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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:42 AM
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What the hell is wrong with Hillary?
Every Republican I know is loving Hillary right now. She is doing more damage to the Democratic chances of winning in November more than they can do. They republicans are the only ones winning from this.

I don't know what going through her head right now, but she is the biggest threat to the Democratic Party. This is just absurd. She needs to clean her act up and get out of the race.

I want to win in November goddammit
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:44 AM
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1. Either she truly believes that only she can beat McCain and
must get the nomination at any cost OR, she's realized she has NO chance and is positioning for 2012...
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:58 AM
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8. I think she really believes she has a chance and that she is the best candidate.
I don't think she is thinking about 2012, unless, as I just said, she thinks that the country will need her in 2012. I don't think she is evil. Just clueless and well meaning. She wants to fix the mess we are in. I just happen to think Obama has a better chance.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:49 AM
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2. HRC is attempting to attract rethug votes which will be NECESSARY..........
to WIN in November, specially because so many failed BO supporters won't be supporting HER!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:05 PM
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23. psst, she won't get anywhere near the nomination...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:49 AM
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3. She's drunk with power and she wants more.
It's not helping that her husband has gone batshit crazy since leaving office.

I think the party elders are going to have to drag her off the national stage very soon since it's obvious she doesn't understand the reality of the situation.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:53 AM
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4. Give her the hook
This bad act has gone on long enough.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:14 AM
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11. You are 100% correct. It's all about the power. That's it, nothing else.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:55 AM
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5. It's time that we declared Hillary irrelevant.
It's time to start the campaign against McCain.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:15 PM
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27. And, we're up against clinton noisenetwork
..without which they'd be out already.

hilary is an empty shell and if she believes she's anything but the lying, scheming warmonger that she is.. then she's more delusional than she gets credit for.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:56 AM
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6. It needs a conspiracy theory because it's as irrational as Invading Iraq
mystifying...

one has to ask... is compelled to ask THIS question

in all seriousness

WHAT the HELL is she THINKING?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:57 AM
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7. btw k/r
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:13 AM
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9. The list of what's wrong is endless, maybe the shorter answer comes with the question . . .
What is right with Hillary? Then one word answer is . . .nothing.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:14 AM
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10. Hillary who?
:shrug:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:23 AM
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12. She has been a huge drag on the Democratic Party all along. As as soon as Bill got caught having
illicit sex in the White House, so was he.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:24 AM
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13. Two legs good, four legs bad!
Four legs good, two legs bad!
Two legs good, four legs bad!
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hill_win_2008 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:25 AM
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14. Tell O to drop out then
If you think this is damaging the Democratic party and our chances, then why not have Obama drop out?

If either one drops out, the other will get the nomination. At this point, either could beat McCain in GE.

Or here's an idea: let's finish voting first.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:39 AM
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17. So she is holding the party hostage?
I don't mind if she stays in if she runs a respectful campaign, but flinging any dirt you can find at your own party is not an acceptable strategy.
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hill_win_2008 Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:41 AM
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18. Flinging dirt?
Sounds like any day on DU directed at Hillary to me.

The race isn't over yet!
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:59 AM
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21. you're one of those people who wants to play the 4th & 5th hands after 3 out of 5 is already won
--I suspect you don't really care, but there is no chance, nada, zilch, that HRC can "win" the nomination, by whatver metric you use, and because of her disloyalty, treachery, virtual endorsement of McCain, and backstabbing of fellow Democrats--not to mention skyrocketing negativity ratings and plummeting cash contributions--there is no way in hell that the superdelegates are going to magically "give" her the nomination. She has proven to be a dismally failed candidate, she is pathetic as a sour loser. she can't manage her campaign, she lost 11% of the lead she had in PA, she won't answer questions about her conflicts of interest and lying about secret double-dealings with Uribe in Colombia. You're apparently fascinated by the last gasps of something dying. She's on the same team as Obama and is NOT a team player. She could have assured a good place for herself in the new Democratic adminstration but is now just going to be a footnote, regarded sort of the way Katherine Harris is regarded by Republicans and Democratsd alike--a kook and an embarrassment.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:07 PM
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24. Why should thhe person ahead be the one to drop out
The only thing she can hope for is a total Obama implosion, the so-called "dead girl or live boy" scenario that they used to refer to as the career killer.
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:08 PM
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25. Maybe because O is winning right now?
Why should the person in the lead drop out? Hillary is the one endorsing McCain and tearing her party down.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:26 AM
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15. She lies and her supporters lie. She supports nothing but her own ascension to power...
... And her supporters are fine with that. Any other questions?
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:27 AM
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16. Sadly, there are enough that see nothing wrong with Hillary
Thats why this crazy dance slogs onward.

