cap. Besides thats not the point.

[wowimthere]

49. The media's shifting scenarios of Clinton winning aside... It was always the Elected Delegates that

mattered. I never fell for the crap the Traditional media was blowing at us. After jumping on the Bush war bandwagon, none of them could be trusted. Keith Olberman? Yes! Bill Moyers? Yes! PBS more often than not. All the rest... spinning themselves into the toilet.

[nichomachus]

51. Just consider the source

Even before Murdoch bought it, the opinion writers at the WSJ were pretty much batshit crazy.

I'm not saying Obama won't be or shouldn't be the nominee -- just that don't get too heated up about the nonsense that emanates from the house organ of the plutocracy.

[futureliveshere]

52. Oh I agree completely. Its just that this argument is so factual and so Obvious that it gets missed.

[Kaleko]

70. No amount of spin changes the fact that in this instance,

the WSJ has reported the numbers accurately and come to the same conclusion any sane person would have to draw:

Obama is going to be the democratic nominee.

[anigbrowl]

78. I have never found the WSJ batshit crazy, though I frequently disagree with it

If you want an example of Bizarro World thinking, try reading Investor's Business Daily for a week...they make the WSJ look like Socialist Worker.

[msallied]

55. I am happy to see some facets of the media end this manufactured suspense once and for all.

[indimuse]

56. How Dem-O-F*CKING-Cratic!

This is such BS! So many of you should be ashamed, falling for the media picking our candidate.. AGAIN!

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[RainDog]

59. Hillary Supporters on this site now sound like fundies who hate the fact of evolution

sorry, but your attempts to deny reality, to claim that the media is choosing when votes are already knowable by %s, the claim that the republicans (SATAN!) are responsible for the victory of the Obama candidacy...

it's really too much.

but it is exactly the same thing:

1. a refusal to accept facts that can be shown by reproducible results (i.e. if anyone thinks Hillary will actually win 98% of all votes from here out...then just nevermind.)

2. claiming any disagreement means the other person is evil, sexist, ageist, blahblahblah

3. Increased attempts to blame anyone and everyone for facts you do not like.

4. Willingness to subvert reality to keep your fantasy alive.

[Shae]

81. I think half are okay with nuking Iran

if Hillary thinks its necessary.

[Scurrilous]

63. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Veracious]

64. ATTENTION: CLINTON SUPPORTERS - STAND DOWN!

It's over Hillary will NOT be the nominee. Her bold face lie of having won the popular vote is OUTRAGEOUS! She agreed NOT to count the results of Florida AND Michigan! Her race baiting and endorsement for John McCain should be enough for any progressives to throw the towel in on her campaign. It's time for Good Democrats and Progressives to get behind Obama so we can take McInsane down!

[N4457S]

65. Yeah...

...I read the article on the train.

Let's get on with it.

[blayne]

66. The money part is the best part.

And as it has been pointed out before, there are alot of people who just gave a little and are waiting to give again once this blood bath is over. There are people like me who haven't given yet because...well I just don't think they needed my money to bloody each other up. I am saving my money for when it is going to count, against John McCain. Obama's money machine is waiting to break even more records, and that is the most exciting part. Grassroot volunteers count for alot as well, but the money issue is going to make the republican's heads spin.

[futureliveshere]

67. Agreed, though I would urge you to give some even now.

Especially if Clinton is not going anywhere after May 6th. Obama I think is going to have to fight her all the way to PR, whatever the WSJ says. I hope I am wrong though (fingers crossed)

[L0oniX]

68. Kicking for all the Hillbots to choke on. n/t

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=29321423

:evilgrin:

[OzarkDem]

89. So you want Wall Street to choose your candidate for you?

No thanks, I'd rather have someone who isn't owned by the same folks who want to privatize Social Security and kill health care reform.

[TheIronLion]

69. Well, duh...

(GOBAMA!)

[Mme. Defarge]

71. Best news I've seen in days!

[Major Hogwash]

72. It's official - even the Republicans know it.

Someone call Hillary, at 3 AM.

Com'on, I dare ya!

LoL

[kwenu]

74. The WSJ is right!!!! The media calls the election for the victor when an insurmountable lead exists.

[futureliveshere]

79. Yup!! Wonder why no one else sees this.

[invictus]

77. K & R

[Cha]

82. And I got my friends to donate for

the first time after PA letting them know how important it is to let the SuperDees know how many peeps are donating to him and we need every cent to fight the lies from hilary, tony snow, and fauxnoise.

[depakid]

83. The Wall Street Journal was also telling people to horde food today

No joke.

or maybe, the joke's on us for reading their tripe.

[Kaleko]

86. Do you have a link for that and the relevant quote?

I've searched under "hoard food" at their site but could not find an article with today's date that "tells people to hoard food."

Thanks.

[Kaleko]

100. Still waiting for an answer...

Anyone?

[depakid]

102. Sorry, here ya go:

Load Up the Pantry
April 21, 2008 6:47 p.m.

I don't want to alarm anybody, but maybe it's time for Americans to start stockpiling food.

No, this is not a drill.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120881517227532621.html

[Kaleko]

103. Thanks for the link.

I thought you could not possibly be talking about this fluffy opinion piece that follows the opening lines you have quoted above - but I was wrong.

Ay caramba... there's spin coming in from all sides.

[OzarkDem]

88. He's the corporate candidate

WSJ and their cronies are tired of pouring money into his campaign while he fails to close the sale with voters.

Sorry, but we've had enough of the corporate community choosing our candidate for us.

WSJ can kiss off.

[Why Syzygy]

90. Hillary has a big hit list. Don't waste it all in one place.

[OzarkDem]

91. WSJ is pushing Obama

Its very obvious who the corporations want - Barry Obama.

[Why Syzygy]

94. Did they turn on Hillary too? I hadn't noticed.

[TheDonkey]

92. I wouldn't have thought that out party would be the one in shambles this election

We have Huckabee get off the train when the writing was on the wall but the Clinton's continue to foam at the mouth and destroy the party.

[Jakes Progress]

93. I'm fairly new here so

I'm a little surprised that DU would consider WSJ as a credible source for progressive information. Shouldn't we examine the motives of the messenger instead of just repeating the message. Isn't that what we got mad at the media for doing with the messages that Bush gave about the war?

[L. Coyote]

95. Damn. I didn't notice your hand in my pocket until right there at the end!! LOL $$$

[jackson_dem]

96. Of course Murdoch's right-wing rag would say this. They want Obama to be the nominee

Oh, and for those of you who think kicking Clinton to the curb will stop scrutiny of Obama you are in for a big surprise. The day she exits is the day the full rethug machine starts go after Obama--24/7 until November. You guys can't even handle a lapel pin question. How are you going to survive five or six months of non-stop attacks on Obama?

[Jakes Progress]

98. But that will all be

Hillary's fault, don't you see. Rove snaps and the group jumps.

[PBS Poll-435]

97. Yeah! Wahoo! I am so glad we are friends with the WSJ again!!!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

They help me pick the bestest stocks!

Do semi-conductor companies really need silicon?

Whoops!

Anyway...I am so glad that the WSJ is not "dead" to us anymore!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[FrenchieCat]

104. Glad to know we are done. I have Primary overload.

and I'm sick to death of seeing Hillary Clinton. I really am.