Is it me or do the talking heads seemed OFFENDED that Rev. Wright is speaking up in his defense?

[wndycty]

As a Black man my take may be different, but watching the press coverage this morning its as if the MSM is saying:

"How dare that Ni#$er try to get out of the box that we put that Ni#$er in."

It really pissed me off. The talking heads spent the better part of the last month DEFINING him by the video clips, they camped out, staked out Trinity they wanted comment, now they are BOTHERED AND HYSTERICAL about him speaking out.

Last night on HARDBALL Chris Matthews asked why Wright is even speaking (I would love to know how many times his producers have reached out to Trinity or Wright for comment).

BEFORE the interview was taped but after it had been announced, many in the media started speculating about how this interview would hurt Obama, shouldn't this have been a sign? Not for Obama or Wright, but for the public to understand that there is absolutely no way the media would spin it any other way than to say how bad it would be for Obama.

Like well over 99.9% of America I have not seen the entire interview and if I choose not watch it (as most of American will choose not to do) I will be left thinking what the talking heads want me to think. I will be watching tonight and making up my own mind about Rev. Wright and the impact this interview will have on Obama.

[C_U_L8R]

1. All I got to say is Scarborough is racist pig

MSNBC should be ashamed that this shithead represents them.
Ugly.

[ScarletSniper]

2. For the MSM lawd here cometh the Wright..hide your women and children..he ain't docile enough..

[asjr]

3. That is our media for you. I am

offended that they are offended. It seems they absolutely must have something to harp on. And this episode has had legs because of the media. Their goal is to dumb down America and they seem to be doing a pretty good job. I have quit looking at any of the programs. It turns me off. The Wright "affair" should never have gotten the attention it has. Once Sen. Obama repudiated what had been said, that should have been the end. One day Obama is the bad boy; next day Sen. Clinton is the bad girl. The media are our true enemy. Those talking heads must be making the big bucks by trashing everyone else.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

35. EXACTLY

Their goal is to dumb down America and they seem to be doing a pretty good job.

[ellacott]

4. I feel the same way

I did watch the entire sermons and it's shameful how the media presented this man. I do feel they are upset because he didn't stay in his place and is choosing to speak out now. I feel that they think they put him in his place and marginalized him and they expected him to stay there.

I was listening to Campbell Brown and she still couldn't get past the fact that he has the nerve to point out this country's sins.

The way it appears to me is that other people can point out the sins of this country but they have a problem when this man does the same thing.

[ginnyinWI]

28. even David Gergen,

who is usually a moderate voice was saying that this can only hurt Obama. Like Wright didn't check with Obama first? Come on.
I believe ihis interview is part of a strategic plan to get the truth out before the General. If people get to see Rev. Wright as a nice, sane, Christian human being it will poke wholes in the myth the media has spun.

[ellacott]

39. That's a good point n/t

[City Lights]

5. I saw the first few minutes of Abrams last night and it sounded like

he was accusing Wright of throwing Obama under the bus. Seemed indignant that Wright referred to Obama as a politician who did what he had to do. I turned it off after that.

I don't bother watching any of the other bobble head eggspurts. They've proven again and again that they are clueless.

And I'm furious with m$nbc for continuing to employ Joe "dead intern" Scarborough and Pat Buchanan. Neither of them should be given a mic that reaches a nationwide audience.

[Medusa]

6. Scarborough's at it this morning too

how dare Wright speak up! And he implied that this was yet another "problem" for Obama.

[wndycty]

11. Yesterday Whoopi said to Elizabeth on THE VIEW "its a very white way to look at it"

And when Elizabeth said "let me take off my white goggles." Sheri screamed "You can't!"

It just goes to show we all look at things differently. Sheri could have gone a step further and said "I can't take off my Black goggles, we all have goggles and we need to understand how they impact our respective world views."

[dansolo]

7. They are just pissed that the interview wasn't with them

They are just upset that they don't get the ratings boost that a Wright interview would get them.

[ellacott]

9. Very true

I'm sure many of them tried to land that interview.

[GoldieAZ49]

8. They love it, it gives them something to dissect over the next two weeks

24/7 and two weeks to go to the next primary they have to have something

[ClassWarrior]

10. "How dare that Ni#$er try to get out of the box that we put that Ni#$er in."

Exactly.

NGU.

[wndycty]

12. Thanks for getting it

:kick:

[ClassWarrior]

13. Thanks for posting it.

Never Give Up, my friend and neighbor...

NGU.

[wndycty]

14. ;)

:kick:

[Weevlitz]

15. Media losing control?

I've gotten the sick feeling over the last couple of weeks that the networks have been controlling this primary ever since it became clear that Obama had a chance. They were in his corner since Iowa, propping him up, loving him, and pronouncing him the eventual nominee....but JUST as it was getting close to Obama actually knocking Hillary out...the media turned on Obama, using things like Wright, Bitter, and Ayers.... Now I'm not saying that the media wants Clinton to win...or Obama for that matter...all they care about, is that the longer this goes on, the more they get to talk about it. This primary has gone almost perfectly for them. You can't script it any better. Rev. Wright coming out to set things straight...if that's indeed what happens..because I don't know...but Wright doing this could end it....EITHER WAY. He could either destroy Obama...OR...and this is what I'm hoping for...he could make everything alWright! :hug: Stay tuned....but not to MSNBC that's for sure! :silly:

[ClassWarrior]

16. Wouldn't be the first time Bill Moyers made the Corporate Media lose control.

That man's a hero. :loveya: Bill Moyers.

NGU.

[ginnyinWI]

30. best possible interviewer for Wright and the Obama camp to choose.

He's a fellow man of the cloth for one thing. And he is scrupulously fair. And nobody spends the time and goes into the depth of a question that he does. No bells or whistles, just great, quality journalism. :)

[AlinPA]

25. The media is now in total control of everything political. Think Iraq war buildup.

[crankychatter]

61. amen... why do we pretend ?

Why are people surprised that Clinton is getting a free ride?

it's the war

it's the war voting candidates

it's the war profiteers

it's the editorial control of war profiteers that also own media

toss in energy transnationals and megapharms for good measure

why does it surprise people?... why do they look to the MSM for anything more than to find out what the MIC is feeding the mushrooms THIS week?

why is the msm the most cited media source on DU?

What IS SURPRISING, is how well Obama is doing despite being deanscreamed, moonbeamed and swiftboated...

you can bet by 2012 the internet will belong to the likes of comcast

[blogslut]

17. Sad, isn't it?

I am past the point of giving a damn what the flapping jaws think. I just want to see a real journalist interview a fine man.

Bill Moyers and Reverend Jeremiah Wright. It should be interesting and informative. I wonder if Moyers knows Wright? After all, Bill was LBJ's press Secretary at the same time the president had that hernia/polyp surgery.

[ellacott]

21. He is a minister and a member of the UCC congregation

They just might know each other.

[mucifer]

18. scary black man angry on tv

hide the children. He's coming for YOU!

:puke:

I'm glad Obama is standing up to this crap and not backing down.

[TheDoorbellRang]

19. I for one am hoping we get more exposure to Rev Wright

Because the more we get to see him the less the M$M will be able to depict him as the scary black dude. I watched video clips of the sermons with his comments in context, and agreed with what he said. :shrug:

There was a poster here trying to get Obama supporters to sign some petition to "make" Obama denounce Wright because Wright was going on Bill Moyers. I was happy to see DUers didn't fall for it. I say the more exposure we get to the real Rev Wright, the better off Obama will be.

[wndycty]

20. The problem is most people will not see Wright, they will see what the media wants us to see Wright

More folks will see the talking heads say about Wright's interview with Moyers than the actual interview.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. In the clips I've heard he sounded very reasonable (no surprise here).

That's what pisses them off.

"But, but THE Meme!"

