Hillary Clinton scares me.

[Unbowed]

In all honestly, I'm afraid of what Hillary Clinton would do if ever elected President. She's shown a willingness to lie, cheat, kneecap and slander. What would she do if elected? Would she keep any of the promises she's made? Looks seriously doubtful.

I'm afraid of Hillary Clinton because she's shown what kinds of things she's capable of but we have NO idea how far she will go. She's attacked Democrats who don't agree with her, organizations who do not side with her, politicians who do not support her and the DNC because it hasn't knuckled under and complied with her every request. What would she do if she got in the White House?

A choice between McCain and Clinton is NO CHOICE any Democrat should ever, ever have to make. That's the bottom line. If Clinton is the nominee, we have to choose which neocon nut job we want in the White House, the one pretending to be a Democrat or the one pretending to be a moderate Republican.

Once upon a time, Hillary Clinton was a Democrat. But before that she was a Republican. She has obviously gone back to her roots.

Which leaves us with only one Democrat left in this primary: Barack Obama.

Not so long ago, I'd have been happy to vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party, no matter who the nominee. Now, it looks like we have a trojan horse candidate ready to do anything it takes to wrest that nomination from the grasp of a real Democrat.

If the Democratic Party allows that to happen, not only is the nominee not legitimate, the party no longer stands for what it used to.

That is precisely why Hillary Clinton will NEVER be the nominee of the Democratic Party. The Party, as long as it exists, will simply NOT nominate the likes of Hillary Clinton.

Not this year. Not any year. I just don't see our party sinking that low.

[Oleladylib]

1. Is the Prozac refillable? n/t

[Unbowed]

5. Sure seems like she's off it. Maybe she should ask Rush if he can spare any. n/t

[ForeignSpectator]

59. Ask Tony Soprano... n/t

[DemKing]

87. Dont Be Afraid ... The Clintons ARE OVER!

Hillary is over.. sure she will go back to her job in new york

Bill ruined his legacy, he is still the best president we have had in 40 years, but he ruined his personal legacy with his base.

They are both old & done.

Very sick and creepy at how important being President is for these old freaks!!! McCain has sold totally out and he is what like 72 years old and HE still wants this? The Clintons ruin their party by opening the door for a republican to actually have a slight chance. very slight, but more of a chance then before....


Its pretty disgusting!

FINALLY this country is going past the 1960's debates on well everything! The 1970's Coke Disco GW Bush laziness.... Retire and let Obama OUR Generation who took a step back and has seen the Pros & Cons of the past fix everything :)

Common Sense is the kids from the 1990's - Up. They dont get polluted with race and stupid News Media Driven Issues. All the Issues the failures before us love to push.

Obama isn't one of these kinda guys! He is one of us..

It's really -

Obama vs Hillary & Bill & McCain & Fox News & Right Radio & National Cable News & National News

[ksquire]

88. good question. Bill's prescription has clearly run out -- as has Hillary's Nt

[ima_sinnic]

2. what you said--she is despicable--rec'd

[cliffordu]

3. I'm scared of her too....

[NJmaverick]

4. She does act like she isn't restrained by any moral boundries

[Unbowed]

11. Exactly.

At first it seemed like she was only using Republican tactics, but that war-mongering talk about the Middle East and Iran took things to a whole other level.

Apparently she isn't restrained one iota.

[rainlillie]

62. ITA!

"She does act like she isn't restrained by any moral boundaries."



That's a prefect way to put it.

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[dkf]

7. She also has a penchant for secrecy...she has a whole lot

of the characteristics that have made George W. Bush's Presidency a nightmare.

[Darth_Kitten]

8. I'm scared of people who think life is just about pretty rainbows and perfect people.

n/t

[RazBerryBeret]

that would be her voting block

of the over 60 female crowd....
and they're probably not aware that she threatened to OBLITERATE Iran this week...

[cascadiance]

23. I think there's an added variable this time in terms of generational differences coming to play...

It's probably pretty clear to most that in the case of Clinton, she will attract the older generation's voters a bit more just because she's the older candidate and more represents past Democratic people in Washington, and Obama represents a younger crowd looking for newer blood to replace the old blood that they perceive is toxic.

But another variable which I think is more unique in this election, and will be fading away in subsequent elections is that in this election, the older generation that supports her is still in large part computer illiterate, but is probably going to be the last older generation that's in this category. There are already many older folk that do use the computer, but there are still many that have stayed away from the computer for many years and do so in their retirement years too. The coming generations won't have lived through an age where one could stay away from the computer like the past ones have.

