Superdelegates are NOT being fooled by Clinton! Great news!!

[AZBlue]

Clinton can lie all she wants and tell everyone that she's more electable, that she's got the popular vote (and that it means something), that she's got "momentum" - but the SD's see through her lies.

“I don’t think anyone’s shaken,” a leading House Democrat told me. The critical mass of Democratic congressmen that has been prepared to endorse Obama when the timing seemed right remains prepared to do so. Their reasons, ones they have held for months, have not changed – and by their very nature are unlikely to.

Essentially, they are three:

(a) Hillary Rodham Clinton is such a polarizing figure that everyone who ever considered voting Republican in November, and even many who never did, will go to the polls to vote against her, thus jeopardizing Democrats down the ticket – i.e., themselves, or, for party leaders, the sizeable majorities they hope to gain in the House and the Senate in November.

(b) To take the nomination away from Obama when he is leading in the elected delegate count would deeply alienate the black base of the Democratic Party, and, in the words of one leading Democrat, “The superdelegates are not going to switch their votes and jeopardize the future of the Democratic Party for generations.” Such a move, he said, would also disillusion the new, mostly young, voters who have entered into politics for the first time because of Obama, and lose the votes of independents who could make the critical difference in November.

(c) Because the black vote can make the decisive difference in numerous congressional districts, discarding Obama could cost the Democrats numerous seats.

One Democratic leader told me, “If we overrule the elected delegates there would be mayhem.” Hillary Rodham Clinton’s claim that she has, or will have, won the popular vote does not impress them – both because of her dubious math and because, as another key Democrat says firmly, “The rules are that it’s the delegates, period.” (These views are closely aligned with Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s statement earlier this year that the superdelegates should not overrule the votes of the elected delegates.)

Even more interesting:

“We may have to go to June, and whoever ends up with the most delegates wins,” a key Democrat says. “Meanwhile, the attention will be on the battle she can’t win, so why is she doing this – from here on out she’s only bleeding the party. The right way to put it is, ‘This is a war of attrition and it’s obvious that the numbers aren’t going to add up, so what’s the point?’” He added, “The hope is that at some point the superdelegates will get frustrated and join the Obama bandwagon.”

This pressure may not be enough to get the tenacious Hillary Rodham Clinton to quit the race, but, says a leading Democrat, “Sometime in June we will make it clear to her that this thing isn’t going to the convention.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9862.html

Sen. Clinton: you lost. There's no way for you to win the 2008 Democratic Presidential nomination. Now, you're just losing general support for you overall, you're eating away at your chances of re-election to the Senate and you're alienating Democrats every day you keep this up. Give it up now while you still have a shred of dignity left.

[NJmaverick]

1. SDs are usually well educated and well informed

That is a problem for Hillary

[eagertolearn]

32. She is pandering to the blue collar crowd ...

and I agree with you the SD's are smart and experienced and why would she want to be pissing them off with the fake news and smear tactics. Why are the news stations taking off with this and saying that she is so close to Obama? Why are they not challenging her claims to being ahead in the popular vote (I know she is saying "if all the votes were counted")? These last few days have been crazy. She is acting like her win in PA put her right back in the race????

[LSparkle]

2. She supposedly met with a group of SDs in D.C. yesterday -- any news?

Is anyone leaking how that meeting went?

[AZBlue]

4. I haven't heard anything specifically but this was posted today

so perhaps it's a "response" without coming out and responding?

[LSparkle]

11. That's what I was thinking ... good news in that event.

[Zachstar]

3. About your comment: Let May 6 pass before any more calls for her to exit.

It is less than 2 weeks away and Obama is already gaining ground on Clinton in Indiana. By May 6th I think it is going to be over. Clinton will likely exit then.

[ladywnch]

6. dream on.....she will NEVER stop .....she just doesn't care if she

destroys dem chances for a win......if it isn't going to be her, then it will be nobody.....and then have the balls to say 'i told you so'.

scorched earth policy, that's her mission now.

[AZBlue]

14. There must be some way to stop her.

And if there isn't - we need to seriously revise our primary process!

[Eurobabe]

38. Have to agree, Hillary cares only for herself

she doesn't give a SHIT about the Dem party, too bad so many people are blinded to this fact.

[L0oniX]

45. She doesn't care about the Democratic party because she's a repuke wannabe, chicken hawk..

[AZBlue]

7. I do hope so. And if that's the case, that's fine.

But I'm getting frustrated - we give her until one date, then we allow her the next date, then we go to the next...and so on. And she's still here.

[Zachstar]

9. We have to do so. It is her choice to exit not ours.

Every super and every party leader can endorse Obama and she can still stay in the race.

It has her choice till the convention.

[AZBlue]

12. I do hope party leaders step up and say enough is enough.

The longer this goes on, the more she's making an idiot of herself and ridiculing the primary process.

[Andy823]

22. If Obama wins

Indiana and NC, he should simply ignore her rants and go after McCain. If the SD's start coming out saying they will back him, she will only make things worse for herself, and her political future, if the doesn't just drop out.

[ginnyinWI]

31. I get the feeling he's already starting his GE run

The Rev. Wright interview is a sign that he's dealing with that particular pitfall. He's talking a lot about McCain and the issues. He's doing GOTV stuff and looking presidential. Good for him!

[DJ13]

5. Im starting to see a pattern

Its looking like a rush of SD's are making it known that Hillary should quit well ahead of their actual Obama endorsements.

Not a bad strategy because if they make enough noise, and it becomes obvious to everyone (including Hillary) that she wont win, then either she does give it up (freeing the SD's to stop waiting for another Obama victory), or her fundraising dries up and she's forced to quit at that point.

Pretty smart.

[AZBlue]

8. "Hillraiser" Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon has already switched to Obama.

[mod mom]

10. After she embraced the likes of Richard Mellon Scaife and trashed the only network providing some

objectivity, I believe the party has to look at the damage she has done.

[AZBlue]

13. And just think of the damage she's done to herself.

I used to think she was smart - but no smart person would damage their own future like she has.

[mod mom]

16. It's desperation. She realizes when Obama wins, she will never have another opportunity

She will be too old, not to mention damaged goods. I think she really believes that Scaife and FAUX really respect her-she has no idea they are using her to help bring out their base.

[XemaSab]

18. But it's a hole she herself dug...

If she had never gone negative, even now she could still be considered for the vice presidency.

But her whole "fighting" attitude is not helping her or anyone.

[Cha]

26. Good point and good retort for

those who still call her "intelligent".

[0007]

43. I use to think that she was the real thing too!

[liberaldem4ever]

48. And Bill Clinton too

I know he is brilliant, but why would he forever damage his legacy by doing and saying the things he has in this primary? He used to be a real hero to me, but not anymore. I have to question the loyalty that I used to feel for the Clintons and how much of what I said to defend them in the '90's was misguided. I feel used and manipulated by them and their surrogates, but at least I have learned a good life lesson-don't blindly give your trust to anybody.

[datopbanana]

15. BECAUSE SHE HAS NO ARGUMENT. BIGSTATE/POPULAR VOTE arguments are hugely flawed

[PseudoIntellect]

33. Actually this IS in fact a contest for who can

make it seem like they've won more big states while ignoring the big states the other side has won.

Also, it's a popular vote race. And declaring that one MAY win the popular vote in the distant future proves, without a doubt, that that candidate speculating on a possible popular vote win should be the nominee.

It's not about delegates or anything.

:sarcasm:

[AntiFascist]

46. I've heard that recent polling in California now favors Obama....

If that's the case, then she's already lost the biggest state.

[nashville_brook]

17. with the acquittal of the NY police in the Sean Bell case, and the Wesley Snipes sentencing

it's hard to imagine that anyone would be in the mood for more racial alienation. would be nice if the Clintons would realize this.

[PoliticalAmazon]

19. Sad. What you would hope would be a reason for the SDs wasn't included...

..."Because Hillary has repeatedly insulted Obama supporters, and pandered to bigots, she doesn't deserve the nomination. Our Party lives and braethes by the will of its voters, and we cannot endorse anyone who disrespects our voters."

[jettison]

20. But, but, but...

... Obama said "bitter".