[graycem]

23. That's sure how it plays to me too..

Abrams show was the same. It's especially disgusting that they have the one black guy, who is a talking head "preacher" sitting there, with his holier-than-thou attitude, when they know full well that it was taken out of context, agreeing with the "white" boys in all their false indignation. I guess he missed that part of his bible about casting the first stone, in all his glorious perfection. The only one speaking any common sense was Lawrence O'Donnell, unfortunately he'll continue to be drowned out by these loudmouths with ego problems. Yet we don't have clips rolling over and over of Hagee calling the catholic church the great whore. I wonder with the Pope's recent visit why this wasn't parsed over and over, and how this might lose John McCain the catholic vote. But no, we have to worry how this will play to the racist white boys who always vote republican any freakin' way. It's more and more frustrating when they constantly hold him to a different standard. Anybody who agrees or advocates this is a sad, sad excuse of a person.

Joe "dead-intern" Scarface shouldn't even be a free man, let alone have his own show. He's disgusting in every sense of the word. Ditto the bigot Buchanan.

The parts I saw of the interview that are out so far show him to be a reasonable, intelligent man which doesn't play into their narrative of scary and crazy, but that doesn't mean they won't keep trying. Every time they say his name they play the clip, I guess hoping it'll sink in and offend as many people as possible. Still, I say good for him, and the Obama camp will have to deal with it however they see it best. But I think he had a right, and sort of an obligation to speak out, not only for himself but for his congregation. These "pundits" don't understand or maybe they do, that they're just reinforcing that anger that many feel is justified in the man, especially when they play this out of context over and over, and the man and the church are targets of violent threats. It's all so disgusting and more people with a shred of decency should be taking this issue head on.

Then all of these so-called news channels should integrate more black people on all of these shows, in positions that matter such as anchors and hosts instead of these ignorant airheads they seem to be hiring lately in their attempts to compete with the Fox propoganda channel cheerleaders (case in point, MSNBC dingbat just said regarding the food shortages/prices: "I guess it's a good time for people to go on a diet"). When they begin doing that, we might see real change in this country on the issue of race. Then people might wake up to the fact that the problems in our society are not really about race, but about class.

[wndycty]

24. Yes its depressing to see white person after white person tell me how I should feel about. . .

. . .Rev. Wright and race.

[ellacott]

29. I feel the exact same way

There was just news that all the cops in the Micheal Bell case were acquitted on all charges.

And they wonder why some blacks are angry at this system.

[graycem]

32. I don't blame you..

it's offensive to me and I'm a white chick. I don't know why more, allegedly intelligent people cannot see this for what it is, and their silence on the issue is deafening. I do see a small glimmer of hope, the North Carolina stations for example who are refusing to run the ad about him. They should be commended for that and maybe more stations would start to do the same. Even slimy McCain, however disingenuous called them on it, and once again, Senator Clinton missed a golden opportunity to redeem herself somewhat if she'd followed suit, choosing decency over political expediency. Sad really.

But you know what, no matter how this plays out, I think it has forced things to the surface in a profound way, forcing us to face it and hopefully do something about it. We cannot deny that all of this mess has made people, myself included, examine our own prejudices and begin to change the way we see people. I have learned lots of things that I wasn't aware of about civil rights. Particularly The Kerner Commission Report, because it was before my time. The timing seemed to fall in place too with the David Wilson documentary. So maybe it's fate, karma, luck or whatever that all of these things are putting racism on the front burner again, and after the fallout we'll be the better for it.

[BlueJac]

26. They are all thugs and spinners!

[Blue_Roses]

27. because it's easier for them to make up their OWN story than to hear the truth

directly from him.

[SoonerPride]

31. I saw a panel with Abrams last night and they tried to spin his comments to Moyers

Where Rev Wright said Obama had to go say things in a political realm versus how he speaks to his flock. They tried to make it sound like Wright was saying "Obama is just another politician" which, of course, is not what he said at all.

The MSM is full of shit.

[NatBurner]

40. basically

the man talked for an hour, they boiled it down to a sentence.

[SoonerPride]

48. Well, that's par for the course. Only this time they couldn't show him screaming "goddamn America."

He was calm and intelligent and showed why he received three Presidential commnedations and is a respected member of the national clergy.

When Mike Huckabee defends him, you know the right is way out of line in their attacks.

[Texas Hill Country]

33. because the issue had nearly gone away for Obama and now he is front and center again

he could have waited 2 months....

[wndycty]

34. It went a way? It seemed like it was a topic of discussion of the ABC debate and other. . .

. . .post PA analysis, not to mention a commercial by the the NC GOP.

It was not going away.

[ClassWarrior]

37. When will you people learn that this shit NEVER goes away. Monica?

Not going away. Hsu? Not going away. Bosnia lies? NOT going away. Nobody's immune to the RW Corporate smear machine. Nobody. Even if they do play kissie-face with Richard Mellon Sciafe and Rupert Murdoch.

NGU.

[izzybeans]

36. Exactly what it sounds like to this white boy.

[wndycty]

38. Its good to know I'm not the only one with that reaction

:kick:

[Chulanowa]

41. It's always been about Wright's race

If it had been a white preacher giving those sermons... the media would not care. Hell, he could be a racist homophobic freak like Hagee - and the media would smile and wave.

But instead it's a black man getting uppity and talking about social justice, instead of simply leading an endless chorus of "Swing low, sweet chariot" like a good black preacher oughtta. Well, we can't have that, so we have to destroy him!

[BklynChick]

42. absolutely.

[BeyondGeography]

43. Are you kidding? They're offended he hasn't committed suicide yet.

[KittyWampus]

44. so the GOP wingnuts could start an "Obama killed Wright" story.

[wndycty]

45. I'm sure they wouldn't miss that opportunity

:kick:

[BlooInBloo]

46. Scary black people talking always offends white folks.

[knixphan]

50. ding ding ding!

you go to the bonus truth round!

[BlooInBloo]

56. :) Better luck next year with the team!

[knixphan]

66. :) nowhere to go but up!

[Warren DeMontague]

47. Because. They make the news. The news isn't supposed to make itself.

This fucks up their cycle.

[ej510]

54. Brutha you know that we are considered to be the race on

the bottom of the shoe. We are considered to be lower than the spit and bacteria on the ground. We are suppose to shut up and say whatever we are told and stay in our place. Obama did not listen and now they have to put him in his place we have some of our people in the media that are brain dead. Jonathan Capehart is one of them.

[knixphan]

49. you got it.

[cottonseed]

51. Heard Tweety say, "I don't care what he has to say"

or something to that effect in a show of his yesterday or the day before. Yes, Wright has been put in a box. Wright has been framed and I just don't see a way out of it. Very frustrating.

[redqueen]

52. Of course they are! He's not following the script...

It's up to us to make sure the spin doesn't take... the M$M are working against the interests of the public.

[EFerrari]

53. Also, don't forget they all HATE Bill Moyers. He criticizes them

all the time -- especially by doing his job.

[smiley_glad_hands]

55. Didn't you get the memo from Hill, MSM, and repugs? Black people have no reason to be angry. eom

[wndycty]

57. I have to give it up to Frenchi Cat. . .she coined the term "pastorbaiting"

So appropriate to describe what they are doing.

[MadBadger]

58. When did she do that?

[wndycty]

59. Within the hour. . .she is so awesome. . .she is my DU crush!

Here is the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5680706

:kick:

[MadBadger]

60. I'm sorry...I'm gonna have to say that she wasnt the first one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5674925&mesg_id=5674925

Nobody bothered to comment on it :-(...then it got moved to the Lounge

[wndycty]

63. I google it and saw it was first used on 4/08

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5424487&mesg_id=5424526

[MadBadger]

64. Yea, I got it from somebody else.

[crankychatter]

62. "If we had State controlled media, could you tell the difference?" Amy Goodman

just sayin'

[Tatiana]

65. He's not going to be their punching bag anymore. And they HATE that fact.

Even more, he's an eloquent, passionate, and caring individual. They are annoyed by the fact that the American public might just learn the truth about who Jeremiah is as an individual and realize the media lied to them (again).