The Clintons are making a whole lot of history here in this campaign, but sorry to say, it's not

[IsItJustMe]

the good kind of history.

We all know what Hillary is arguing for here when she says Obama can't win. We all see it for what it is. Hillary, you ain't fooling no one.

Let's quit pretending and call it like it is.

If you agree with this argument and/or strategy, fine, that's your choice.

But for me, this is not what the Democratic party is all about, nor should it ever be.

[Solomon]

1. You said it in a much better way than I did.

[IsItJustMe]

3. Thank you. That means a lot to me, coming from you.

[EFerrari]

7. Disagree. You both said it very plainly and very well. n/t

[Solomon]

13. Thanks to both of you. I stopped posting for a couple of years

and only recently started up again. I usually read everyday though.

[Solomon]

14. delete

[Solomon]

15. delete

[papau]

2. there will be little movement to the left - no health plan - with Obama

Obama campaign is now saying their will be no universal health written by administration introduced to Congress - they will just encourage hearings

Previously the campaign told Kudlow of CNBC that they do not expect to pass any of the social programs promised - they are just campaign talk - and therefore Kudlow need not worry about any deficit increase because of Obama programs.

Likewise Canada was told by Obama campaign that NAFTA termination threat was just campaign talk - as was out of Iraq in 16 months.

Just what is the difference between what we should expect after an Obama win compared to a McCain win?

Only Hillary guarantees change will be fought for - Obama would be fighting for GOP love so as to "change the politics" in Washington.

[DJ13]

5. Hillary is a pro-corporate candidate, she wouldnt know change if...

.....it bit her on her ass.

[EFerrari]

8. You really need to stop posting misinformation.

Surely your candidate has enough plus points that can occupy you.

[Skidmore]

16. There will be a whole lot of movement toward the right as discrimination is deemed permissible

by giving it the seal of approval, either by omission or commission, by a Democrat in office. THAT will be the effect of the campaign Clinton has run. It will be alright to exclude.

[IsItJustMe]

19. My thoughts exactly.

[Frances]

4. I will support Obama 100% in the general

But Obama needs to convince the white blue-collar voters that he will be as good for them as Bill Clinton was.

Giving a speech in front of the gas pumps in Indiana was a very smart move.

But praising the Indiana Republican Senator Lugar was not a smart move. That kind of talk makes working class folks think he doesn't understand the realities of their lives or the realities of politics.

[Maddy McCall]

6. What's she arguing for? Why don't you just come out and say it in your OP....

instead of all the murky inuendo.

[IsItJustMe]

9. I am going to be just as coy as Hillary can be Maddy. Wink wink.

[Solomon]

12. LOL What a joke. See?! The pretense is preposterous!

Somebody has to spell it out since we've only been drowned literally 24/7 by it.

People go a long way to avoid it, ya know. It's astonishing to witness it.

[IsItJustMe]

17. I can't explain it. Maybe thats why I have the user name of IsItJustMe.

It is either in the water or we are just so heavily influenced and conditioned by our bull shit petty excuse of a media that people can't see the truth, even when it comes up and smacks them up side their head like a 2 by 4.

I pick the latter.

[Cha]

10. hilary lies and whines..

so whatever comes out is not worthy to even consider..same with her spouse.

That's what they've done in this primary.

[C_U_L8R]

11. The sheer psychodrama of it all

is fascinating. Shakespearean to say the least.

[Lerkfish]

18. not shakespearen: greek tragedy, where the protagonist has a fatal flaw that eventual

brings them down.

that is the clintons, their hubris and entitlement and political tonedeaf triangulation is their fatal flaw. Its their own fault, and they will fall because of it.

its a greek tragedy.