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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:05 PM
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When Hillary's camp cites "memo" as race card, they always leave out the details before and after it
The other day bill tried to use cheap reverse psychology in an attempt to race bait:

Bill Clinton Claims Obama Camp Played the Race Card Against Him

April 22, 2008 7:58 AM

In his inimitable fashion, former President Bill Clinton told Philadelphia's WHYY radio that his South Carolina-primary comparison of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, to Rev. Jesse Jackson is an example of HIS being the victim of ugly racial politics.

Listen to the interview HERE.

“I think that they played the race card on me," Clinton said. "We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it along."

It's unclear what "memos" he was referring to.

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When Bill got caught trying to use the Hillary campaign's old spin, he tried to to lie his way out of it:

Bill: I Didn't Say Obama Camp Played Race Card On Me

By Greg Sargent - April 22, 2008, 1:00PM

Bill Clinton, in a new interview, appears to deny that he said yesterday that the Obama camp was playing the race card on him:

NBC/NJ: "Sir, what did you mean yesterday when you said that the Obama campaign was playing the race card on you?"

CLINTON: "When did I say that, and to whom did I say that?"

NBC/NJ: "On WHYY radio yesterday"

CLINTON: "No, no, no. That's not what I said. You always follow me around and play these little games, and I'm not going to play your games today. This is a day about election day. Go back and see what the question was, and what my answer was. You have mischaracterized it to get another cheap story to divert the American people from the real urgent issues before us, and I choose not to play your game today. Have a nice day."


Yesterday, Bill said: "I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign that they planned to do it (all) along."

The Clinton campaign confirms that Bill was refering to this memo written by an Obama campaign aide, which sought to highlight a pattern of race-based politicking on the part of the Clintons. It was never clear who the intended recipient of it was. And it's true that Obama himself said during a debate that he regretted the memo.

But while the memo appeared to encourage people to see a Clinton camp pattern of race-based politics, it didn't reveal any plan to play the race card against him all along, as Bill said.

Separately, Ben Smith offers this poignant observation on Bill's latest: "It is a reminder of what an utterly different era it was in which he was the reigning political master."


Poor Bill.

Like I said, it's not the first time Hillary camp has cited the "race memo" as evidence of Obama's race baiting.

Look at the dates in the memo:

Earliest date: DRUG USE (ABC News, 12/12/07)

(Here is a link)

Latest date: SHUCK AND JIVE (Newsday, 1/11/08)

That memo was obviously written after Jan. 11, days after Hillary's MLK comment and a full month after the drug use comment by the Clinton campaign.

Asked for evidence of the Obama campaign's role in fomenting the controversy, a Clinton aide cited a staff memo, leaked to political blogs, that compiled quotes by Clinton and her allies that seemed racially insensitive.

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So after injecting racially charged comments into the debate and accusing Obamas's campaign of race baiting, Hillary's campaign's proof is a memo written after all her campaign's deliberate race baiting, which has continued:

Drug dealer, fairy tale, imaginary hip black friend, gang bang, cult, shuck-and-jive, Hispanics don't vote for black people, Obama is Somalian, Obama meets with former terrorists, all from Hillary's campaign and surrogates.

The thing about making the claim, again, is that they've already issued some weak apologies (excuses) for race baiting. Hillary at an event hosted by Tavis Smiley:

February 23, 2008, 7:53 pm

Clinton Offers Regrets for Spouse’s Remarks

By Julie Bosman

NEW ORLEANS – Appearing before a predominantly black audience here Saturday afternoon, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton defended her husband’s legacy on race relations and offered an apology of sorts for comments he made in South Carolina several weeks ago that many people viewed as racially insensitive.

In a question-and-answer session after her speech at the State of the Black Union event, Mrs. Clinton was asked by Tavis Smiley, the host of the event, how she felt about “what some termed racial comments” by Mr. Clinton.

“I think there are enough of you here today who know him personally and know his heart,” she said, then stopped for a long pause. “If anyone was offended about anything that was said, whether it was meant or not, whether it was misinterpreted or not, then obviously I regret that.”

<...>

Mrs. Clinton’s brief appearance in New Orleans was not a traditional campaign stop, considering that Louisiana has already held its contest – on Feb. 9 – and voted decisively for Mr. Obama, who won by 22 points.

According to a campaign spokesman, Mrs. Clinton had agreed to attend the event after bumping into Mr. Smiley several weeks ago in Los Angeles.

more


Bill at black churches:

February 2, 2008

Bill Clinton to make black church tour Sunday

Former President Bill Clinton will visit black churches in LA this Sunday.

(CNN) – In the run-up to Super Tuesday, former President Bill Clinton is planning a tour of African-American churches this Sunday in Los Angeles. A prominent elected official who will be joining him has described it as Clinton’s 'mea culpa tour' to the black community.

The former President set off a firestorm of criticism for comments he made during the South Carolina primary, comments which were widely interpreted as racially insensitive. He’s adamantly denied he was playing racial politics. Exit polls show President Clinton’s seemingly aggressive campaigning may have contributed to the stunning defeat his wife Hillary Clinton suffered in the primary there.

According to CNN exit polling, a majority of South Carolina voters said Bill Clinton’s campaigning was important to their vote — 48 percent of them cast ballots for Barack Obama, while 37percent went for Sen. Clinton. And CNN has reported some of the former President’s controversial remarks on the trail may have contributed to Senator Ted Kennedy’s decision to endorse Sen. Obama.