I remain at a loss why some folks see what we see, and others don't - all Dems and all looking at the same person.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:50 AM
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19. Say hello to my little friend.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:02 PM
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22. cute pic cbayer
how would you ever get him to stand still for that?
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:35 PM
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28. That's a breeze.
It's getting out of his way when he starts shooting that is the hard part.

:hi:
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haroldgiowa Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 11:52 AM
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20. Why?
Why is it, in January when Iowa was holding its' caucuses everybody wanted the process to move to its' conclusion at the end of the primary season? Now in April there is one side saying stop it now. Which is it, let everyone vote or let everyone vote until you say it is over?

I can see it now. If Obama looses in November,and I am not saying he will, then they can blame Clinton for his lose. I am not buying this now and I won't be buying it in November.

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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:08 PM
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She's power hungry and she cares about one thing and one things only
winning. It's not about this country, it's not about trying to solve some of the immense and numerous problems we face, it's not about the desire to help others, it's not about the Democratic party, it's all about the Clinton-brand.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:08 PM
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26. We will win in November with either Hillary or Barack because people are sick of the Repubs. nt
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:36 PM
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29. CONSPIRACY THEORY TIME:
Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 12:44 PM by goletian
the clintons and bushs are in cahoots on something major. think about it, bush sr and b clinton are buds, bush jr said publicly that he expected clinton to be the dem nominee, far right fringe repubs have hated hillary for over a decade, suddenly they love her and despise obama. mccain was one of the weakest links on the repub side, yet somehow he managed to get elected despite not being popular among conservative repubs, their base. this election was fixed for hillary to take it, and for the illusion of "bush mess, clinton clean up" to continue. rupert murdoch even held a fund raiser for her at one point.

hillary voted for iraq war; she knew it would lead to war, shes not stupid (anyone that tells you otherwise is insulting hillarys intelligence). now shes talking of massive retaliation against iran (same direction bush wants us to go in), extending security umbrella beyond israel, etc. shes a wolf in sheeps clothing. she expected her bid for the dem nomination to be over by super tuesday, she told g stephanopoulos her campaign had no plans for any date beyond that. she was the presumptive nominee, the presumptive president. this mccain fear is irrational, hes weak as hell, obama v clinton is it -- its one of them -- that is the presidency. mccain is not conservative enough, hes a blatant flip flopper, hes old as fuck.

obama was a huge upset from out of the blue that was not expected. because of that, hillarys campaign went dumb and dirty really fast. theres desperation because she refuses for the bush/clinton cycle to be broken, but suddenly theres a black chink in the chain. how else do you explain the complete lack of foresight that is the experience argument in a contest that leads to a run against white haired mccain with more experience? how else do you explain her blatant lying on national television, political hit jobs via debate by ex clinton employee, and all this other batshit crazy stuff she and her campaign have done and are doing? it makes no sense for someone to be so shortsighted and so unabashedly and obviously dishonest. shes encouraging the disenfranchisement of all the nations voters!

again, this is just my conspiracy theory, but damn, its fuckin nuts what shes doin. i cant rationalize it any other way. somethings fishy. something is up. bush wins a second term? really?? people outside of the us always ask how the hell that happened. most who arent brainwashed far right nuts do, too. kerry and bush in the same mysterious, power brokering frat? really?? kerry didnt defend himself adequately in 2004? really?? why? it makes no fucking sense, man.
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