Remember, Obama drew the divisive and race cards first.

[jasmine621]

When he began campaigning on the mantra: "The majority of Clinton supporters will vote for me but she will not be able to get the majority of my supporters to vote for her." (paraphrased) I remember when that clip was shown on TV, I took real offense to it. I thought it was arrogant AND a coded race-baiting remark. It was like telling black voters that if he isn't the nominee, they should not vote for Hillary.

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[jackson_dem]

2. The funny thing is he stopped using that talking point after poll data came in showing the opposite

Obama would have lost a long time ago if he didn't play the race card in SC.

[datopbanana]

17. He made Bill compare him to JJ right?

And poll data never showed HRC more popular with independents and republicans (THE VOTERS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT)

[chimpymustgo]

30. Before Iowa, Michelle proclaimed that SC blacks would "come to their senses" and vote for Obama.

Such a way with words, that Michelle.

[lumberjack_jeff]

47. And now they use it to make the case that HRC supporters are racists.

I think it's amusing that when they don't consider it spin.

[cliffordu]

48. Curiouser and curiouser...

The "logic" that leads you to arrive at THIS talking point.

"Obama would have lost a long time ago if he didn't play the race card in SC."


This is just false.

It is logically false

It is factually false

It is the falsehood of someone who has nowhere left to go, intellectually.

It is corrupt.

You are intellectually corrupt or dishonest or both.

You should be ashamed of yourself

[MadBadger]

3. INDEPENDENTS

[datopbanana]

16. Ya. Some people here are too stupid to even figure out who he was talking about

[earthlover]

22. Stupid, or they use their intelligence to deceive....same result

[Kahuna]

40. Incredible isn't it? I nominatae this for the stupidest post of the day. nt

I know it's early, but I think this one will be hard to top. :crazy: (not your post, the OP)

[jackson_dem]

75. He is tanking. Kerry had great appeal to indies too before folks learned more about him

So did Bush in 2000. So did Dukakis. It was always a fairy tale that Obama would be immune to this and not suffer among indies after being vetted and attacked. His unfavorables are now only 9% less than a woman who has been attacked for 16 years by rethugs and the MSM according to the Newsweek poll. How high would they both after months of 24/7 rethug attacks on him? It is only April and glass jaw Obama is already tanking after taking a few hits for two months.

[MadBadger]

81. Oh go pasturbate with your Secularist twin.

[jackson_dem]

83. Thanks for the compliment

:thumbsup:

[VolcanoJen]

84. NO OTHER DEMOCRATS CAN WIN ONLY CLINTONS! CLINTONS ARE TEH ONLY VIABLE DEMOCRATS11!!!

Give it a fuckin' rest.

Luckily, we won't have to see what eight years of idle RNC oppo against Hillary looks like in the fall. It's pretty much the main reason why I never could bring myself to support her in the first place.

[MadBadger]

4. dupe

[SeattleGirl]

5. :sigh:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. What an idiotic, ignorant and race-baiting claim.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/01/629273.aspx

The lovey-doveyness of last night's debate may have come to an end. This morning, Obama said Clinton supporters would vote for him but the reverse would not be true. He took credit for helping to expand the playing field for Democrats by "attracting new voters and independent voters into the process in a way that Senator Clinton cannot do."

"I don't take all the credit for the enormous upsurge in participation in the Democratic primaries and caucuses over the last four contests," Obama said while taking questions from reporters in Los Angeles. "But I think it's fair to say nobody has done more to engage and bring people in who otherwise would not participate."

Obama and McCain both attract a large number of Independents, while Clinton is stronger among Democrats than Independents. Using Nevada as an example, Obama said while Clinton did well in Clark County where traditional Democrats reside, he did well in Elko, a place without traditional Democratic votes.

"I am confident I will get her votes if I'm the nominee," Obama stressed. "It's not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee."

more

[Why Syzygy]

11. Thank you.

I knew when I read that, "paraphrased", something was being creatively fudged by a mile.

[CakeGrrl]

15. Thank you for the CORRECT context and debunking this tired claim

Is EVERYTHING the Clinton supporters "quote" about Obama taken out of context?

:eyes:

[fortyfeetunder]

44. Hillary's polarizing influence

Hey A! Thanks for posting this!!!

It's not about race it's about bringing people together. Sen. Clinton has not done the American voting populace any favors with her negative, polarizing campaign.

In all my years of watching politics, this is the first time I've seen such polarization within the Democratic party!

[sandnsea]

7. I guess you missed the drug dealer innuendo

Back in Dec of 2007. yeesh.