The President’s tour of African-American churches comes as the Clinton campaign fights to win a coveted prize on Super Tuesday – delegate-rich California – where African Americans make up 7 percent of Democratic primary voters.

more


Bill and Hillary's new attempts at race baiting is not sitting well with Rep. James Clyburn.


Plenty of African-American officials, including Rep. James Clyburn, D-SC, the House Majority Whip, assuredly disagree with Clinton's interpretation of that controversy. Clyburn told me a few weeks ago that African-Americans, especially those from the South, "know the code words when we hear them."

link


While Hillary's camp is using the memo, again, to claim race baiting, Hillary is questioning Obama's patriotism and implying that he has ties to terrorists.

Appears the memo needs to be updated.




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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:17 PM
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1. Excellent, intelligent, well-informed piece ...
... but coming from you, I'd be shocked if it wasn't.

:applause:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:26 PM
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2. Thank you. n/t
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:30 PM
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3. I suggest all you read this DU post
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:32 PM
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4. I suggest you read
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:50 PM
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9. The Emperor's New Clothes.
That's all that thread is. No there there. This thread actually provides evidence. Not a tarted up CT.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:39 PM
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5. Well laid out, as always, Prosense. K and R.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:48 PM
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6. Obama apologizes for race baiting memo, tells staff to never do it again. Link:
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 09:13 PM by MethuenProgressive
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:54 PM
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10. “A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,”
From your link:

Obama aides began raising questions last week about a series of comments from Clinton, her husband and supporters.

“A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver told Politico last week. Tolliver, who oversees outreach to minority media, was not the author of the memo.

“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments — and not just these latest comments but really a pattern or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” Tolliver said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation, or is there something bigger behind all of this?”

The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement — an aide later said she misspoke — to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama’s image in the media as a “fairy tale” — generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television.

After a weekend of bitter back-and-forth between Obama and Clinton aides and supporters, the candidates themselves called for a truce Monday in the racially tinged debate.



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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:02 PM
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11. ...so says a paid Obama staff hack.
What else would that POS say?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:04 PM
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12. "What else would that POS say?" Nasty! Truth hurts? n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:15 PM
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15. Take some asprin. You must be in great pain.
The Truth is raining down like rain, and washing Obama down the drain.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:17 PM
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16. No, Obama is winning, I'm happy. Hillary's backers are jumping ship
:)

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:48 PM
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7. Great post. K&R
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:48 PM
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8. K & R.
It's one thing to use the Clinton tactics, it's another to use them while projecting the same divisiveness upon your opponent, who tried the best he could to let race not become an issue in this campaign.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:58 PM
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18. Let's see how long Hillary's campaign continues to smear Wright. n/t
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:04 PM
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13. If their lips are moving, they're lying.
And I've heard Hillary race bait with my own two ears (MTP Jan 13 of this year) so I know exactly what she's doing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:08 PM
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17. They both lie with ease. n/t
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 09:05 PM
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14. Excellent! K/R.
:kick:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:22 PM
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19. Fanning the flames of racism...
since Iowa. I don't think it would be so hurtful if it were coming from the other side. But coming from a "Democrat" it is not only ugly, it is a betrayal. The good news is that they've been pimping this shit, and it hasn't worked. Like the 24/7 resuscitation of excerpts from a Sermon, it gets old. It is frightening that this is what is being used to win an election, but by the time the GOP comes up to bat they will have to have something else. That horse will have nothing left to it, the way Hillary is beating it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:22 AM
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21. Exactly. n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:25 PM
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20. Good Post!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:01 PM
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22. Thanks. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:35 PM
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23. "senior campaign advisor to Senator Clinton...is exploiting that same right-wing network"
Former journalist Sidney Blumenthal has been widely credited with coining the term "vast right-wing conspiracy" used by Hillary Clinton in 1998 to describe the alliance of conservative media, think tanks, and political operatives that sought to destroy the Clinton White House where he worked as a high-level aide. A decade later, and now acting as a senior campaign advisor to Senator Clinton, Blumenthal is exploiting that same right-wing network to attack and discredit Barack Obama. And he's not hesitating to use the same sort of guilt-by-association tactics that have been the hallmark of the political right dating back to the McCarthy era.

Almost every day over the past six months, I have been the recipient of an email that attacks Obama's character, political views, electability, and real or manufactured associations. The original source of many of these hit pieces are virulent and sometimes extreme right-wing websites, bloggers, and publications. But they aren't being emailed out from some fringe right-wing group that somehow managed to get my email address. Instead, it is Sidney Blumenthal who, on a regular basis, methodically dispatches these email mudballs to an influential list of opinion shapers -- including journalists, former Clinton administration officials, academics, policy entrepreneurs, and think tankers -- in what is an obvious attempt to create an echo chamber that reverberates among talk shows, columnists, and Democratic Party funders and activists. One of the recipients of the Blumenthal email blast, himself a Clinton supporter, forwards the material to me and perhaps to others.

These attacks sent out by Blumenthal, long known for his fierce and combative loyalty to the Clintons, draw on a wide variety of sources to spread his Obama-bashing. Some of the pieces are culled from the mainstream media and include some reasoned swipes at Obama's policy and political positions.

link


The superdelegates have this BS on their hands.

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:20 AM
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24. Kick
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 12:32 AM
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25. If this bothers you, don't get mad. Get EVEN.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:05 AM
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26. Hillary supporters are completely disingenuous. It's futile. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 05:25 PM
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27. Anyone citing this memo to attack Obama
is either delusional or lying (it's beyond spin, the facts have been out there long enough).


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