Those generations in the future will be more used to the newer ways of building knowledge of candidates and be more adept at working within newer and more MSM propaganda resistant means of getting information about candidates, whereas the older ones are more prone to the traditional mass marketing of candidates that Hillary has done well and is what the corporate media has done well to help dumb us down to this point.

There are other aspects of the newer generation, who didn't grow up with the fairness doctrine, etc. to also adapt to be better informed too, but at least they'll have the mechanics down of being able to get the other forms of media that the MSM might not control, which is an obstacle for many of the older generation now.

[RazBerryBeret]

29. good, interesting points.

you have to wonder if the MSM would have such a stranglehold on our elections if it weren't for the Telecommunications act of 1996. that deregulation (IMO) made them stronger, and at the same time narrower in vision. Kind of Ironic that it happened during the Clinton years.

I know that the MSM has influenced elections for years. but now it seems to own them...

[cascadiance]

43. Not only do they "own them", elections now are a profit center for them!

For the rest of corporate America they are buying influence with the politicians to do their bidding later that will hopefully pay back what they put in.

But with the media, it is an even better equation that that (as "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" documentary) points out.

Not only do they buy influence by providing the purse strings for candidates to be elected (which helps them also get their influence later in the same fashion that the rest of corporate America's lobbying does), but they ALSO get money BACK from all of this spending when all of this excessive campaign spending gets put back in to their coffers in terms of spending on election ads, ratings for all of these countless debates (tabloid style or no) that are being run, etc. That in my book is another reason why they are pushing this campaign out.

They want more of the campaign money being generated and spent too with the prolonged campaign. THEY are the ones that profit from this. This sort of equation in its extreme sense this time around wasn't around in earlier elections.

[KittyWampus]

65. brilliant post, deserves its own thread, really. Older voter=computer illiterate=more influenced

by corporate/GOP controlled mass media.

It'd be really interesting to see exit polling on how voters with computers/without voted.

[Ronnie]

47. "the over 60 female crowd...."

Charming.

[WyLoochka]

67. as they say truth hurts

Several women I know are supporting Clinton simply because of her gender, and to some, her age is a factor that tips them toward her as well.

But that doesn't include my Mom - who is 90. She was leaning that way up until about mid March. She was saying both candidates are so great we should have Clinton first and then Obama after that.

Gradually she became more and more aghast at the tactics Clinton employed that she totally turned against her saying she would just give us more of the same vile meanness that bush/cheney have dished out.

Nothing would change - and change is what we need. And a big part of the change has to be moving away from being mean. I'm proud of my Mom for being able to see the situation. Waiting for the rest of the women to catch up to this 90 year old.

I'm not offended by the phrase "the over 60 female crowd" and I've just entered this crowd. I'm offended by those in my crowd who still cling to Clinton as representative of some kind of monumental change that would be good for the country just because she is a woman. The UK changed radically when Maggie Thatcher was in power - but certainly not for the better.

Hillary reminds me of Thatcher in many ways - neocon ways.

[MyNameGoesHere]

84. That's just ignorance.

If only over 60 year old females were her base, this race would not be close. Try harder because you are excluding the many millions of not over 60 year old females that voted and will vote for her.

[goclark]

70. That means the WHITE females, other races are excluded

What is her percentage among ALL WOMEN?????

This is a real concern of mine.:puke:

It should be a concern of many but it slips under the radar all the time.

[Unbowed]

36. Pretty rainbows and pretty people all just like us, huh? No thanks. n/t

[cali]

40. You mean like you re John Edwards

if there's ever been a more adoring fawning supporter of a politician on DU, I've never seen it. As much so, sure. More? Er, no possible. And I don't love Obama or have blind faith in him. I support him because I've researched his past and his positions- and warts and all, I find more positives than negatives.

[Skidmore]

51. I'm tired of dishonesty, duplicity, and secretive people.

I'm tired of people who think that rules don't apply to them while they apply to everyone else. I'm tired of people who speak out of both sides of their mouths and get upset when told they have no credibility. We've had two terms of this kind of crap and don't need more of it, even if it comes with a labelled as (D) instead of (R).

[butterfly77]

57. That would be her base...

who thinks that she is a nice woman that everyone is beating up on, but they are blind to the dirt she throws. Her base also think that the country will have two for one with bill and that is the problem I really believe that he is getting kind of senile or just plain grouchy...