[intaglio]

8. Please - stop emulating your beloved

and insinuating that only "blacks" support Obama

[Why Syzygy]

9. He did that by being born black, I suppose.

[Undercurrent]

10. Sheesh!

He was referring to the youth vote.

Obama doesn't tell people they should vote for him because it would be wonderful to have a black man in the White House, or how people are picking on him because he's black.

Hillary has played the gender card over and over. She is constantly making the point that it would be wonderful to have a woman in the White House, and that people are picking on her because she is a woman.

Bill, and various Clinton minions have repeatedly played the race card.

The US is far more accepting of having a woman as president than a black. The third in line for the presidency is the Speaker of the House - a woman.

I was watching TV the other day and there was a round table of pundits, all yucking is up at how "funny" Obama dresses! They were laughing so hard you could hardly hear the "clever" criticisms they were tossing out. And no, it was not Faux News, it was MSNBC.

If Hillary had been the topic of this laugh fest she would be screaming sexism.

btw: How many death threats do you think a woman running for office receives? How many pieces of real hate mail?

[BootinUp]

12. I always interpreted as meaning the independents myself. nt

[krkaufman]

88. Both. New "youthful" voters, independents ... but also disaffected Republicans ...

... who were all leaning towards voting Democratic in November. Obama has a better chance of getting these voters to pull the lever for a Democratic President -- and, by association, downticket Democrats, as well.

[cali]

13. lol. delusional hillbots gone wild!

[guyanakoolaid]

14. Actually, it was a completely sexist thing for Obama to say.

Who is he to presuppose what women will and won't vote for? How does he know that women aren't so blind to gender loyalty that they won't wake up and smell the coffee that Hillary has no chance to win this thing? I for one think he has a point, that even feminists will come around to him once they realize what the alternative is.

[datopbanana]

18. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS

DO SOME RESEARCH.

[guyanakoolaid]

49. reread my post

[RaleighNCDUer]

55. Sarcasm smilies help, in the midst of heated conversations. nt

[guyanakoolaid]

63. Yeah, too visible, I wanted the sarcasm to sink in slowly, like a shot of Crown

[datopbanana]

86. Sorry. I didn't realize you were kidding. Some people here would actually believe what you said.

[bowens43]

29. He didn't say or imply that either

are lires really the best you can do?

[guyanakoolaid]

50. reread my post

[SoCalDem]

19. Drew them as Clinton people DEALT them to him

The Clintons just though they could get away with it because Bill was so beloved..Hah!

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[Vinca]

21. No, actually the first race card was play by Bill Clinton with

the Jesse Jackson comment in South Carolina. That's what set the AA community off big time and why the Clintons lost their vote. Rep. Clyburn made a note of that just yesterday.

[EFerrari]

23. Shaheen was even before that. n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

56. Didn't Penn send out some troubling emails even before that, in

Iowa?

THAT'S why I could never give Bill the benefit of the doubt over SC. It was already an established pattern.

[Window]

24. Here lies a liar. Lied poorly...just like

:nuke: Hillary.

[doggycat]

25. You are correct

the Lyndon Johnson comments and even the fairy tale comments were falsely said to be racist by Obama fans.

[dansolo]

31. I actually agree about the fairy tale comments

Bill was 100% wrong in his comments, but they had nothing to do with racism.

[chimpymustgo]

33. Remember - they wrote a campaign memo on how to exploit the issue. Which the media

gave about :05 of coverage to and moved on. This is what Bill Clinton is frustrated about.

http://supertuesdayblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/president-bill-clinton-says-the-obama-campaign-played-the-race-card-on-him/

The strategy was outlined in that memo - exploit "fairy tale" and "MKL v JBJ". Prince Obama has run a quite the vicious campaign - but of course the media just blame Hillary for it!

[RaleighNCDUer]

60. The memo did NOT instruct his people to exploit those comments -

merely to be sure that they all knew the kind of crap that the Hillary camp was using, so they could be aware of any patterns, and respond quickly.

Not surprisingly, they did, and THAT is why she's so steamed. Nobody likes being called on underhanded tactics.

[RaleighNCDUer]

58. Fairy tale comments were not racist -

merely dismissive and demeaning, and totally unworthy of the former President.

[dansolo]

26. At that time, Obama didn't have the support of the AA community

Obama was referring to the newly registered, idealistic voters that he was bringing into the process, as well as Independents and disaffected Republicans. At the time he made that quote, Hillary still had the majority of support of the African American community. So to claim that it was a race-baiting comment is mistaken, because you are applying the current political climate, to a quote that was made when the situation was dramatically different.

[bowens43]

27. You're a liar. He said no such thing.

Lies and decite are you have. There is NOTHING positive to be said about hillary.

