Newsweek Poll: Obama still leads Hillary 48%-41% nationally; has highest favorable rating of all

[book_worm]

The Newsweek poll out today indicates that the PA win did give Hillary some momentum (it's rpevious poll gave Obama a 20-point lead nationally, higher than any other poll, such as Gallup or Rasmussen where Obama had led by about eight to ten points) but overall Obama still leads her nationally by 48%-41%. Of the three candidates for president (Dem/Rep) Obama still has the highest favorable rating and Hillary the lowest and the only one of the three with higher disapproval rating than approval rating.

Obama: 53% Favorable/ 40% Unfavorable (net +13 favorable)
McCain: 51% Favorable/ 41% Unfavorable (net +10 favorable)
Clinton: 47% Favorable/ 49% Unfavorable (net +2 Unfavorable)

Both Obama and Clinton beat McCain by three points (no change from the previous Newsweek poll).

http://www.newsweek.com/id/134254

[Coexist]

1. I thought that 20 point lead was odd

Clinton's favoribility ratings are beginning to look like someone else we all know.

[my3boyz]

3. The pundits would not even talk about the 20 pt poll..they laughed about it

and said it was ridiculous to think that in a race where polls had been tight all along that Obama would just open a 20 pt lead. Especially, when all the other polls showed him leading by single digits.

[DerekJ]

2. The 20 points poll was the outlier, that's more close to reality.

[quantass]

4. Can we get on with Obama vs McCain already -- this trivial Clinton thing is boring now that its done

[FrenchieCat]

12. I know....the media is even bored....which is why they are again

pastorbaiting!

[Yossariant]

31. Obama vs McCain right here:

Electoral Votes: Obama 243 McCain 269

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Apr27.html

[PBS Poll-435]

34. Wow...This is bad.

[DearAbby]

5. When he is our official Nominee...

those numbers will rise. His message will resonate with the People. It can only get better.

[DontTreadOnMe]

6. Interesting...

Did Hillary just drop from second place to third?

[DearAbby]

8. the numbers

the math doesn't lie...Clinton doesn't stand a chance to overtake Obama's lead...by her remaining in the race, is only to damage his chances in the GE, to increase her(delusional)chances for 2012.

[featherman]

7. Memo to political parties: Do not nominate the candidate with the highest

disapproval rate".
Signed,
Politics 101

[jackson_dem]

17. Politics 101 graduates don't take such a face value view of such numbers

That is like looking at "Coleman 50, Franken 43" and concluding Coleman has a comfortable lead (any incumbent at 50% or below will be in trouble by November because the undecideds will flock to the challenger). Obama's unfavorables are rapidly rising. The only reason his are better right now is because he is newer and has been attacked far less. No serious political observer, which includes superdelegates, is going to put any stock in his current number because it is unrealistically low. Obama's own trajectory confirms this. Last July in the same poll his unfavorables were 19% (Clinton and McSame have dipped only slightly for where they were two years ago). They are now 40% and have jumped from 28% just 7 weeks ago.

[chill_wind]

9. Very interesting -- "Elitist" tag -- Hillary 32% ....Obama 25%

On the charge of elitism that has dogged Obama since the "small town" flap, 25% of respondents said he looks down on people like them, with 65% saying he does not. This was in fact slightly better than Clinton's 32%-61% rating on this issue.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[Mooney]

10. This is funny shit.

This exact same poll was posted by a Hillary supporter, as proof that Obama was tanking! I wish I could be that delusional. I would be much happier.

Where oh where are the men with butterfly nets to end this stupidity already?

[book_worm]

13. I know this is why I posted this

The First Newsweek poll with Obama at 20-pts ahead of Hillary was an outlier, obviously, no other poll gave him such a lead. Now that it has straightened itself out and is in line with other national polls they use it as evidence that he has tanked. Hillary's disapproval numbers just keep rising.

[jackson_dem]

18. He went from 19% unfavorables from July 07' to 28% by the beginning of March 08'

That is an increase of 9% over six months. Since then he has climbed 12% in less than two months as the MSM has begun vetting him. That is tanking--and the rethug machine has not fully went after him yet. He has a glass jaw and that is scary.

[psychopomp]

29. There will come a day when we look back at this primary

and many supporters of Sen. Clinton's campaign will look a lot like those of Ron Paul.

[FrenchieCat]

11. Looks like Obama is at the top of the class!

[psychopomp]

14. To the top!

:kick:

[FrenchieCat]

15. Kick!

[jackson_dem]

16. You didn't mention his favorable rating is tanking

Of course he has the highest rating in April. How long have the other two been in the national spotlight? At the rate Obama is tanking he may surpass both in unfavorables by the end of June.

[mikekohr]

19. Senator Obama's "Favorable" Rating is 13% HIGHER than his "Negative,"

Senator Clinton's "favorable," rating is 2% LOWER than her "negative." By comparison, if his favorable is "tanking," as you say, what pejorative would you use to describe Senator Clinton's standing?


Senator Obama: -highest favorable/lowest negative = Most Favorable Candidate****
Senator McSurge: -2nd highest favorable/2nd lowest negative = 2nd most favorable candidate
Senator Clinton: -lowest favorable/highest negatives = 3rd most favorable candidate



mike kohr
-Victory in '08-

[jackson_dem]

22. Steady. Her unfavorable rating now is 4% higher than it was two years agp

What was Kerry's favorable rating in April? What was it in November? You guys are still buying the fairy tale that Obama's favorable rating will remain high even though his trajectory is clearly downward, and since the vetting began rapidly downward.

