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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:40 AM
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What was hillary's response to the NC ad?
Was just wondering if any one had links, I've been away from DU for a few days, thanks!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:44 AM
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1. What do you think. NO RESPONSE.
She was perfectly happy to sit back and let it all unfold instead of speaking out against it and stand up for a fellow Democrat.

She's disgusting.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:22 AM
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6. LOL
poor bama, does he need help, again?

:nopity:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:43 AM
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34. Not from the political afterthought that is Hillary Clinton -
Soon she will take her rightful place in this world and be relegated to the footnote she really is - a person who would NEVER be where she is without being married to a President, probably not have a Senate seat without his coat tails....

It will be nice to remember her as the first serious female contender for the nomination, though.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 06:51 AM
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2. But surely she was asked about this
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 06:52 AM by 4themind
So did she just say "no comment"? The crux of the ad is he's too extreme to be president, if she doesn't renounce the ad without modification, she can fairly be seen as not renouncing the notion that he's "too extreme" to be president in this case and time.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:17 AM
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3. I don't belive she was asked
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:45 AM
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22. Per KO she as and had yet to comment
:kick;
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:19 AM
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4. google is a useful tool: Hillary Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said: “The ad is outrageous
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 07:23 AM by GoldieAZ49
Hillary Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said: “The ad is outrageous and it should come down.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/24/mccain-camp-under-false-impression-that-nc-gop-obama-ad-was-killed/



Not that she or any one else needs to defend or protect Obama, he is tough enough to handle his own baggage...isn't he?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:25 AM
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8. Sure, he's tough enough, sad that you don't grasp that this attack is
on all dems and that's why Clinton should have responded. Here's there very fucked up response.

Clinton Camp Responds to NC GOP Ad (Finally!)
April 25, 2008 4:00 PM

It took hours for the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to weigh in on the North Carolina Republican Party TV ad that calls Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, "radical" and purports to attempt to harm two Democratic Tarheel State gubernatorial candidates -- Bev Perdue and Richard Moore -- by tying them to Rev. Jeremiah Wright via Obama.

The Clinton camp was in an odd spot, after all. This ad is Exhibit A in her case to superdelegates against Obama, that he will be the victims of such smears, some of them racial. So they wouldn't necessarily want to shut it down.

On the other hand, how could they not comment on an ad so many Democratic voters find offensive? Especially after the RNC and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., decried the ad? (Not to mention the two North Carolina TV stations announcing they would not broadcast it.)

So finally, from spokesman Jay Carson, comes the response to the ad against Purdue and Moore, that seeks to more pointedly hurt Obama.

"Even though they (Perdue and Moore) are supporting Senator Obama they are good Democrats, and this ad is wrong," Carson says, in a statement sent to ABC News' Eloise Harper. "It's exactly the kind of ad Republicans run every cycle to distract us from their failures and the real issues that face our country."

That's curiously worded.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/clinton-camp-re.html
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:31 AM
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12. It is exactly what the SD's will look at. How Obama is going to affect dem candidates
running down ticket.

They will lose many elections based on that. That is why dems have the SD's system, to protect dems from a weak or liability at the top of the ticket.



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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:33 AM
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14. bwahahaha. SD after SD has said just the opposite- as they continue
coming out for Obama. Obama is widely seen as having coattails and hillypoo is seen as having... none. zip. How many SD endorsements has she gotten over the last 3 months compared to Obama, genius?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:37 AM
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how many have voted genius?
let me guess......NONE
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:41 AM
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19. they've endorsed, sweetie.
they've spoken publically, dearie. Denial, the fortress of hilldroids.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:58 AM
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29. Endorsements are not votes
They can change at any time, for any reason. Capiche?

Endorsements are non-binding, even pledged delegates are not required to vote for who they are pledged to. Read the RULES of the party.

Dean says superdelegates are free agents

"They should use whatever yardstick they want," Dean said in an interview at party headquarters. "That's what the rules provide for."

Asked about Hillary Rodham Clinton's suggestion that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment and not feel bound by the standings after June 3 -- the day the nominating season ends -- Dean replied: "That's what the rules say, and I enforce the rules."

snip


Still, the chairman rejected the notion that he or any other party leader -- Pelosi, Reid, former Vice President Al Gore or former President Carter -- could step in and unilaterally end the nominating contest.

"Name one person in the last 40 years who's done that," Dean said, leaning forward in his chair. "There's no power in the DNC to make people do things that the rules don't prescribe."

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-superdelegates2apr02,0,1542205.story

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:49 AM
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26. La la land. Without the AA vote in NC they will be defeated.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:17 AM
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32. So AA voters are going to hold the party hostage and force them to lose with Obama
or lose with Hillary?

Just in NC or nationally?



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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:46 AM
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25. "Even though they support Obama, they are good Democrats" - you're right, that's fucked up.
She really doesn't want Obama-supporting activists to EVER support her, does she?
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:56 AM
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28. I understand the concern....
but really we are radical compared to the GOP and Obama is a breath of fresh air in a garbage dump of rotten smells. I don't mind the label, if the electorate is going to be swayed by an ad like this, they are truly voting against their own best interests.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:20 AM
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5. It was very strange. I saw it on a thread here yesterday
I'll try and find it. It deserves its own thread.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:22 AM
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7. It is not Hillary's job to stop Obama from embracing his nutty preacher.n
ad nauseam with the Rev.

:puke:
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:27 AM
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9. now don't go acting like Obama is wimp and cannot handle his own problems
without demanding Hillary defend him...like his sheeple do!

:rofl:


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:27 AM
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10. The ad attacks two NC gubanatorial candidates, genius
it's typically stupid hillyworld shit, to issue a pathetic parsing piece of shit. I posted it upthread.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:35 AM
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16. yes it does, and all dem candidates can and will be subjected to it.
Doubt there will be many new dems voted into office this election if they have the Obama & Wright stigma attached to them.

Super Delegates will take it into consideration.

And the upcoming presidential primary on NC will not be affected by the ad, that is why Obama Nation wants a response from Hillary....huh?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:46 AM
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23. yeah, and if hapless hillykins was the nominee, we'd get
pork futures, Vince Foster, sleazy pardons and reams more, dear. Even you should recognize that.

Yes, the NC primary may be impacted by the ad- though Obama will still win. You do realize that the ad will galvanize dems including the 22% of the electorate there that's AA?
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:37 AM
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17. No shit, Sherlock. More DEMOCRATIC victims of Obama's stupidity.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:41 AM
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18. There will be many with Obama at the top of the ticket
Few dems down ticket will be able to withstand such an onslaught

They should not be put in the position of defending Obama on Wright...Obama couldn't even do it
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:42 AM
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20. lol. Watson
typical moronic hillbot "logic". It has nothing to do with Obama being "stupid". It has everything to do with his being black and the pukes running racist fearmongering ads. Duh.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:46 AM
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24. Don't the Obamafans EVER tire of the racebaiting?
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 07:47 AM by Yossariant
:wtf:

Ya don't have to be a card-carrying KKK member to be offended by the words, "God damn America."

Hell, ya don't even have to be a Christian to be offended.

:puke:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:53 AM
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27. no, you don't have to be a card carrying member of the KKK
to be offended by that- just a totally stupid git. And the NYT made clear as crystal in their editorial yesterday that that ad is race baiting of the worst kind.

But hey, hillbot, you evidently support repuke race baiting. This is something you either support or.... denounce.

Sickening your hillbot crap

:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:00 AM
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30. I'm sure all the voters in North Carolina who read the NYT will agree with you.
:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:03 AM
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31. most democrats will, genius
and there was a poll showing that 52% of pukes were unhappy with it. do try and rub a couple of brain cells together once in a while. You might even get a spark of actual thought- though then again....
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:44 AM
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21. Seems like political ventriloquism to me
"If you can't get away with saying it yourself, have your dummy say it for you." As far as I know.

Or if you can't get away with attacking the presidential candidate directly, use a scapegoat in a way that implies corruption by association, thus making the associated-to automatically corrupt. Or so I've heard, as far as I know, if I remember correctly.

:hi:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:29 AM
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11. Privately, "Oh, goodie."
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:34 AM
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15. The hilly response was fucked up. see post 8.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:38 AM
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33. It sure was. Boy, they do have a way with words. NOT!
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:31 AM
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13. Her response was...
"..."
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