[PoliticalAmazon]

21. Come over here, darlin', so I can deliver a swift kick to your cyberkiester....

[kwenu]

23. There you have it. Blazing, naked TRUTH!!!!

[Mme. Defarge]

24. Recommended!

[ShortnFiery]

25. Bless the clear minded superdelegates who are not fooled by the whores in the M$M

:applause:

Let's agree to boogie down (forgive me I'm almost 50 y.o. :blush:) to "It's Obama Time! - MC Hammer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXR4JEbY1d8

Said "No" (to the Iraq War)
While the others got clowned! :thumbsup:

Where the HELL is Bin Laden At?!?

O - B - A - M - A Barack, Obama Time!

Yes. We. Can. :patriot:

[AZBlue]

30. Don't worry - I "boogie down" too!

We're showing our age...you know, that age that's not supposed to support Barack Obama. :D

[juajen]

34. Exactly who are these supposed superdelegates?

Ya'll post stuff all the time with no backup. Don't you get a little tired of all this saber rattling?

[WA98296]

27. Kicked and Recommended

[Infinite Hope]

28. A-freakin'-men. n/t

[ORDem]

29. That point the SDs are looking for are when Obama captures the majority of pledged delegates ...

most likely on May 20th when KY and OR vote. They don't have to wait to see who has the "most" at that point.

:dem:

[krkaufman]

35. Great closing .... "Sometime in June we will make it clear to her ..."

“Sometime in June we will make it clear to her ... that this thing isn’t going to the convention.”

[MJJP21]

36. Will someone please

Will someone please suggest to the Obama camp or the DNC to express this sentiment on the air in the next states to have primaries and get the democrats to understand what is at issue here. The voters in these states don't understand the math and are falling for the lies of Hillary so therefore don't understand the risks of voting for her. As I have said repeatedly I will not vote for Hillary and will split my ticket with McBush and the rest dem as I feel it as important if not more so to have dem senators and congressman. This post brings up a good point in that Hillary will drag that possibility down with her.

[FlaGranny]

41. You're right, and the only thing

that can come of the false optimism for Hillary is a marginally closer and more contentious battle, a more split party, and Obama still gets the nomination. And if he doesn't? Well that's a whole other story - even a more split and angrier party. Hillary has taken it far enough at this point, that there might be too many wounds to heal already.

Hillary has already made me reconsider. I once would have happily voted for her if she won the nomination. I'll probably have to vote for her if she should pull it off with the SDs, just to help make up for some other people I know who won't. I'd try to convince them to vote for her, or, at worst (best?) not vote the presidential ticket, rather than vote for McCain.

[metamars]

37. Hillary Dillary Dock

Hillary Dillary Dock
She thinks she can run out the clock
But second place she'll never shed
Because that strategy only works when you're AHEAD
Hillary Dillary Dock


The End

[DeeDeeNY]

39. Are the SDs afraid of being trash-talked by the Clintons?

"The critical mass of Democratic congressmen that has been prepared to endorse Obama when the timing seemed right remains prepared to do so." So -- when will the timing be right???

[tomp]

40. couldn't the sd's force her out...

...by declaring for obama now? aren't they complicit at this point?

[mcollier]

42. After a long fought down in the dirt campaign

the winning candidate typically burns the very bridges they need to cross later in order to get things done in government. This is a significant flaw of the politics as usual. Barack Obama brings a philosophy of building people up not tearing people down. That's who he is, and the American People respect and appreciate him for that. This is fundamental to changing Washington.

I've put together a video to encourage people to read and discuss Barack Obama's "The Blueprint For Change"

visit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG0TsYTb6_E

2 weeks until the next big contests...

Thanks everyone,

[tomp]

47. did you respond specifically to me?

if so, you did not answer the question.

a comment anyway: i'm not intereseted in a candidate that wants to "reach across the aisle. what's on "our" side of the aisle isn't even so hot.

[eagertolearn]

50. Her supporters would then claim that Obama was chosen by the SD,s

So I can see why they want her to bow out before they all go to the Obama side. She can't win without them and she is so far behind that if she loses both Indiana and NC then she could bow out without the embarrassment of having more SD,s go Obama's way.

[ejbr]

44. If the Super Delegates go against the will of the people

then I will sit out November, since our votes won't count for anything anyway. Whether it is Clinton or Obama, it is the voters who should decide.

[quantass]

49. .

[Texas Hill Country]

51. this is such a bullshit argument... if they have decided they would have come out.

this is propoganda and you people are falling for it hook line and sinker.