Hillary does not want FL and MI resolved. Her campaign is dependent on the uncertainty.

[JBoy]

For all the teeth-gnashing and sputtering of the Clinton army about the importance of not disenfranching the voters of Florida and Pennsylvania, she benefits significantly more if the situation of those states is NOT resolved.

So long as she can point to FL and MI as a reason to cast doubt on, or to discredit Obama's lead, she has sufficient fog under which to perpetuate the legitimacy of her campaign. If ever a "fair" resolution were to be reached for those states, she would find herself significantly more naked with respect to the delegate math.

Hillary has no particular interest in seating the delegations of FL and MI. She needs them as cover while she either works a miracle or prays for an Obama meltdown.

[Birthday]

1. Interesting idea. nt

[madfloridian]

2. FL and MI are her tickets to convention...using them as tools.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1927

[NanceGreggs]

3. Precisely!

Well said!

:kick: & REC'D!

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. That's why she refuses to present a reasonable solution, but only

resolutions that heavily favor her. If she gets a lop-sided agreement, she wins. If she can accuse Obama of being obstructionist, she wins. Probably Penn's strategy - used a lot in union busting.

[ecdab]

5. spot on.

[JBoy]

6. True, if she were at all serious, the media would be chewing on details of her "proposal"

[Rageneau]

8. It's hard to offer a reasonable solution to someone who is running away from you as fast as he can.

Hillary has offered to sponsor complete new revotes in Florida and Michigan, so that the voters in those states would have their fair say. But Obama has refused to agree to revotes, no matter how fair they would be, because the LAST thing he wants is for the will of the voters in Florida and Michigan to become clear.

Better ro run away from debates.

Better to run away from honest revotes.

Better to run away from Rezko and Wright and Ayers.

Better to run away and hide behind the skirts of Tweety and Keith Obamaman.

Obama is our little run run run run runaway.

[VolcanoJen]

10. So, are you going to give him a medal...

... for not running away from the first 21 debates, then?

Michigan and Florida legislatures voted down the re-votes. It's a state issue, not up to the candidates. There's also that pesky "DNC Rules" thing that Hillary's own Harold Ickes spearheaded back when it looked like they were about to fuck with her inevitable "this will be over on Super Tuesday" campaign master plan.

Rezko? The Chicago Tribune is satisfied with his answers, even if you aren't. Maybe Obama will sit down with you for almost two hours and answer every one of your burning Rezko questions.

Rev. Wright? Remember the "A More Perfect Union" speech? You define that as "running away"? Most of us would call it, "Taking the shit head-on and giving one kick-ass, unforgettable, historic speech" in response.

Ayers? Good Gawd, the McCarthyism is palpable. But, Obama has forthrightly denounced Ayers' actions in the 60's. What would satisfy you, exactly? Oh, I know. Obama drops out. Not likely, but one can dream.

What else you got? This stuff is pretty easily and summarily dismissed.

[alphafemale]

14. You do realize it was not up to Hillary to dictate what was going to happen.

There is that little thing of legality and courts involved.

Obama is not running.

He's following the rules.

[FlyingSquirrel]

7. Absolutely. I thought this went without saying

but apparently not.

[alphafemale]

9. Oh...kind of like the rw and abortion. Or dentists and cavities.

Yeah. I get it.

[hayu_lol]

11. Actually, Hillary proposed a revote in Michigan...

Obama was unwilling to allow it. What he wants is 50% of the votes in Michigan. He stopped the possibility of a revote.

Poor little fella, he took his own name off the ballot. He was not required to do that. By his own actions, he is partly responsible for the problem with Michigan.

He turned down the revote possibility.

[alphafemale]

12. Obama rejecting it made it so? You sure it wasn't something else that negated a revote?

Think and research carefully before you answer.

[ecdab]

13. It amazing - Hillary supporters don't seem to have an understanding

of what has happened in Michigan's, what the Hillary re-vote proposal was, why Obama wasn't jumping for joy at a proposal that excluded much of his base, and what the Michigan court system actually did to that proposal.

It just about spinning the situation to attack Obama - many Hillary supporters are detaching from reality it would seem. I almost never hear an honest argument from a Clinton supporter about MI.

[madfloridian]

15. Lie. It was the state that said no revote....just like FL did.

It was the states that were against the revote.