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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:29 PM Original message |
Poll question: Whether it's Obama, or Clinton.... |
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RazBerryBeret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. it needs to be fixed. |
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yellowdogintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. the chances of this happening again are not strong. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You make a good point. |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. No mater what the chances of it happening again are, it needs to be fixed. n/t |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. This current difficulty... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Two, or more, groups that matter. |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Superdelegate thing is sh***y... and I'm a Clinton supporter. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Something we can agree on. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. So in a follow up poll you'd say... |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
57. Yes. But change the rules first. I play by the rules, shi**y or not. |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. By the way, I'd be happy if Obama already had the nomination. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Spirit well taken, but... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Damaging to Obama |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. If it were up to me |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. My only beef is with the super delegate system. It needs to go, its time is done. n/t |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. If we drop super delegates... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Instant run-off? |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Yes, instant run off is a GREAT idea. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Maybe you could weight the two calculations. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. For every complex problem there is at least one answer that is simple, elegant and |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. (S)He with the most pledged delegates wins. Forget 51%, all you need is the most. n/t |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I'm apprehensive about 51% as the benchmark |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. Change it, here's some concerns... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. So what are some one-line poll-like questions? |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Try these... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. It is tough to make a good poll on this. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Given the limitations of the DU polling mechanism |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Implicit pre-requisite |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. If we had a Winner take all system.. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Is a 'winner take all' the best option, then? |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Congratulations! You're a __________ who can't stop sniping! |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. I agree that we can't change it this time. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Replaced. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I like the mail in ballots with one national counting day idea. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. It can still be state by state. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I was born in Oregon and still consider it home... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I work with both Beavers and Ducks. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Mail-in voting could be good. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. It's certainly worth looking at. n/t |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I see the challenge you point out. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yes, well stated... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. What do you think of how the states are drawn? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. End the Iowa/New Hampshire oligopoly. |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. Superdelegates are undemocratic. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. Just noticing... |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. I gave you one! |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Oh - I am in the wrong place. |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Perhaps I'm on the vast Ignore/Let it sink list |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Lucky for me... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Good to hear.... |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. 6 weeks without a primary state is messed up. n/t |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. So the one liner would be... |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Yeah, less lengthy gaps in between primary states |
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rock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. Well it is ironic |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. I would favor each state holding primaries instead of caucuses. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Part of the reason for caucuses... |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
48. I actually like the Texas system. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I like Texas, too. |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I have thought about the idea of 4 or so groups of states voting in a |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. So, you'd prefer a single nation-wide date? |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. No, no, no - quite the opposite. Go back to my first post |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. OK, got it... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Two stages might be a good idea. |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Pretty much, though what I'm proposing wouldn't shorten it by much |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
54. I would eliminate caucuses. |
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RichardRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Are you OK with vote by mail? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
64. Should be/reality |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. First step: Detect problem |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. It really |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. We can make it not depend on who is nominated. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. But the problem is what is "fixing"? |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-27-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I new someone would latch onto the word "fixing" |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
67. Apparently 90% don't care. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
69. I am in favor of caucuses for every state. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
71. use the winner take all delegate system |
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Midwestern Democrat (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
73. A valuable thread and I agree with a lot of the ideas put forward. |
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