[RazBerryBeret]

9. and I'm scared of her too...

I'm scared of her for my sake, the country's sake and my two young son's sake. I am hopeful this will work out. she continues to alienate people and groups--that is the good thing about her staying in the race, maybe it will dwindle to just the corporate backers and MSM....

[LaurenG]

10. I was hoping for a really strong Democrat this time

I know that Obama and Clinton are not the best we've got to offer but they're who we've got. I've resigned myself to working for whoever wins but I am much too realistic to believe that either one of them can get much done; either negative or positive.

I don't agree that the democratic party won't nominate Senator Clinton, my guess is that somehow they will.

[Steely_Dan]

14. We Had Plenty of Strong...

candidates. We blew it by putting forward the only two weak candidates. How we could have taken what should have been a shoe-in election and made it into a horse-race is beyond my understanding.

-P

[Unbowed]

34. Obama is proving to be stronger and smarter than I expected.

My first choice was Chris Dodd, but he didn't seem to know how to raise the money needed or how to run a campaign at this level.

[Unbowed]

15. I hope you're wrong.

Obama wasn't my first choice, but he's the only choice for this lifelong Democrat now.

If the party were to nominate someone who has begun to campaign on nuclear holocaust, which is exactly what Clinton has done, it would cease to be the Democratic Party. And were that the case, there would be a huge sucking sound as lifelong democrats such as myself left in droves to become new Independents.

[LaurenG]

20. Well let me put it this way, I prefer Obama, I can't listen to Clinton

at all. Like bush she makes me angry so I won't watch her unless there is a "funny" clip posted here, (like her Sat Night Live stuff).


I will still vote for either of them just for the health care plan. Other than that :shrug:

[Steely_Dan]

12. Kneecapping?

I didn't read about that. Can you offer a reference?

-P

[DJ13]

13. I cant tell these two apart anymore

[liberaldem4ever]

16. Great post-I absolutely agree

Anybody that will do anything at all for power will do anything to keep power once they get it. That's scary for sure.

[Unbowed]

21. Thank you. It's also very sad.

We have just live through an administration that has told us anything, even torture, is justified as a means to an end. We have had our rights eroded in the name of liberty by people who don't even see the irony in the concept. We have lost so much. We can't lose our Party down the same sinkhole of moral disintegration.

[liberaldem4ever]

53. That is what is going to happen

if Hillary Clinton keeps trying to destroy Barack Obama-who is going to be our Dem nominee whether she likes it or not. All she is doing now is helping McCain get elected and she knows it. McCain is sitting back and laughing at all of us in the Democratic party with Rush, Hannity and the rest of the Repukes.

[Diane R]

17. I've been terrified, and repulsed, by her ever since I read the book 'For Love of Politics'.

And, since the day in October 2006 when I saw her take John Kerry down after the 'botched joke', not because he was unfairly characterized, not because she didn't know exactly what he meant, but because she gleefully saw her opening to demolish a 2008 opponent. Democratic chances in the 2006 congressional elections be damned.

Hillary Clinton is dangerous. Bill Clinton in the white house...with all his anger, greed, power and nothing but time on his hands, would be dangerous. We don't have the luxury of riding out another failed and disastrous presidency for four years.

[Unbowed]

32. I'll have to read that book.

It bothered me that she jumped on Kerry over that joke, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and let it slide. She seemed to be a good Democrat and that was what mattered most in the election. Boy was I wrong. Clinton has shown us what she's made of during this primary and it isn't Democrat, not by a long shot.

You're right about Bill Clinton. What has happened to that man? I've been trying to figure out which of them is the evil one driving the other over the edge. I've finally concluded they are both behaving with out shame or conscience. Speaking as a Democrat, that hurts us all.

[katandmoon]

18. Oh for god's sake. Hyperbole much? Jesus fucking Christ.

[SammyWinstonJack]

25. ...

:thumbsup:

[hisownpetard]

33. Oh, where to start...? First of all, 'hyperbole' is a noun. To properly complete the phrase,

'____________ much?," a verb must be inserted.

Ex: 'Exaggerate much?'

What you said is more akin to saying something like, "Doorknob much?"

In other words, it doesn't make a whit of sense.

Get it, much?

[Unbowed]

39. LOL!

:rofl:

[hisownpetard]

42. Thank you, much.

:hi:

[Bensthename]

19. If Hillary steals this from Obama... My voting days are done.... Ignorance is bliss....

McCain may be the better choice then Hillary but I wouldnt vote for him either.

