Obama Will "Take Fox On" In Appearance This Sunday ... NOT!!!

[GoldieAZ49]

He was gonna show how "tough he really is"

The senior Obama adviser insists that Obama is under no illusions about Fox and what it represents, and that this isn't about courtship at all, and vows a confrontational approach on Sunday.

Here is what the adviser IM-ed me about this today:

We are clear-eyed about Fox’'s role in the dissemination and amplification of Republican talking points this election. They have been the tip of the spear when it comes to repeatedly broadcasting some of the most specious of rumors about Obama. He is going on their Sunday show to take Fox on, not because we have any illusion about their motives or politics in this election.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/senior_obama_adviser_obama_wil.php

So how "confrontational" was Obama with Fox news that has been "the tip of the spear...broadcasting the most specious rumors about Obama"?

FAIL

Obama Doesn't "Take Fox On," After All

The Fox News Sunday interview is over. And Obama didn't take on Fox at all in any meaningful sense.

On Friday, a senior Obama adviser responded to criticism of his decision to go on Fox with a bunch of tough talk, saying that Obama knew full well that Fox has been at the forefront of spreading "the most specious of rumors" (i.e., lies) about Obama and vowing that he would "take Fox on."

Well, it didn't happen. Obama definitely pushed back hard on some of Chris Wallace's questions, but at no point did he draw attention to Fox's spreading of lies about him or critique the network in a general sense.

Obama had a perfect opening to do this, too. Wallace pressed him repeatedly about Jeremiah Wright and the bogus "flag pin" nonsense -- a perfect set-up for Obama to point out that Fox had obsessed about both these issues to an obscene degree and that Fox had been at the forefront of spreading the Obama-is-a-Muslim lies.

To be clear, Obama wasn't obliged to go after Fox. But a senior adviser said Obama would, as a way of quieting criticism of him. And he didn't.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/obama_doesnt_take_fox_on_after.php

So he really blew the best chance ever to call BS, instead by not taking them on he gives them credibility. What a joke.

[ClassWarrior]

1. Obama refuses to melt down so the queen can be annointed!! What a joke!!

:eyes:

NGU.

[GoldieAZ49]

6. So the senior Obama adviser was blowing smoke...again

not surprising

[ClassWarrior]

13. Was he/she? What was your personal analysis of Obama's appearance?

Or are you just cutting and pasting?

NGU.

[GoldieAZ49]

31. I was expecting him to be 'confrontational' as his campaign said

so I was disappointed. Had they not built up the 'show them how tough he is' hype it would not have disappointing, it would have been better.

Do you not see how they do a disservice to themselves by hyping it erroneously?

[bigdarryl]

37. his campaign people need to shut the fuck up and let him make the decision on attacking

[ClassWarrior]

43. Why do you hang on the words of advisors? Why not just watch and make...

...your own judgement? Or are you just trying to play GOTCHA?

NGU.

[ClassWarrior]

45. That statement could well have been made for the benefit of Faux...

...to throw off the attack dogs. I think you're watching a chess game and trying to apply the rules of checkers.

NGU.

[2rth2pwr]

59. The interview was done on Friday, the campaign knew how it went.

[Nedsdag]

60. Madame, worry about your own state.

With McCain on the ticket, it doesn't matter if Hillary or Obama is nominated, so why bother?

[BlueIdaho]

2. You mean kinda like the Clinton campaign

complementing Fox on their fair and unbiased reporting on the Democratic primary?

[DevonRex]

4. LOL. Good point. One that the OP fails to mention, of course.

Wouldn't fit her intention to slime.

[GoldieAZ49]

10. they are correct - unlike MSNBC with Chris Matthews shivers up his legs

Or the token idiot on MSNBC KO

:rofl:

[Bensthename]

3. So his goal should have been to take down Fox? What ever..

I think he is running for president of the USA not president of the FCC lib association.

[ScarletSniper]

5. He nailed that interview...sorry Charlie

[rodeodance]

8. He wimped out again.. Very few specifics--just more vague responses

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[mckeown1128]

11. What did you think of the Hillary campaign going on fox to

tell them how fair and balanced they are? Ohh that is right your just a Clinton supporter... I should expect YOU to be hypocritical.

[ScarletSniper]

15. Exactly. Nothing new to see...she will dance and dance and dance! Its what she does best!

[rodeodance]

25. Mocking screen names is immature and against the rules of DU.

[rodeodance]

23. Obama shows up on Fox when he is tanking--like after the Wright issue and now

when his poll numbers are going down.

Hypocrit is the word--

[mckeown1128]

62. His poll numbers have NOT gone down...

that is another one of your Clinton delusions.

[NJmaverick]

7. Buried at the end of the article was the most IMPORTANT point

"Obama turned in a perfectly solid performance. He probably succeeded in making a positive impression on many voters he might otherwise not have reached."

[MaineDem]

12. He's preparing for the General Election

Good for him!

[ScarletSniper]

14. Imagine that....there you have it.

[Window]

22. He should ignore Clown Cllinton and concentrate on McWar.

[DevonRex]

16. And of course Goldie didn't paste that portion in her OP. LOL.

Thanks for doing it for her. :)

[GoldieAZ49]

19. McCain and Hillary turn in solid performances too.

but that has nothing to do with what his adviser said Obama was going to do

So he couldn't confront Fox news and have a solid performance?

[Life Long Dem]

17. Did he really?

Come on now, side with MSM why don't you. And when you need help from MSM attacks Obama's side won't be there for you.

