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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:03 PM Original message |
The Clintons Campaign Strategy: "We're White Like You...He's Not" |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. they are a terrible disappointment, aren't they? |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Condensed, their message is: "Whites good, blacks bad." n/t |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Yes, lisa58. And they have stained our proud party. |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Obama strategy: "I'm black. She's not. vote for me." |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Lie. Obama has not "pulled a Hillary" and pandered to bigots. n/t |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
79. Civility is a virtue... |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
68. That is just racist bullshit |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Anyone who uses race to divide and conquer |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
99. Except it isn't the black person that is doing it. N/T |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. I think so. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. here's how and why they played race politics |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. I see this line of reasoning as self destructive for Clinton |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. well, it's worked many times, and it's not so much about going |
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DogPoundPup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #108 |
129. NO It Isn't...here's why......... |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. Yep. But we're supposed to close our eyes to that. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. If you post racist crap, damn right I'll call you a racist N/T |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
78. Hillary has no need to pander to bigots. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Hillary had no need to pander to bigots |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. If she is so smart and calculating why would she do it? |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. I think she calculated the AA vote was out of reach |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Look at these charts |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
124. Just because the strategy backfired on her doesn't mean that wasn't her strategy to begin with |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. Good point |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
115. I don't remember the exact issues surrounding Sister Soljah, but |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
109. to frame Obama as the fringe minority candidate who couldn't appeal |
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guyanakoolaid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
125. She is indeed calculating. Just not smart. Explains the reasoning for her repeated pro-war votes. |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #125 |
132. I have less difficulty with the "pro war" votes |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
104. Absurd. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. The Clintons are disgusting. K&R nt |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
69. Hillary Clinton = Lurleen Wallace |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
83. I will try to stick to facts and not emotion... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama smear - again - the race of Obama is "faculty lounge"and he can't relate to $50k white workers |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Bill Clinton, son of the South, knows exactly what he is doing and |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Skidmore, that's the thing. Bill does, as you say, "chooses his language with care." |
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DAGDA56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You tried this same shit yesterday...and let me remind you again |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Shh! Don't give us away. If everyone sees how easy it is being |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. But Clinton, with 10 times his net worth, can? Explain that n/t |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
76. Horseshit |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
107. Oh, that's right - the guy who just finished paying off his student loans |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Ugh. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. Its all Hillary's fault, I am sure her ancestors had something to do |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Hey. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Are you forgetting that.. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R. Whew, there's some powerfully good posting going on tonite |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. Thanks. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
73. The worst and by far the most abominable offense is over his church! |
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kwenu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. And they are losing. |
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psychmommy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. i agree. |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. Obama is the one who has gotten the free ride until |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. Agree, it's very sad that |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. This afternoon at the post office, an old White Lady warmed my heart |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Thanks for the inspiring story, Catherina. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. I wanted to share it because it made me feel so good |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. God Bless you Catherina |
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Johnny Noshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
72. Bill Clinton ACTUALLY said that.... |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
15. one thing |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
87. More horseshit |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
128. Ever been to Biloxi |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. The Dukes of Hazzard???? |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
103. I grew up in the South in the 1950's. The term "shuck and jive" is loaded with race. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. 'EVEN THOUGH' |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
36. OMG. Such class. She agrees the anti-Obama 97% of the ad. |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
90. They had to respond because John McCain already denounced it |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's sad |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Why don't you send your mother emails to counteract,.,, |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I talk to her on the phone |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. Why is it that you don't put your wrath on the Repugs who are turmoiling us? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. What an odd post |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
85. Amen, amen, amen, amen!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Do you honestly think Hillary can beat McCain? |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Most of these involved Bill or |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
126. The fact that the Swiftboat claims were false didn't help Kerry, did they? N/T |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
91. KoKo, Hillary did it to herself |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #91 |
133. Sorry you feel this way |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. There have been some very disturbing trends in the Hill campaign regarding racial undertones. eom |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. K & R |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. k&r david, you summed it up well. n/t |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Thanks, cali. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
26. K & R |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
27. 36 years ago, George Wallace and his racists split the party to help Nixon win |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. History repeats itself. n/t |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
65. It was 1968, 40 years ago. And Wallace received over 9.9 million votes. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-25-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
30. and it goes on and on and on... |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
37. Hillary is not racist. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #37 |
62. You don't have to agree with a sentiment to use it to your advantage. |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
86. Me too! |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
92. Same here. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
94. and they are now trying to guilt people into voting for him. if you don't... |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. David, this is an excellent post. You have really contextualized the Clinton "argument". |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
39. If you have not yet read this article, I highly recommend it. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
41. You're completely wrong n-t |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
43. I think you're confusing the Clintons with Obama's strategy in SC, MS, and NC |
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liberalcommontater (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
88. They don't see it. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
44. You are totally correct, David...... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
45. Deleted message |
H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
47. For many of us, |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
120. Thanks for bringing |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
48. America deserves much better than the Clintons |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
49. that's not a good way to discuss racism |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
50. WOW! Glad to see the "Obama is a racist" meme debunked. |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
51. Sen. Clinton lost me at "spade work" |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
52. Yes, many family and friends are deeply hurt and betrayed |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
53. To highlight the point " is George Bush muslim " " no as far as I kow" So clear what she meant. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
54. You should submit this to OpEdNews, David. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. There was the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. That's right. I was hoping that I'd imagined that one |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
56. I think your post is dead on. My eyes have been open for quit some time now about the deplorable |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
59. It's the Clinton's very own "Southern Strategy" complete with code-words. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
106. No kidding. A few weeks ago, I joked that they'd be out |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
60. They conveniently forget Obama's late mother-- |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
63. If that's true than the reverse goes for Obama. I think you're ridiculous |
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ekwhite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
97. That doesn't even make sense |
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leaningprog (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
64. Bullseye! |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
66. Link please. |
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suzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Bill Clinton is coming to = George Wallace |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
67. Great Post! |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
70. I thought Bill was the first "black" President. (nt) |
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Steely_Dan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. So Did I... |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
110. If we're going to bring up the Clinton as first black president meme |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
93. the more obama supporters play call sen. clinton racist, the more of her supporters will |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. And you ability to discount the evidence is even scarier. |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
96. Outstanding post, David. Probably one of your best. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
111. clintons are not "white like me". |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Which is why it is imperative that those of us who are white stand up to this once and for all. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Thank you, David, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Deleted message |
Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
112. Oh but vote |
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113. K&R |
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117. This Is An Outrage |
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118. Well, David |
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122. BLACK? NOBODY TOLD ME HE WAS BALCK... |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
127. translation: obama's poll numbers are dropping |
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mcollier (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Best Political Ad - FUBAR McSame McCain |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
134. You've already labeled Hillary a racist, so what do the facts matter? |
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