[Unbowed]

26. There are options. There are always options.

There are other party candidates and there is always the write-in option.

It's better than not voting.

I'm sure that won't come to pass though. Democrats simply won't let her do this. They know what's at stake. If she ever were to get the nomination, it would create a huge third party candidacy. They know this.

[Bensthename]

45. lol, that is true.. Now I know why some vote 3rd party.. Go Nader.

Haha.. I hope it doesnt come to that.

[juno jones]

98. Nader is so 2000, Cynthia McKinney is running for the greens this year. n/t

[ekwhite]

94. Exactly. Cynthia McKinney would get my vote instead of HRC

Her website.

[blue sky at night]

22. If people would stop voting...

against their own best interests, then we wouldn't have to worry about dear HRC. If the electorate is so worried about this or that(Obama is a black man), instead of the crumbling of America before our eyes, then they will vote for Republicans. I will never, ever vote for any Republican. End of Message.

[marylanddem]

24. Thank you - totally agree.

[Exilednight]

27. She's bordering on Nero syndrome. n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

37. Which is what?

n/t

A woman doing the same things a man does to get elected, but gets skewered for it?

[Exilednight]

46. It has nothing to do with her being a woman, and I............

tolerate such behavior from a man either. To prove my point, I don't accept it from dubya and I don't accept it from Hillary.

[jjr5]

72. I'm a woman, and I disagree with you -

In fact, if a man did what Hillary Clinton has done I think it would be seen as much worse - petty, even. I don't really think that gender plays as much of role in this election, because in my Hillary Clinton isn't really a "female" candidate - in the eyes of the electorate - she's actually perceived as an image of Bill Clinton. Seriously, if Nancy Pelosi or some other woman was running during this primary season, do you think she would had such an easy time with the electorate? No. I would love to see a "real woman" running for office in this country, and it would be a great refresher. I want to see someone run who isn't running on the premise of her husband's work or husband's "brand name." If an ordinary woman ran for office, maybe she would hold more wo men's interests at heart. However, I don't think Hillary really does hold women's interests at heart, I think she just cares about winning and getting world stature.

That's one reason why I'm voting for Obama. He's the best from the two. Hillary isn't really a "change" candidate, she's just another Bill and that, I feel is why so much of the electorate is voting for her. Not even really because of her platform, they just see another chance of getting her husband, and that's horrible.

[Exilednight]

80. Amen! n/t

[Unbowed]

54. In the future it will be known as Clinton Syndrome. n/t

[Exilednight]

99. Let's see if she fiddles while the Democratic party burns from her scorched earth campaign. n/t

[IsItJustMe]

28. For me, her nomination would represent the complete collapse of the Democratic party into the

Republican party. With the exception of a few issues, like abortion, which I have no strong feelings about one way or the other, I would no longer be compelled to select one party over the other.

[virtualobserver]

30. she will not win in any ordinary sense........

she is only hanging in there in the hope that something will occur that will completely destroy Obama before he nails down the 2024 delegates.

[jjr5]

74. Agree.

[Rosemary2205]

31. Good

She's not my first choice but it's about time a woman scares the heck out some people.

[Unbowed]

41. Problem is she's scaring the heck out of the wrong people. Democrats.

I've watched hearings where Barbara Boxer had Repukes quaking in their jackboots.

Now, that's the kind of fear I can get behind.

[barack the house]

35. It would more be sinking without trace can't reject a loyal base and new voters and be re-elected

[quantass]

38. .

[dansolo]

44. She'll also have the power of the executive branch at her beck and call

Remember how all of the non-bimbo scandals in the Clinton Administration all seemed to be focused on Hillary, as opposed to Bill.

[Ronnie]

48. That's exactly what my Republican brother said to me yesterday.

He said if it came down to a choice between Hillary and McCain he'd vote for her, because McCain is a wimp. He also said, "She reminds me of all the women in our family." BTW, all these women but one are STRONG Hillary supporters. And they've never heard of DU. There are a lot of them out there who've never been counted.

[Unbowed]

56. There a women who support Hillary Clinton in my family too.

They don't post at DU or visit the Internet for anything other than email and ebay. They only know about politics from what they read in the papers and on television.

So they don't know what Hillary Clinton is really like. They don't know she wants to nuke Iran or start WWIII in the Middle East. They don't hear it on the "news" so they don't believe it. The Internet is foreign turf to them and they don't listen to anyone who has anything negative to say about that "wonderful" woman.