[Blarch]

28. It's the truth.

Obama brought many many new voters into the game ....it is very likely that these new voters will not be as 'energized' over hillary, and may not show up to the polls.

I don't know what kind of mental block hillary supporters have...but they can't seem to grasp this very simple concept. It has nothing to do with race....only a hillary supporter would go there.

[BeyondGeography]

32. Of all the horseshit you Hillbots buy into, this one's the best

Your "example of proof" ignores the fact that indpendents and younger voters don't like your candidate that much. But, like many white people, you think the black man can only be talking about race.

Laughable.

[TragedyandHope]

34. Be being born

1992/1996: Sure, we'll take your votes! We're glad to have the support of such loyal Democrats!

2008: WHAT?! You want to run? Who do you think you are, boy?

[Bensthename]

35. OMG.. Worst excuse I've heard all week. I think he was talking about the educated voters..

[JoFerret]

36. Would be worth getting the actual quote

But whatever he said then, i hear echoes of that sentiment expressed here on DU.

My question is: For whom did those same voters choose in 1992 and 1996?

Are they so fickle and foolish that they are incapable of rational decisions should Obama not be the nominee? I don't think so.

[ima_sinnic]

37. typical hillbot: ignorant, racist, gullible, and uneducated

I guess she picked her target group well: suckers whose racist fears she can play on to sell her snake oil--kinda the same people who thought GWB was somehow a qualified and capable prezidenshul candidate.

[Taxmyth]

38. Pretty big democgraphic you have shown

Probably the largest bloc of Americans voting in November.

[rodeodance]

66. typical Obama bot: ignorant, racist, gullible, and if education, it does not show.

[Kahuna]

39. Umm. Dear. You have a very small mind if you read a race-baiting

code in that remark. He was referring to indies and repubs that are voting for him. Sheesh.

[smiley_glad_hands]

41. Actually, NO, I don't remember that, it DIDN'T happen. LOL eom

[NorthCarolina]

42. I don't think he was referring to "Black Voters", rather it was "Intelligent Voters" n/t

[madrchsod]

43. there are a lot of assumtions in your post

your whole assumption is based on "black" voters. what about "white" voters? i`d put you on ignore but i find posts like this a reminder that racism is alive and well in the democratic party

[stillcool]

45. He was referring to Independents..

..but I'm sure there is much about Senator Obama that you find "Arrogant, and Offensive"

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail
A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."
"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."


Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States. Obama is a Christian.

The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.

On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.
Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged
comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.

Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html
Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
By Julie Bosman

KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.
------------------

Johnson's comments and remarks by both Clintons before the New Hampshire primary last week had alarmed several black leaders and drew a rebuke from Obama and his top aides.

It began when Hillary Clinton gave an interview in which she seemed to discount King's role in the civil rights movement. Later, former President Clinton cast aspects of Obama's candidacy as a "fairy tale."

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=278988
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.

Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/

Link for lawsuit: http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[FlaGranny]

46. How can I remember

something that is not true?

[Armstead]

51. A little bit arrogent, but not racist

As I recall, well into the early primaries, it was Clinton who had the majority of Black votes.

[Moochy]

52. Was that when he was born with "one drop" of african blood?

[intaglio]

53. And where are the words

Black, Brown or African-American in that statement

Clinton supporter "spin" otherwise known as lying

[PseudoIntellect]

54. ...except, the majority of Obama supporters are not black.

[Catherina]

57. You HRC supporters are too funny! What fucking projection lies.

:puke:

[mattclearing]

59. You are 100% wrong.

First off, that was said before Bill and Hillary attempted to split the electorate into black and white with their calculated comments about FDR, MLK, and Jesse Jackson.

Secondly, it was true. Obama brought new voters into the process that weren't Democrats, and don't give a shit about the Democratic Party. Of course they aren't going to feel obligated to vote for Hillary if their candidate didn't win the primaries. Nor should they.

[Gore1FL]

61. Oh.. I though it was

when he had the nerve to be born with an African father.

[ginchinchili]

62. This is what we'd have to endure under a Obama presidency.

Democrats have made a grave mistake.

[EFerrari]

69. Yes. Youth involved in the political process.

We cannot have that. :scared:

[ginchinchili]

72. No. More divisive politics for a politician's personal gain.

Youth just tend to be the most impressionable and, so, make the easiest targets. The fact that a majority of young people support the candidate who is depending mostly on rhetoric speaks volumes.

[EFerrari]

74. Do you mean the rhetoric that discounts the youth vote

or the rhetoric that discounts rhetoric?

Really, the talking points don't even make sense.

[ecdab]

64. Funny thing - Obama was talking about the young voters he has brought into

the party, not the African American vote.

You have to being looking awfully hard for hidden race cards to find one in those remarks.

[annie1]

65. i took it that way to. that was ugly. it was more like holding the black vote hostage.

or holding the youth vote hostage. what a uniter. if he felt he can unite people, why is he saying he doesn't know if they'll vote for her? he can't rally the troops?

[AZBlue]

67. You know you're misrepresenting his words here right? You know he was referring to Independents

and that his supporters don't want her kind of politics, right? You're just being divisive and rude and not incredibly stupid, right?

[ProSense]

82. Doesn't matter. Facts are irrelevant, some chose to see and hear what they want to. n/t

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

68. Negative. He said this after S.C., where Bill brought up Jesse. Please play again sometime

[StevieM]

76. Actually, they were already being accused of injecting race before the JJ comments (eom)

[StevieM]

77. And that was a blatant lie from Obama, one of many (eom)

[krkaufman]

89. Agreed. The "JJ" comments by Bill were just the tight soundbite that got replayed.

The Clinton campaign had been doing the same thing, though, in leading-up to the SC primary, seeking to diminish expectations based on the racial makeup of the state.

[fishwax]

70. paraphrase should accurately reflect what was said. I think the word you're looking for is

(distortion)

[susankh4]

71. I agree with your thesis.

And I was offended by it from the get-go.

[kwenu]

73. That's a lie but it doesn't matter at this point. She lost.

[Exilednight]

78. "I took real offense to it." and I took offense way before that when the Clintons' made............

their racist comments in South Carolina.

[BenDavid]

79. Obama = Vote Against Racism or Voting for Hillary was a racist act?

If you read between the lines here, Obama's saying that if he hadn't won South Carolina it wouldn't have been a "shift" in racial politics. Which means that a vote for him is a vote against racism, right? Which means that Obama's playing the racial politics game even as he pretends like he's not.
If Obama wasn't playing racial politics, he'd be answering questions about his race by saying that South Carolinians had simply chosen the best candidate, regardless of race. But he didn't say that. He said that by choosing him, South Carolinians absolved themselves of their racial sins of the past.

Did you happen to catch Bill's statement comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson after the South Carolina primary? Anyone who has any clue about the feelings of African Americans will realize that the comment was out of line. It was like saying" "Don't forget everyone, this guy is black..just in case you had forgotten..I am here to remind you.. he is black...African American... oh yeah, ...did I mention that he is black?"

This is how it read after South Carolina about Bill. Immediately after the votes were tallied, the very first thing Bill did was bring up the issue of race. Not the voters, not the issues, it was pure unadulterated race baiting and I just can't forgive him for that. I really in my heart believed that Bill was different and to be honest, I was hurt that he, of all people, would jump straight back to the
race issue without even stopping to take a breath."

I've never been African American but that sounds like crazy talk to me. Bill only brought up "race" if you're looking to accuse him of "bringing up race." When did it become racist to mention political history when talking political history?

I saw the exact clip, but not the comments before and after. If some reporters ran up to Clinton and said, "Ha ha, your wife couldn't even win Carolina, what do you have to say about that, Mr. Politics?"
and his reply was, "Jesse won Carolina TWICE and he's not president, so maybe winning Carolina isn't the great springboard you guys claim it is." How is that racial? And who in Carolina doesn't know Jesse Jackson is black?

When Hillary failed to win Iowa, I wrote something like, "That's OK, Reagan and Bill lost Iowa, too."
Were those racial remarks? Of course they weren't - that was just political history. Why is Clinton not allowed to talk politics in a campaign?

What nobody is mentioning is the undeniable slap at Jackson. "Don't you DARE compare Obama to Jesse," as tho Jesse was another Willie Horton. How ashamed is the Black community of Jesse Jackson?

This whole race baiting and racial card playing by the obama camp is finally being exposed and the more I can expose it here, maybe it will make folks think.

Shalom
Ben David

[Zhade]

80. Liar.

NT!

[VolcanoJen]

85. Because timelines matter, and because this link bears a re-post.

http://clintonattacksobama.pbwiki.com/Incident+Tracker

[krkaufman]

87. Your interpretation. A more accurate interpretation, given the polling numbers ...

... was that Obama was merely highlighting the fact that independents and disaffected Republicans tempted to vote Democratic are less likely to vote for Clinton than Obama. The comment wasn't focused on loyal Democrats.

But I'm sure you'll continue along in clinging to the interpretation that gives you the most pleasure.

[Kurovski]

90. Well then he's an asshole.

My dilemma here is that Senator Clinton is an even bigger asshole.

[Raine]

91. Quit spreading this bullshit...

that's only the idiotic meaning YOU read into it and nothing more.