"Ba-rok-bok-bok-bok-bok!" ROFLMAO!!!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

Ok, so it is a bit childish in nature, but still; first thing I've read in GDP that has literally made me laugh out loud in quite some time. Too damn funny!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I do wish he'd take her up on her offer though, regardless of his technically not needing to. Sounds like it could be the first real debate based on the terms set forth and it would be a really revealing way to showcase why one is better than the other. No matter how many debates there have been, I'd say that 90% of them were borderline useless in really getting to the heart of matters and this one would have promise to finally rise above that all. Personally, I think it would be hell about time we saw a debate like that! And regardless of all the reasons one can say about why he doesn't have to etc, there really is no denying that on the part of his camp it's a strategical decision based on a bit of fear. I think that's a shame, because if he's to be our nominee I think he absolutely should welcome any debate that would be in that sort of format and should always be willing to stand up strong and have the confidence in his ability and words to declare in essence "absolutely. I'll whoop ya!". But fear is a factor here, and it is a bit of a shame, but I digress. But still:

"Ba-rok-bok-bok-bok-bok!"

That's just too damn funny LOL

[cali]

1. I wish he'd take her up on it too, but it's bullshit

and here's why. I doubt any network would broadcast it. Maybe PBS but maybe not even them. Hilly knows this.

[ScarletSniper]

3. I smell desperation on Hillary's part....even High School debates have moderators!

[Jawja]

13. What she wants is to be able to stand

there and filibuster Obama.

Obama doesn't need it. It's free airtime for her.

[ScarletSniper]

16. Agreed!

[rodeodance]

32. You forget--Obama will have opportunity to ask questions also.

[mbperrin]

48. No, high school and college debates have judges,

not moderators. Been involved with both since 1968, so I can assure you of the accuracy of this statement.

Was also involved in Lincoln Union at Texas A&M in the 70s, which involves before and after audience polling. Whoever shifted the audience wins. Topics such as Was Abe Lincoln a War Criminal?

Fun, thought provoking, gloves off, and audience oriented.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. The last debate got 12 million viewers

and it wasn't even broadcast live nationwide. Somebody would show it.

[DearAbby]

63. Let her do it on her dime

Hillary wants to say something, without moderators...let her fork out the cash and do it in an ad. No more free airtime for Hillary.

[MonkeyFunk]

67. I understand

why Obama doesn't want to debate her. But there's nothing wrong with her using his fear of debating her to her advantage.

[CTLawGuy]

2. after last time's TMZ-fest

I'm not surprised he doesn't want to be in another "debate."

[mmonk]

4. There have been more debates in this primary

than any I can remember. The one behind always calls for more debates. Nothing new. As old as politics itself.

[Iceburg]

12. Only 4 between BO and HC; Lincoln-Douglas had 7 in the state of Illinois for a Senate seat.

Surely a presidential nomination merits more scrutiny than a senate seat.

[Obamanaut]

14. Perhaps a difference in scrutiny/coverage now that we have

teevee, youtube, etc. One debate reaches a passel more folks than the ones with Lincoln/Douglas.

What we need in televised debates is more debate (substance) and less fluff.

[JTFrog]

42. Only 4? How many does she need to close the deal?

And why wouldn't she debate her opponents for Senate?

As usual, nothing is important unless it benefits Hillary.

[MindMatter]

44. 21 is enough

The 21st was no more revealing than the 3rd, for example. Nothing is learned from these encounters.

Scrutiny? Yes of course.But the modern American political "debate" is not scrutiny.

Coincidentally I was in Indianapolis this week and the local NPR station aired extended interviews with the two Democratic gubernatorial candidates -- on two successive days. I found that an extremely good format because it allowed each candidate to discuss issues in depth without having this atmosphere of just grandstanding to run up style points. It depends on a capable moderator to ask penetrating questions and to challenge weak answers, which this moderator did very capably.

[Kittycat]

5. Maybe she shouldn't have turned him down first?

Just a thought.

[GoldieAZ49]

6. Ba-rok-bok-bok-bok-bok!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That is funny!! Hats off to the poster that came up with it!

[jpak]

7. Childish indeed - get a grip

LOL

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

10. Still Funny Though LOL. Lighten Up Francis.

[jpak]

20. get a grip Francois

a tight one

[frickaline]

8. yeah its completely childish, and I don't like the GOP involving themselves in our primary

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. Obama's afraid of his chicken s coming home to roost

[rodeodance]

22. The cartoon that went with it was fun also.

[backscatter712]

11. Dare I post my latest photochop again?

Yeah, I dare.