Even with higher favorable ratings Obama does only a few tenths better in the poll average than Clinton against McSame and he consistently does worse in the electoral college. Clearly there is something holding folks who like him back from voting for him (inexperience). He can't win with high favorable ratings. How can he win when his ratings become low in the general election? At the rate he is going he will be above 50% unfavorables by June. He can't win now. How can he win then?

[book_worm]

27. thanks for kicking this thread twice!

:)

[jackson_dem]

33. You follow polls. It is said you are also whistling past the graveyard

That won't be possible on November 4.

[book_worm]

39. Thanks for another kick.

[jackson_dem]

40. Here is another

I don't desire to gag facts. That is the behavior of cult members who have their lovely Chairman's propaganda art on their wall.

[Frank Booth]

38. Right. And there's no way that Hillary, who is a fundamentally unlikable person, is going to turn

her negative rating around. People just don't like her. Many people can't stand the sight of her.

The Republicans would have loved it if she got the nomination. Despite the fact that McCain's not popular among far-right Republicans, nearly every far-right Republican in the country would have come out to vote against Hillary. The down-ticket Dems would have gotten killed. She also had no chance of getting independents, which any Democrat needs to do well with to win. And now she's succeded in alienating many Democrats.

Talk about a general election disaster.

[ClassWarrior]

23. Once again, a double standard. He's like a million ahead of her...

...but because he drops one or two points, the dark fellow "is tanking."

:rofl:

And you never answered me the other day. How long have you known about caucuses?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

26. Hmmm... why do some posters disappear when the tough questions come up?

Just wonderin... :shrug:

NGU.

[jackson_dem]

30. 1-2 points is not tanking

This is:

Obama's favorables

Current: 53/40
4/16/08: 57/36
3/5/08: 61/28
7/07: 56/19
5/06: 34/10

Ooh, a "hard question"! :sarcasm: Where did I sign an agreement to support caucuses? Did you sign an agreement to accept superdelegates' role? Not all of us are cultists who march in lock-step to a cult leader.

[Genevieve]

24. spin -

kepp spinning.

[catgirl]

20. K & R

[me b zola]

21. net +2 Unfavorable

And this is the campaign that is pushing an idiotic meme that her opponent is unelectable? Jesus H Christ!

Hillary Clinton has a net +2 unfavorable rating!

[jackson_dem]

32. Ordinarily yes but when 47% and rising think you are unqualified to be prez favorables don't matter

More people right now would have a beer with him. That doesn't mean they think he can protect their kids from being blown up by terrorists. He is unelectable because he is losing to McSame right now and his trajectory is scary as he gets better known. Only Obamites ignore trends and believe the fairy tale that he will be as strong in November as he is now as he gets vetted and attacked by rethugs.

In the same poll Kerry's net favorable rating was +17 in April 2004 (down from +31 at the end of January. Notice the trend?). What happened to him? Bush was +40 in January of 2000 in the Newsweek poll. A month later he slipped to +19. Where did he wind up by November? I bet his flock was ignoring the trend too. Want another example? Bill Bradley was +25 in September of 99' in the Newsweek poll. Two months later that slipped slightly to +23. By February it was down to +7.

[Triana]

35. jackson_dem

Do you think you're going to change anybody's mind about who to vote for here? If you do, you've got rather unrealistic 'favorability' ratings of YOURSELF. People who want to will change their choices because of their OWN reasons - NOT your "brilliant" opinions about who is or isn't best. Lay off. WHO died and appointed YOU the King of Political Analyses? Did it ever occur to you that in the end you might be (*gasp!*) WRONG?

Or go back to that crossroads where you took the wrong turn (where it said "Free Republic") and get back on the road you should've taken in the first place. You're accomplishing exactly nothing here. Except making a butt out of yourself. Jeeze.

[jackson_dem]

36. Of course not. The "netroots" is driven by emotion, not reason when it comes to Clinton

OJ Simpson and Charles Manson would get 95% "netroots" support over Clinton if they were in Obama's place as her opponent. I just get a kick at the fairy tales the netroots believe.

That is the beauty of relying on facts. What people think of me is irrelevant. I put the facts on the table and people can reach their own conclusions. The trajectory for him is clear to anyone who has more than two brain cells or is not drinking the red stuff.

If I am wrong put together a rational, factual counterargument. Your failure to do so and substitution of ad hominem attacks for discussion of the issues is very revealing. The irony is this is exactly what your hero claims he is going to "transform" in our politics.

If Obama is the nominee I will do what I can to help him win. If he loses the general election, though, we will deserve it as a party. We were warned. If we got stuck with him in February that would be one thing but we had ample time to accumulate enough information to make a smart choice. If we don't we have to pay the price. See you on November 5.

[psychopomp]

25. BTTT

:kick:

[Scurrilous]

28. K & R

:thumbsup:

[madrchsod]

37. they are running against each other in the general election?

these polls are meaningless....

the only polls that count are the ones where john is matched up against who ever wins the demomcratic nomination.

[AntiFascist]

41. K&R, Obama...

Is the most electable,

Has the most delegates,

Maintains his momentum,

and continues to be the most popular.