[GoldenOldie]

27. As an Arizonan......... waiting for the FOX /Obama interview

I will form my own opinion as to the worth of Obama's statements....unlike my fellow Arizona Goldie, who always seems ready to accept and buy into a pre-prepared agenda.

[GoldieAZ49]

34. You are missing it or choosing to watch it later

I have no problem with that

[GoldieAZ49]

35. the senior Obama adviser is part of the MSM?

Now that is news!

[Window]

18. He did fine. Just because he doesn't make an ass out himself like Hillary,

lying and talking shit, does not mean he didn't do well. Assholery and aha! gotcha! is not his style.

"Obama turned in a perfectly solid performance. He probably succeeded in making a positive impression on many voters he might otherwise not have reached."

[GoldieAZ49]

21. So the senior Obama adviser was blowing smoke...again

[Window]

42. You are the one who used the word "confrontational," not Sen. Obama's adviser.

You're the only one blowing smoke, besides Hillary.

You're just mad 'cause you want the media to talk about "the angry black man," shit.

There is more than one way to skin a cat, he got his points across with the usual class.

[GoldieAZ49]

49. read the quote from his adviser "confrontational" was his word not mine

Not that you can see anything through your bias

[Window]

61. I can see fine, thank you. The word confrontational was NOT used by the advisor. It was the

blogger who used the word.

The advisor said "taking on" Fox News. I take that to mean exactly what I said above, Sen. Obama has his own style...class...not confrontational like shrill Hillary.

[SoxFan]

20. You'd be screaming "angry black man" if he did

[Imalittleteapot]

24. It's called reaching out.

He attacked FOX alright by sifting through all of the BS, proving his credibility and acting Presidential, something FOX viewers haven't seen in a long time.

Good job Obama!

[GoldieAZ49]

28. Obama: "there is a whole host of areas that Republicans may have better ideas"

LOL, that is reaching alright

solid democrat

Chris did a good job calling him on his supposed bipartisan 'unity'

[JNelson6563]

26. You'd think he'd follow this excellent example, but no.

Now that's what I call "takin' it to 'em"! :sarcasm:

Julie

[Barack_America]

29. Enough with the obsession with fighting!

Why is your definition of "taking them on" limited to shouting and name-calling?

Why isn't rationally discussing issues in a way that could actually sway their viewers not "taking them on"?

Why is rallying their base to vote against you a better approach?

[GoldieAZ49]

32. So the senior Obama adviser was blowing smoke??

calling BS over the flag pin flap and other trivial crap would have required shouting and name-calling?

It isn't like posting on DU.

[Barack_America]

39. Obama knows how to pick his fights.

Why would it serve him better to play "gotcha" with Fox News when he could hit them where it really hurts, their viewership? Why should he go on there, yell and scream, and create soundbites for them to play over and over again and rile up the truly ignorant among their base?

How would that help him and Democrats in general?

[xchrom]

30. recommend

[stray cat]

33. I suspect he went on FOX because alot of people watch it that will vote in the GE

and not to rant and rave about how unfair FOX is...

[GoldieAZ49]

38. True they do

and hopefully they didn't hear his campaign planned on him being confrontational

When I heard that I thought it was a mistake because Chris Wallace is Hannity.

Hannity is the one that has been leading the attacks on him.

[anonymous171]

57. Hannity can't even face Ron Paul supporters.

[livetohike]

36. Why do you put so much stock into "confrontational"?

That's not how mature adults conduct themselves. I'd rather have a level headed President than one who is always looking for one-upman(woman)ship. It indicates an emotional deficit.

[GoldieAZ49]

40. Then why did his senior adviser use confrontational?

that was his choice of wording, not mine.

[goldcanyonaz]

41. Funny how he is being hailed as a hero around here for going of Fox. Hillary was bad when she went

[leftofcool]

44. You noticed that too?

Rumor has it that most of the MSM pundits are laughing their asses off over his performance.

[goldcanyonaz]

46. Really? SWEET!!

[GoldieAZ49]

47. double standards. FNC is more 'fair and balanced' than DU'ers are on dem candidates

amazing isn't it?

[Chalco]

48. I noticed that, too.

They actually had an intelligent discussion stating good points and bad points about his interview.

[Chalco]

50. Hillary was a traitor when she went on Fox, Obama is brave. BS!

[jefferson_dem]

52. Right.

Nailed.

[Chalco]

56. So glad you agree with me that Hillary is not a traitor and Obama is a coward.

[JoFerret]

58. Sums it up. Double standard all the time.

We need a champion. Not a deer in the headlights.

[jefferson_dem]

51. I challenge anyone to actually watch the entire interview rather than relying on what

some random blogger says about it. Then you tell me he didn't comport himself well, with principled composure, just as we would hope for.


The finger-wagging approach surely would have worked been preferred. :spray:

[Chalco]

55. I watched every minute.

He did present well. Unfortunately he had nothing to back up his good presentation. Yes, he comes across well in terms of his demeanor but did not say what he would do. All style, no substance.

[jefferson_dem]

53. Good thing we have Hillary who stands up and challenges those FauxNews scoundrels...

Surely, she would not let them get away with their incessant mouth-foaming Dem-bashing.

Surely...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4VyYWUW8k

[VolcanoJen]

54. "No Drama" Obama. "No Shock" Barack.

Sorry, but I'll take calm, intelligent and steady any day over the crap Clinton's doling out.

[zulchzulu]

63. Did you HONESTLY watch the interview and make up your own mind?

Obama kicked Wallace's ass...but with class and firm, clear responses.

It's might be over your head. He didn't cackle. He doesn't cackle.

[Raine]

64. Oh you mean like Hillary "confronted" Faux?

:sarcasm: :rofl: