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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:58 AM
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This may sound like a bit of speculation, but I think there is an explanation for the apparent coordination between the McCain and Clinton campaigns’ attacks on Barack Obama. Watching the news in the past few days, I have been reminded of discussions with my late father, who was an FDR democrat. In fact, the whole family was FDT democrats at that time. I remember him telling me about his Aunt Mary, a charter member of the Order of Railroad Telegraphers’ Union (Newark and Ridgewood Stations), who was a staunch FDR supporter. She taught Dad to be aware not only of the differences between the two political parties, but also the similarities. She said it was in the overlap that the real opposition to the New Deal was found.

Any system that deals with large numbers of people is, by definition, a bureaucracy. And bureaucracies always have their own internal balance. When I worked in human services, I recognized that "family systems" have a balance like a mobile over a baby’s crib: pull on one piece, and everything shifts. Work-places are the same. Many of us have had the experience of having a new supervisor coming into the workplace, saying, "There are going to be big changes. Big ones." And despite the best of intentions, the system resists change: he numerous pieces on the mobile keep that new supervisor in their balance.

Sometimes in discussions on DU (and elsewhere), people will say that when JFK was assassinated in Dallas, that it represented a coup. There are many people who believe that the military-industrial complex took the reins of power on that day. My Dad always told me that this was incorrect: Kennedy’s being elected president was the coup. He showed me how even in the democratic primary, a number of good "systems" democrats attempted – right up to the convention – to keep JFK from being the nominee. Part of it was because they resented that he wasn’t dependent on the usual sources for his finances, which Dad said was always a key.

President Kennedy was working within the system, but he was aiming at making real changes. Dad used to point to the American University Commencement Address as JFK’s compass pointing where he was heading in his second term. Of course, back then, like today, some people will say that such speeches are meaningless. Take a minute and read (or listen to) this June10, 1963 speech, and decide for yourself:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkamericanuniversityaddress.html

When LBJ became president, he did his absolute best to make shifts in the mobile, to institute social programs that were inspired by his understanding of FDR and JFK. But the system would not accommodate both the "Great Society" and the "War Society." The Vietnam War and the Cold War/Arms Race controlled more pieces on the mobile.

In the 1988 democratic primary, when Jesse Jackson was gaining in support in the factories and on the farms across America, and holding out the promise of real change, the other candidates huddled and devised a plan to put a company man out front. And today, we have the myth that Dukakis lost because he was "too liberal." No, he lost because he was too weak to be anything but a company man. He lost the support of the progressives and many of the liberals when he refused to show them respect by acknowledging what Jesse had accomplished. And there are a lot of democratic "leaders" who are more comfortable feeding at a trough filled by the republican machine than in seeking to accomplish real change.

James Carroll’s book "House of War" documents how the Pentagon has been the nucleus of the American mobile, holding the pieces in place. And while it is not difficult to identify some brave individual democratic politicians who have attempted, from the end of LBJ’s presidency until today, to institute change from their seat in the House of Representatives or the Senate, the system has not changed. It is evident that to make such change a reality, we need to have an agent of change in the White House, a majority in the Congress, and an energized American public that demands real change.

We need a JFK, not an LBJ or a Nixon. It’s no coincidence that LBJ and Nixon were friends, and that in 1968, Johnson actually worked behind the scenes in coperation with Nixon to insure a republican victory. LBJ believed that Nixon was more capable of keeping the machine properly oiled.

The Clinton and McCain attacks on Barack Obama do risk the possibility of a democratic victory in the presidential election. Representative James Clyburn (D-SC), the House Democratic Whip, has said what many of us have come to believe: that Hillary Clinton is willing to damage Obama, allowing McCain to win now so that she can run in 2012. That’s "machine politics," which also risks the democratic party’s ability to win in congressional, state and local elections.

Not this time.

We need to take steps at the grass roots level to counter the Clinton-McCain offensive. One obvious ploy the machine is resorting to is having Clinton supporters being very vocal about how they will vote for McCain if Obama is recognized as the party’s nominee. (Now you tell me – is this not what my father spoke of as the similarities, rather than the differences?) They want to convince the Super Delegates that Obama will have trouble in November, as if the democratic party would do better by picking the candidate who is currently not only in last place, but who cannot win the democratic primary.

Not this time. We are not better off running the last place candidate. It is important that today, people of good will take steps outlined in Amendment 1 of that Bill of Rights. Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper(s). Call, write, and e-mail your elected democratic representatives. Tell them to take steps to end the Clinton campaign’s attempt to damage the democrat party’s top candidate.

Also, please send a contribution to the Obama campaign. We need to be able to set a pace that they can’t keep up with. We need to drain the swamps that breed division within our party that benefits the McCain campaign. We need to work for democratic victories, from the grass roots to the White House.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:01 AM
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1. I've talked to my guys from OR. Mostly not if but when.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:20 AM
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3. Yesterday,
I spoke to a large assembly of students, who will be voting for the first time in November. Today, I can take that darned tie off, roll up my sleeves, and make some phone calls. I'll be sending a few e-mails, as well.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:13 AM
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2. To paraphrase from one of the best here at DU: "My dear H2O Man"...
You paint a great canvas with your words, and I can't help but revel in the poignancy of your message.

Thank you.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:21 AM
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4. Thank you.
We have some unfinished business in this country, and I am convinced that Barack Obama offers us the vehicle to make some advances in important areas.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:39 AM
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5. McCarthy on Chesterton:
"Some forty year ago G. K. Chesterton wrote that every time the world was in trouble the demand went up for a practical man. Unfortunately, he said, each time the demand went up there was a practical man available. As he pointed out then, usually what was needed to deal with an impractical muddle was a theorist or philosopher."
--Senator Eugene McCarthy; May 9, 1965
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:47 AM
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6. The perils of the superdelegates...
It's becoming increasingly clear that the Clinton campaign's attacks on Senator Obama are designed specifically to damage him to the point of being unelectable in the eyes of the superdelegates. That's their MO leading up to the convention. After Denver, IF Senator and President Clinton do NOT support Senator Obama actively and enthusiastically, we'll have confirmation of Congressman Clyburn's suspicions.

Recommended.:hi::thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:00 AM
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7. Yesterday, when I was
preparing to speak with a group of students, the teacher in charge of the program and I had a chance to talk. He expressed concern that the Clinton refusal to accept defeat gracefully would damage our party in November. Like myself, he had supported Bill Clinton in '92 and '96, and Hillary in 2000 and 2006. But this primary is changing his opinion of her.


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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:09 AM
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8. Every time a Clinton was on our ballot, I voted for them...
...except DeWitt Clinton, of course.;)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:37 PM
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23. Right.
I boxed a previously undefeated boxer named Clinton years ago. He was from the famous NYS extended family.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:15 AM
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9. The Teddy Kennedy endorsement happened at American University, as you know
The kids seemed to be into it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:48 AM
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12. There was a nice
article with a quote from Senator Kennedy last week, where people asked him about comparisons between Barack and his brothers. And he said the comparisons are valid for several reasons, including Obama's ability to motivate the younger generation.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:24 AM
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10. I'll donate again, but even better, I pledge to make phone calls
every day until this thing is over.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:49 AM
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14. Great.
We can call our own representatives in Congress, and other important leaders.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:41 PM
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29. Man, I love you people...
:hug:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:45 AM
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11. K&R n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:50 AM
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15. Thank you.
Kepp fighting the Good Fight.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:48 AM
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13. Nailed it. It's about sources of money and power
Obama started working outside of the system for this particular campaign.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 07:52 AM
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16. Right.
The money translates to power & control issues. The system does not tend to respond positively to that which it cannot control. And as Malcolm X used to say, the most powerful of the "-isms" is no longer racism or sexism, it is dollarism.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:14 AM
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17. K
R
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:00 AM
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22. Thank you.
We are movng into a new phase of the compaign.

from the NYT:

“When he was going through his impeachment problems, it was the black community that bellied up to the bar,” Clyburn said. “I think black folks feel strongly that that this is a strange way for President Clinton to show his appreciation.”

Clyburn added that there appears to be an almost “unanimous” view among African-Americans that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton “are committed to doing everything they possibly can to damage Obama to a point that he could never win.”
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:49 AM
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18. Nice post, but....
"Call, write, and e-mail your elected democratic representatives."

Living in red state hell really sucks.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:55 AM
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20. Good point.
People who have non-responsive officials "representing" them do well to call the offices of other officials. It is a second choice, in a sense, but it allows for leaders such as Ted Kennedy or Nancy Pelosi to say in their private conversations that they are hearing from people across the country about the harm that Clinton's selfish campaign is doing to our party.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:26 AM
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19. Wow
K&R
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:55 AM
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21. Thanks! n/t
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:42 PM
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24. Excellent Analysis
and speaks to the frustration the progressives have experienced with Congress. All of them are way too comfortable with the system that is. Yesterday McCain said (as I'm sure you know) that women needed more education and training to qualify for equal pay. The hypocrisy of the first woman candidate for pres supporting a guy with a mind set like that astounds me.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:02 PM
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26. Eye on the Prize.
People need to consider the consequences of dividing the democratic party. At least democrats should.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:57 PM
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25. I sent a message to Bob Casey
asking him for his help with the PA superDs. Not sure how effective it will be since Hillary "won" PA by a "landslide." snark.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:02 PM
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30. Very good.
Casey is in contact with Super Delegates. It is important that he hear from people like you.

Thank you.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:33 PM
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27. K & R
:thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:43 PM
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32. Thanks n/t
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 02:38 PM
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28. My alma mater!
Graduated from AU last May.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:45 PM
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33. Very good!
Great university.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:21 PM
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31. Great point. I'll be donating next month.
If I were thinking in terms of strategy, as a supporter of Obama, I would target the superdelegates in California, New York, and Texas. California and New York donate the most money to Obama's campaign and I detect some buyer's remorse (especially in the case of the California constituency). Barbara Boxer has said she will respect the outcome from the voters in her state, but her silence on the Democratic primary is very curious. I think she may privately flip. I also think Charlie Rangel may flip too.

There are others who came out very early for Sen. Clinton thinking that the nomination would be wrapped up after Super Tuesday. I think, given the current dynamics, and in light of the campaign Sen. Clinton has run, these elected representatives would like to change their minds.

I'll be in Indy with friends this weekend, trying to do my part.

:patriot:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 05:54 PM
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34. Right.
In NYS, there was a lot of support for Hillary Clinton, because she is one of our Senators. And even as an Obama supporter, I have no problem in saying that she is a good Senator in many ways. But there was a change in the tide in January, and it is important for people like Charlie Rangel to hear from Obama supporters.

I have an old friend who used to work for Rangel. He's retired now, and although we live in different parts of the state, we e-mail each other frequesntly. He has always said that Charlie Rangel listens to people, even if he disagrees. That's important. Another important thing is that people like my friend have shifted from pro-Clinton to pro-Obama. People like Rangel are aware that there have been changes. He's not someone who would simply "flip." But he is someone who might be willing to take steps to end the reckless campaign that can't win now, and can only damage the entire party in November.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 06:01 PM
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35. Always good to take a sip
Kool-aid - now in H20man flavor :P

Thanks for posting. The me of 2000 would have called the me of 2008 a conspiracy wingnut. But I'll be damned if all the pieces don't fit too nicely with each other.

GOBAMA :bounce:

I will make some calls on Monday. I'm from Indiana so who knows maybe I'll run into someone I know.
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