In short, they know very little about the core of this woman they have thrown their support to because of her chromosomes.

Such a pity that ignorance prevails among so many people.

[FrenchieCat]

61. Low information voters. That's what has kept Hillary Clinton propped up

during these primaries.

[wiggs]

49. Bush and GOP had an ideology that drove their decisions, campaigns, relationships,

and policies. Nothing comes before the ideology....and this leads to lying, crimes, deception, power grabbing, mob-like nepotism and "any means that justify the ends."

Clinton's ideology is different and more narrow but it is strong and I believe we've already seen it affect her willingness to deceive, smear, compromise, rewrite history, throw anyone under the bus, and of course not give up when the writing is on the wall. Her ideology is that she's going to be a powerful first woman POTUS. There's nothing else. And if she gets into office that same ideology could cause her to be secretive, defensive, deceptive, arrogant, protective of friends, etc. similar to the current bunch (though she couldn't be as bad...not possible).

I don't think she'd be as dangerous because her ideology is not wrapped up some warped combination of religion, imperialism, corporatism, narrow morality, and apolcalyptic destiny... but who needs more secretive dysfunctional government? Not me.

[Unbowed]

58. My perspective is that we really don't know what her secret idealogy is.

I used to think of both Clintons as good Democrats, and truth be told, I liked Hillary Clinton better than former President Clinton. The reason? She seemed more progressive. Kinda funny in retrospect.

Frankly, I don't have a clue as to what really motivates Hillary Clinton.

[spin]

50. Since 1980 there has been a Bush or Clinton in the White House...

if you count George H. W. Bush's vice presidential tours.

Time for a change!

[AZBlue]

52. She's scarier than Bush & Rove combined.

I really didn't think that was possible.

[WeDidIt]

55. She doesn't scare me

She disappoints me, I'll grant that.

Now John W. McSame scares the ever loving feth outta me!

[StevieM]

60. See you in Denver (eom)

[rainlillie]

63. Do you think.....

She's crossed into the Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman territory? I do believe Hilary is a "republicrat."

[psychmommy]

71. absolutely and without shame

she's a corporate dem exactly like lieberman. kissing the behind of israel and ready to nuke a country-i am appalled. the msm disgusts me. we hear about dr wright but not nukem-gate.

[invictus]

64. K & R

[natrat]

66. she is pretty gross, hopefully it won't come to that

[JCMach1]

68. Get over it and recognize the real enemy

If I can quote Will Rogers I believe. "A Democrat may hurt you, but a Republican will kill you dead."

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[jjr5]

76. Nuking Iran for attacking another country in the region.

Doesn't SCARE you? Wow, you really must be superman. Maybe you could save us all then, but in the meantime I don't want someone who would do that to be president (who, by the way, is supposed to be levelheaded and INFORMED).

[wrando]

73. BOOO!

Bill from ct

[Unbowed]

82. You don't scare me, but this does:

:nuke: ====>IRAN

"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them." - Hillary Clinton

Hillary Strangelove
April 27, 2008

"AMERICANS have learned to take with a grain of salt much of the rhetoric in a campaign like the current Democratic donnybrook between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Still, there are some red lines that should never be crossed. Clinton did so Tuesday morning, the day of the Pennsylvania primary, when she told ABC's "Good Morning America" that, if she were president, she would "totally obliterate" Iran if Iran attacked Israel."

snip

"A presidential candidate who lightly commits to obliterating Iran - and, presumably, all the children, parents, and grandparents in Iran - should not be answering the White House phone at any time of day or night."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/27/hillary_strangelove/

And there is a history there:

"It was largely during the Clinton years, following the window of unprecedented opportunity that appeared with the end of the Cold War that the use of nuclear weapons to threaten nations suspected of possessing nuclear biological or chemical weapons became a central part of U.S. “counterproliferation” policy. Presidential Decision Directive-60 (PDD-60), signed by Bill Clinton in late 1997, recommitted the U.S. to nuclear weapons as the “cornerstone” of its national security and reaffirmed the U.S. policies of threatened first use and threatened massive retaliation. PDD-60 also further institutionalized a policy shift that had been underway for some time: nuclear weapons would now be used to “deter” a range of threats including not only nuclear, but also chemical and biological weapons, another means of lowering the threshold for potential nuclear weapons use.

