Call me crazy - but I think the Obama Campaign read my DU Post?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

I just heard, on MSNBC, a quote from David Plouffe, that was taken from
a National Journal interview today.

Paraphrasing he said " Clinton is the one with an electability issue,
she has the highest negatives of any one running for president. She is
also seen as untrustworthy. She would have a real problem getting
independent voters" !

This is the very first time I've heard the campaign brings these
points up. I asked DUers to recommend my post from yesterday, and they did.
I also sent it to friends in the state Obama campaign and to a dozen "Obama leaning"
political people in the news.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking that we can have an impact -
Probably coincidence - but I don't care - I'm just glad they
said it, finally.


MY POST
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Typical Rovian tactics being played by media and by the Clinton team CONSTANTLY questioning Obama’s electability prospects.. !

It’s Rove’s classic MO, assess your own weaknesses – find the worst one – and then be the FIRST one to accuse your opponent of the exact same thing! It works for two Reasons 1) You accuse first and often and in orchestrated unison, turning it into Conventional Wisdom, 2) The one accused is immediately put on the defensive and responses are typically un-orchestrated and scattered.

In the end, you have a net gain because more people heard the first accusation and any defense arguments are heard by fewer people. Hey it worked on the experience issue even though there's not much difference between the two!


The media has every right to ask how Obama can boost support with groups that
Hillary has done better with. BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO ASK CLINTON AND HER SURROGATES:

About the biggest Elephant in the Room ! HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE US say they would
Never vote for Hillary Clinton for President. How's turning that around going? Do
you think it could be any more favorable since this survey was done by Zogby in October given
your negatives among Dem's have risen?

And while you are at it:

1. How can Hillary win over New Voters and Young People like Obama can??? (And dropping
that she plays pinochle, is not gonna cut it!)

2. How Hillary can win over the Independents and Republicans like Obama can?
(And threatening to obliterate Iran's not gonna win over the moderates!)


The Obama Team should get their act together before people actually start
Believing this bullshit! Remember there are people out there who still
Believe that Saddam was responsible for 9-11 !

[futureliveshere]

1. Awesome if they have.. Awesome if they haven't.

In the first case because that means they are actually listening to their supporters...

and in the second.. it means they are in tune with us.. their biggest supporters.

[thevoiceofreason]

2. We Obama folks have voted - you should get a by-line on the story!

(And you were spot on!)

[2rth2pwr]

3. You are a genius

in your own mind.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. You are so right. I wish I could be smart enough to support someone

who stays in a race, against all mathematical odds, against
all customs where most all predecessors bowed out with grace because
they cared more about their party than their own self-agrandizement,
because she cares so much about the "hunter, drinker, religious
little people."

[jaxx]

4. I remember reading this post.

I thought you were right there with it, as Hillary faces reality by trying to convince you that it's wrong. She spins the truths and hopes they will become her words. Behind in state wins...only hers are worth anything. Behind in delegates...bring back FL and MI after agreeing they wouldn't count.

Electibility...another pipe dream. The pubs are using her to promote McCain.

[redqueen]

5. Well if they did... then kudos!

And if they didn't... then still, kudos. Great point. :toast:

[Raine]

6. COOL!

:thumbsup:

[DemGa]

7. Team Obama has used these attacks from the beginning

This was one of Barack Obama's central arguments: he was more electable because of Hillary's high "negatives."

"It's very hard for Senator Clinton to break out of the politics of the past 15 years," Obama said after being asked about her at the school appearance. "Senator Clinton starts off with 47 percent of the country against her. That's a hard place to start."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/10/AR2008021001331.html


‘‘Democrats will win in November and build a majority in Congress not by nominating a candidate who will unite the other party against us, but by choosing one who can unite this country around a movement for change,’’ Obama said,

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/768042,obhill013008.article

As far as the "honesty" question, Team Obama has used that relentlessly:

Senator Clinton likes to claim that she’s been vetted. But there is a salient theme emerging that has not been examined at all in this race: Senator Clinton has consistently made political calculations to deliberately mislead the American people and the voters have noticed.

For too long, the media has failed to live up to its historic obligation of holding candidates accountable for their contradictions on the campaign trail, and it’s time that Senator Clinton be questioned aggressively about this pattern of misleading voters.

A history of misleading voters

http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-clinton-misleading-voters/


“People have heard a lot of things that just aren’t true from the mouth of the First Lady, from the mouth of the former president, from the mouth of the campaign," said Robert Gibbs, Obama’s communications director.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8002.html


http://www.attacktimeline.com/

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Sure, I am sure you are right - it's all been said before. What I am

talking about is a pre-determined, clear, universal, repeated rebuttal message made
by multiple parties, on every network.

[Cleita]

8. They do and they borrow ideas and statements because let's face it

some DUers make some awesome posts. Thom Hartmann sometimes quotes from DU. He does attribute though which the candidates don't seem to.

[skids]

9. We'll never know...

...but one thing is for sure some have learned that "the blogs" matter:

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002710033&parm1=2&cpage=1

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Interesting. I hope soon we won't hear " Oh, you got that from the

internet." with a sneer and an attitude that
it must be a bunch of bullshit.

[Cha]

10. Could be or

great minds think alike! Main thing is they're taking your advice, either way.

[PoliticalAmazon]

11. Good points, but not the first time I've heard them (I watch MSNBC mainly) n/t

[EFerrari]

12. And Skinner says we never do anything.

:)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. I am still in awe of DU. There is such a wealth of

knowledge, intelligence, and aptitude for research
and analysis. Wish it could be harnessed for
good. But as a friend of mine from Birmingham
used to say, "that would be too much like right."

[TheDonkey]

14. Voters choice with Hillary in the GE: Vote for Incompetent War Hero or Unlikeable Liar

Doesn't look like a slam dunk

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Are you saying he was incompetent as a war hero? or just

incompetent in general?

[Breeze54]

15. Not to burst your bubble but I've heard that said by many for months...

I think it is wishful thinking although there are spies everywhere!! :scared:

:P

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. You've heard that said by the O campaign? I must have been

sleeping. I watched the news channels for three
days solid this week and heard report, after
report, after report, saying O was in trouble -
Unelectable....

No bubble to burst - I am sure I had nothing whatsoever
to do with it. BUT - It was just so weird. I was watching
the rhetoric (above) go on and on. I write this
post. I send it to the media, the O campaign, and then
the very next day, I was watching MSNBC and I perk up because
Plouffe is making the same argument I made the
day before. Sure it was a coincidence, I guess.

Somewhere inside me wishes it was my post and emails
just because it seems we all have been unrecognized
and unheard for so long. Like no matter what we
say - no one is listening.

[Breeze54]

20. I don't listen to the O or C campaign, so I have no idea but

that has been said over and over by many, as I'm sure you know.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. What? I watched the political shows for 3 solid days and it was

3 solid days of Obama - you're not electable.

I know none of what I said was original thought. My
real point was - O campaign - get your act together
and get some rebuttal out there.

[Breeze54]

30. I don't do cable... they're all liars and spinners.

I listen to progressive political talk and I watch broadcast
news and PBS and many on there were saying the same thing.

[Breeze54]

22. BTW? My sister SWEARS Tweety quoted her from her e-mail to him about statistics

and how to interpret them and she SWEARS a day or so later he "spoke" to her
by turning to the camera and saying; "I DO know how to interpret statistics!"

:rofl:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. And you made her feel like she was crazy insane too?

[Breeze54]

29. I patted her gently on the head and told her she thinks to much!

:P

No, not really but I did laugh but she was already laughing at herself.

She knows he probably got a ton of e-mails on that mistake he made but

she is an expert in statistics and told him so; she said, so I guess

she'd like to think he listened to her.

[Catherine Vincent]

18. Okay...you're crazy!

LOL!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Yes, I am

[AlCzervik]

26. "The call is coming from inside the house"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. So somebody's after you? Might be a DUer you jumped on at

some point?

[Breeze54]

31. "The phone is ringing. It's 3 AM and the call...

... is coming from inside the house!! :scared:

:rofl:

[AlCzervik]

32. lol. Glad someone got the When a stranger calls reference.

:rofl:

[ruby slippers]

33. well, I'm SURE that MSNBC and Countdown producers....

read the posts. There are too many times that things come up the next day after something is posted here and/or sent to them in emails. I know I forward a LOT of DU links to them when I see something interesting.