"Ok, we'll call it a draw."

"You yellow bastard! Come back and get what's coming to you"

"I'll bite your legs off!"

[Bonobo]

15. As funny as this.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. LOL That Is Funny. Could've Been A Bit Better Of A Photoshop Though, But Funny Still.

[ClassWarrior]

18. More Clintonian insults and ridicule... but still no substance.

NGU.

[rodeodance]

23. sure beats those vile labels that Obama fans call Hillary.

[bigbrother05]

19. So now you posit that Obama = Marty McFly?

Why don't you double, no, triple dog dare him? No one could turn that down!

Glad to see you spent your downtime in intelligent contemplation.

[rodeodance]

21. yes, it was a fun response.

[slinkerwink]

24. did Hillary really say that?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. She Did Say Something Similar, But Not As Funny:

cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/26/obama.debate/index.html

[VolcanoJen]

34. You always get me with that one!!

:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. LOL

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

25. Chicken Tasini

[hedgehog]

49. That phrase deserves its own post!

[Barack_America]

27. You said: "I'm Adding What I Always Add. Common Sense And Rational Thinking."

I guess this would be a perfect example of your self-determined superior thinking?

How embarrassing.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. Lighten Up Francis. A Sense Of Humor Would Do Ya Good. Take A Breather Once In A While. Relaxxxxx

[nichomachus]

30. Why should he debate? He's not broke. He doesn't need free air time. n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

31. I.E. "No Thanks. We'd Get Our Butts Whooped"

[nichomachus]

46. You're probably right

If you put someone like Obama -- who's trying to run an aboveboard campaign -- against someone who is a proven liar and not afraid to toss the most vile mud, he probably would come out second. So, why should he subject himself to that?

She would go heavily negative and he would either have to take it -- or he would have to start slinging the mud back. And then, she'd start crying and tell everyone it just proves he's a sexist for hitting a girl.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. I.E. "No Thanks. We'd Get Our Butts Whooped"

[nichomachus]

54. Another devotee of freeperland, I see

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

55. Yup! That's Me!! You're A GENIUS!!!!

*slow clap for nichomachus*

[nichomachus]

57. You fit the M.O.

Make up a baseless slur and just keep shrieking it over and over and over. Sounds like freeperland to me. Same tactics.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

59. Yes!!!! Yes Watson!!!!! That's It!!!! You're A Genius!!!! Bravo Watson, BRAVO!!!!!!

*longer slow clap for nichomachus*

[TLM]

69. I.E. "We're broke and need you to help us slime you."

and if you don't we'll call you chicken.

Typically childish and devoid of substance, as most of the crap from hill and her followers has been...

[rodeodance]

33. he took his FREE time on FOX Sunday news today.

[susankh4]

71. Good point.

He'd rather go up against Faux than Hill?

WTF?

[TLM]

76. Are you saying Hill is afraid of FOX.... and other media like hardball?

Nothing stopping Hillary from doing media appearances on news/talk shows... oh wait, other than her being afraid of facing the same style of tabloid sleeze she's trying to attack Obama with.


Heat, kitchen, out...

[mbperrin]

50. So buying an election is OK by you?

Hmmmm

[nichomachus]

53. I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

56. Yes, It Takes The Ability To Think To Figure That Out.

Let me help:

The point is that who the best candidate is shouldn't revolve around how much money they have to pay for propagandic advertising; but instead by what positions they hold and their grasp on the issues.

[nichomachus]

60. I agree on the funding

But why do I have the feeling that if HillBilly's coffers were overflowing you'd be yelping that this is "proof" that she is the best person for the job?

Money is part of the political process. That is unfortunate. But it is a fact of life. Don't like it. Change the system. Until you do, it's the way it is.

We need to get money and religion out of presidential politics. Until we do, we're stuck with this system.

And it's not "buying the election." Just another made-up whine from the losing side.

[TLM]

72. LOL it only became a problem for hillary and her supporters, when she went broke.

Before that they were fine with her buying ads to trash obama...

But now that her poor judgment and bad planning have left her campaign behind and broke.... suddenly campaign contributions are evil.


Of course the fact Obama has MORE SUPPORT FROM MORE PEOPLE, being the reason he has more money and can buy as seems lost on hills followers.


Too bad all the lobbyists and PACs couldn't compete with the 90 dollar donations from almost a million and a half obama supporters.


But hey, tell hill to keep on insulting the netroots and liberal activists... and calling Obama chicken for not providing her with free air time.

[Forkboy]

36. Debating her is strategically stupid, not cowardly.

I'd say the same about Hillary if the roles were reversed.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. Would Be Strategically Smart If He Had Confidence To Best Her.

It's strategically stupid because he likely doesn't.

[Forkboy]

43. No, it would still be stupid.

He has a lot to lose and nothing to gain by debating her, even if he's confident he can win, as a debate "win" is subjective anyways and decided by those who may or not have your best interest in mind. Hillary has nothing to lose and everything to gain. Regardless of confidence level that's a dumb strategic move to make.

[ruggerson]

45. What's best for the voters and the country?

[Forkboy]

51. Certainly not more debates like the last one.

Come on, you'd be praising Hillary for not debating if the roles were reversed (and so would I). Don't drape your dislike of Obama in concern for the voters. There's been 21 debates for the voters, 4 between just the two of them. The voters and the country won't see anything new in another. This is a VERY disingenuous line of attack here by you.

[ruggerson]

58. Actually

were Barack to have come up with this, I'd be in favor of it. I"m not "attacking" him, I just think it's a great idea and it would be unlike any other debate we've seen. If it's just the two of them, questioning each other, without a moderator, we would get to see a number of things: what's important to them - what kind of questions do they ask? Who is trying to score points, who is trying to have a substantive discussion? Who dominates whom? I think it would be a fascinating glimpse into their leadership potential, and I'd like to see it.

[Forkboy]

64. I agree with the idea that it would be an interesting format.

And I wouldn't mind seeing it used in the future, either nationally or locally. Bet we don't though. x(

[Guava Jelly]

68. .

:applause: 100% correct!

[TLM]

77. Nobody wins in a shit slinging contest....

everybody just ends up covered in shit.


However now Hill is falling so far behind that dragging Obama down to her level is her only hope.

Obama offered a debate, and Hill refused when she thought she had this locked up... were you crying that she was afraid or lacked the ability to debate when she refused?

Yet now her campaign is broke and she is demanding a 22nd debate because it is the only way she can get air time other than going on news and talk shows... where she might be asked a question she doesn't like and have to filibuster.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

37. They've only had what, four debates with just the two of them. It would be great to have a non

moderator driven debate, definitely.

It would help both, I think. OMC such silliness this morning, LOL. :rofl:

[TLM]

79. 21 debates... not 4. Moving the goal posts again.....

Have Hillary's positions changed from the last 21 debates?

If not, the only reason to have another is so she can attack Obama again....


Why give her the opportunity to do so?

[progressoid]

39. Oooh this is fun.

Now lets play Ring Around The Rosie!

I love 3rd grade play time.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. Nah... I HATE Rosie...

:P

[cbayer]

41. It's an easy call for her, a difficult one for him.

She has everything to gain and little to lose by debating again. He has little to gain and much to lose.

On the other hand, there are still a lot of voters and SD's who want to hear more substance and less fluff. A good and true debate hosted by a non-MSM source could be enlightening and I would like to see it happen. In a race this close, I would submit that the people deserve to see a real debate. What we have had up to now has been pretty much fluff.

I don't like the chicken reference. It's a strategic decision on his part.

[krkaufman]

52. Boy, I hope more Clinton and McCain supporters pick-up on that and run with it.

It'd be another good demonstration of the difference between the campaigns.

[indimuse]

61. Barack Obama is on the run from the MSM, Debates, and TRUTH..aka..

the "Chicken coming home to Roost!""Ba-rok-bok-bok-bok-bok!" "Ba-rok-bok-bok-bok-bok!" Needs some cu-cu-courage..
>

[rodeodance]

74. Run Chicken Run

[SoCalDem]

62. Hillary-ous

:eyes:

[BigBearJohn]

65. lol

[smalll]

66. ***OMG!!!*** That was ME from late last night! I claim the coinage! ******

:hi:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5701870&mesg_id=5702614

[rodeodance]

73. yes, we gave you much celebration. good one.

[susankh4]

75. Quick!

Copyright it!

This is gonna have legs..... uh, er, drumsticks....

:kick:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

80. Indeed It Was, And When I Saw It This Morning It Made Me Laugh Out Loud.

First time in a long time that something in GDP made me do that lol.

[Skip Intro]

81. Very good! Cracked me up too. It's funny because it's true.

:thumbsup:

[susankh4]

70. Chickens have rights too ya know!

Show them some dignity and don't equate them to a man who is afraid to debate a woman.

Bwahahahahahhaaaaaaaa... Barack bok bok bok bok..... :toast:

[americanstranger]

78. Note to Clinton supporters regarding debates:

The frontrunner calls the shots. Not the also-ran.

That is all.

- as