Clinton also brokered a deal with the nuclear weapons laboratories – the direct decendents of the Manhattan Project – to massively invest in the nuclear weapons research and production infrastructure, through the euphemistically named “Stockpile Stewardship” program, in exchange for dropping their opposition to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. In the end, the Lab directors hedged in their testimony to Congress and the Senate refused to ratify the treaty. Today, under the existing Stockpile Stewardship Program, the Livermore and Los Alamos Labs are working on competing designs for so-called “Reliable Replacement Warheads” (the subject of some controversy in Congress), and “Life-Extension Programs” to render the U.S. nuclear arsenal reliable for decades to come are underway for the B61 bomb and the W76 Sea-Launched Ballistic Missile. The W-76, in fact, is being upgraded with an enhanced ground-burst capability, making it more suitable for a first strike against a hardened or deeply-buried target."

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8810

"Hillary, War with Iran is No Laughing Matter." - Senator Mike Gravel
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-mike-gravel/hillary-war-with-iran-is_b_66505.html

[wrando]

91. deterrence

scare them so there is no need to actually do it

[Unbowed]

97. If it were an isolated statement, I'd be inclined to agree. It wasn't.

She said some pretty hawkish things about the Middle East in the last debate.

[futureliveshere]

75. She scares me too.. She just might Obliterate parts of America that didn't vote for her. :-)

[Maineman]

77. Yes, Hillary bears a strong resemblance to Bush

The sum of Hillary and her husband add up to the same result as Bush and Rove.

[Maineman]

78. If Hillary is the nominee, there absolutely needs to be

a write-in action for Obama.

[N4457S]

79. She Won't Be...

...because the party won't let it happen.

Then again, Obama would have to win both Ohio and Pennsylvania. That's gonna be tough.

[NoodleyAppendage]

81. I'm with you completely. Hillary Clinton is NOT a true Democrat...and has NEVER BEEN one. n/t

J

[Pisces]

83. Amen, you are preaching to this choir.

[NorthCarolina]

85. I agree K&R n/t

[MH1]

86. She scares me, too.

For many of the same reasons you posted. Good post.

[netgui68]

89. I pray you are correct

If the party does sink this low...they can count count me out as a member going forward...I will change to the ever growing status of Independent. I am a white male...I do not hate blacks or women, what I do hate is liars, hippocrits, special interests groups running our country, war hawks, traitors against the party, and cheaters. If this describes someone that you know, then realize I hate that person not because they are a woman, but because of the traits they portray.

P.S. Has anyone other than myself noticed the blatent double standard in the media? to me it seems that one person in the race is sliced to shreds over any word or association while the white candidates get glossed over...by the way...they have way more baggage to use if the media wanted to.

[pipi_k]

90. Is there anyone here who's so afraid of her that...

they would willingly, or by default, vote for John McCain?

Before I get jumped on, I need to explain...at another site I go to, someone posted that Hillary needs to just go away. A point with which I agree, but then said that if, by some Act of God or miracle, she did end up with the Democratic nomination, I would just have to hold my nose and vote for her because the alternative (John Batshit Crazy McCain) was just too scary.

A couple of people said their consciences would not allow them to vote for her, and one said that she thought Hillary was LESS scary than McCain. Because she (Hillary) is a sociopath. To which I replied that just about anyone getting to a high point in DC has GOT to have a bit of sociopath in him/her...and McCain's surviving captivity in Vietnam shows that he is likely capable of doing or saying anything in order to survive...physically as well as politically.

Then there's that revolting photo of him hugging GWB during the RNC in 2004.... (excuse the projectile vomiting) :puke:


Is it just me, or is there something truly scary about John McCain that other people can't see over their hatred of Hillary? Besides his being a Republican, I mean....

[slinkerwink]

92. think Susan from Primary Colors. I watched that movie for the first time this weekend.

[Triana]

93. My sentiments too. Thank you for putting this so well. n/t

[CTLawGuy]

95. I think she would start at least one war

to prove how "tough" she is.

[grantcart]

96. The last time we had a Democratic President that felt compelled to 'outmacho' the Republicans

his name was Lydnon Johnson and Vietnam was his hobby.

[bulloney]

100. If Obama becomes the Dem nominee, how much damage did this campaign do for her Senate re-election?

[lilyannerose]

101. Amazing How Just a Little Bit of the Clintons

. . . seems to go a long way these days. In truth I'm rather sad. I'm one of those folks whose preference was Obama but thought I could feel good voting for Clinton. Those days are long over! I already have burn out with this current lying Administration, why would I possibly vote for the same ole same ole? Definitely suffering Clinton fatigue.:grr: