Do Obama fans really believe Hillary's decision to

[cboy4]

not drop out of the race after her Pennsylvania win is hurting the Dem's chances in November?

Or are they simply irate that they're not getting their way -- furious that all of the votes are probably going to be counted into June?

I keep hearing how Hillary staying in the race is keeping Democrats from concentrating all of our efforts on going after McCain.

And that somehow could cost us the White House. :eyes:

If the Democrats lose to McCain in November, it will not be because of the primary continuing so every Democrat in every state is allowed to participate...(Democracy).

The reason will be because the same majority of idiots who felt Bush deserved a second term, want the GOP to retain the White House -- they don't want Obama OR Hillary running the show.

(This of course factors in Republican cheating/Diebold/disenfranchisement/dirty tricks in order to steal the election anyway).

If we can't beat the Republicans with even just one month or two month of intense campaigning -- taking into account 4-dollar gas, the war, the mortgage crisis, the health care crisis, the deficit, etc., etc.....

That aint Hillary Clinton's fault.

Believe me.

[hisownpetard]

1. Whose fault might it be?

[cboy4]

7. Maybe it'll be the fault of the Democrats who didn't

vote for John Edwards like I did.

He's the person I think could have defeated McCain.

[hisownpetard]

20. I was for Edwards, too. But he withdrew. So saying he could have beated McCain

is just fantasy football at this point.

We need to choose a nominee and proceed full-steam against McCain.

[Auntie Bush]

62. Maybe it's Obama'a fault for dragging the race card into the issue

and dividing our party. The RW vile talking points slung at Hillary and all the vile comments also helped divide our party from within. Yet they claim Hillary is running a nasty campaign...when they are running a worst one through their surrogates amid party members. Just take a look at DU:P's front page by the hour...especially during the beginning of the campaign.
You would have thought it was "The Free Republic" or "Drudge". Then they wonder why Hillary supporters don't support Obama. It's their own fault. They should have thought more about what they were doing to the party before posting swill about her.

[PoliticalAmazon]

76. Nice Bush/Rove spin there. Hillary's bigot-pandering and racial slams...

...including dismissing the value of African-American votes in states where she didn't win, have been her ongoing Bush/Rove divisive tactic that she has tried to use to split the party.

However, Hillary goes beyond where even Bush/Rove dared to go. By openly pandering to bigots and dismissing the value of African-American votes, she has sunk to a low that is lower than Bush/Rove.

[Auntie Bush]

80. You are just the kind of supporter

I was referring to. Go read your post again. Talk about making everything into racial problems and grasping into thin air for something to get outraged about. Are you dizzy from spinning? After you stop spinning... read my post again with a fresh out look. Calm down man...you really must be hurting.

[PoliticalAmazon]

84. To accuse Obama, the target of the Clinton bigot-pandering, is classic Rove/Bush...

...THAT you cannot spin away.

[Armstead]

2. You miss the point

If Hillary were firing at McCain and selling her own merits as a potential nominee, this would not be a damaging primary.

But Hillary is doing Rove's work for him and doing everything she can to help make Obama unelectable.

Rather than building herself up, she is trying to tear Obama down.

That is what is inexcusable and damaging about her decision to stay in for so long.

[Jawja]

14. Agreed.

It is the despicable campaign that Hillary is running that hurts.

It is also the GOP support she is getting through from the owners of the Corporate Media and their cronies. By not "rejecting and denouncing" support from the likes of Limbaugh, Scaife and Murdoch, she is embracing powerful people whose goal it is to destroy the Democratic Party.

The only result of a nomination gained from the Rovian playbook and GOP support is the destruction of the Democratic Party.

[cboy4]

21. Oh come on.

These are talking points.

Let's hear Jawja explain in your own words why the Democrats might not manage to defeat John "I want to stay in Iraq for 100 years" McCain with even a limited amount of campaigning.

Nothing will change with him in charge.

We can't beat him?

[Jawja]

25. Oh, I didn't say we couldn't beat McCain.

But we won't if Clinton gets the nomination at the convention by Super Delegate coup, which she and her backers in the GOP are spinning to get.

[Yael]

17. Beat me to it.

[hisownpetard]

22. Ditto.

[JerseygirlCT]

58. Yes. nt

[Auntie Bush]

68. Have you ever stopped worshiping Obama long enough to place blame

were blame is due? Seems to me Obama is the one who has been lying and putting his own foot in his mouth. He's destroying himself with his own rhetoric and poor choice of acquaintances. This stuff wasn't started by Hillary...the RW aren't stupid enough to ignore him. also, f Hillary wasn't in the race and deflection a lot of RW slime...Obama would be getting a lot more that he has...which is very little so far. His reactions to a few tough questions prove he needs the practice defending himself from his own blunders. I frankly think Hillary is toughening him up for a rough GE.

[stray cat]

3. The good news for McCain is that the dems are doing all of his work for him.

The Republicans couldn't do a better job destroying the candidates if they tried.

[joeybee12]

4. I've said it before...a week is a lifetime in politics...so even if this goes

until June, there' still 4 months to go, plenty of time to hammer home all the stuff Bush has done and McLame has enabled him to do.

[cboy4]

8. Absolutely.

:thumbsup:

[joeybee12]

9. thanks...n/t

[Exilednight]

16. A week might be a life time, but it can just easily be said that four months is a blink of an eye...

it works both ways. Right now Hillary is doing the work of Rove, and has given rethugs many soundbites that can be used in commercials.

If I were a rethug strategist I would already have commercials made with Bill Clinton's "fairytale" comment and Hillary's "life time of experience" comment ready to go against Obama.

[cboy4]

27. Well by that logic, no Democrat could ever go after any

Democrat during the primary (even during the first week).. out of concern the Republicans will use that ammo in the GE.

The Republicans don't need help being sleazy. They're more than capable of coming up with all of their swift boating on their own.

[Exilednight]

29. My logic would keep the Democratic primary civil and focused on the issues instead of stupid shit.

God forbid we actually get a real answer to a question instead of hearing about something as stupid as a 1960s radical group.

Huckabee managed to stay in the rethug primary without damaging McCain, why can't Hillary do the same?

[Dawgs]

5. What is the point of her staying in is my question?

This race is over. We have a nominee.

[cboy4]

12. Please answer my question.

Thanks in advance.

[kenny blankenship]

36. What is the point of answering your question?

Will you stop if you receive an answer?

Will you stop joining in the bullshit attacks on our party if it's explained to you how Clinton is damaging our chances? If not then anyone talking to you answering your questions posed in bad faith is just wasting their time.

Clinton's "path" to the nomination will produce a CONTESTED NOMINATION at the party convention. This is the surest way to lose it all in November. The reason is simple - and PLEASE LISTEN.

When a party convention, which is its showcase advertising itself to the electorate shows disunity and lack of total confidence in its nominee at the top of the ticket, it convinces the country that that party is unable to govern, along with destroying confidence in the Presidential nominee, whoever that turns out to be. NO AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION ATTACK ADS CAN KILL US THE WAY A CONTESTED CONVENTION WILL.

That's what Hillary Clinton is doing, and being of the generation that came of age with McGovern and Carter, she sure as Hell knows it.

[cboy4]

44. Well you begin with a huge credibility problem by

accusing me of "joining in the bullshit attacks on our party."

Why would you say that about me?

Listen, I argue Clinton won Texas because more people voted for her in the Texas Primary.

But people tell me, "no, no, no .. the caucus helped Obama win Texas."

I hate the caucus system, but that is the rule.

The rules also allow Hillary to proceed and she's entitled.

If this is bad for the Democratic Party, then advocate for a rule change.

Frankly, I don't believe many people are going to say to themselves, "you know, Hillary and Obama battled this thing out, so I'm going to go ahead a vote for McCain..."

I just don't buy it.

At one point there will be a Democrat and a Republic running.

One wants the war to continue and will not change all of the failed policies of the Bush Administration from the past eight years -- the other candidate (ours) wants a different path.

You want one or the other.

I don't buy your doom and gloom reason of "disunity" and "lack of confidence."

But thanks for sharing your view.

[kenny blankenship]

48. I have history on my side and YOU are the one backing a candidate who LIES about being shot at

and you talk about credibility???

Now that's incredible.

[cboy4]

50. You also have a credibility problem writing that I back

"a candidate..."

I didn't vote for Hillary.

But I support her right to run.

[kenny blankenship]

52. Really? Now we're down to semantics & unverifiable assertions. Thanks for wasting my time

support - back - whatever.
shoulda known.

[cboy4]

55. Do you have a learning disability? You wrote that I support

Hillary Clinton, when in fact, I voted for John Edwards and will support the Democratic nominee.

So that is untrue kenny.

You therefore have a credibility problem vis-a-vis drawing incorrect conclusions about who I support, simply because I believe she has the right to continue running.

Facts are your friend kenny.

[kenny blankenship]

56. And I can tell you I didn't vote for Obama

Happens to be the truth, but I wouldn't bother you with unverifiable assertions --that would be a bullshitters' move.

I wrote that you back Hillary; you wrote that you support her continued bid. Now you say I'm in error in saying that you ever supported Hillary Clinton. Well I can say you are in error because you're SUPPORTING HER NOW. I never said that you voted for her. Like I said: you're taking it down to semantics and assertions no one can verify. So this is where you want to end it - in the mud?

And you have FAILED to face the fact that contested nominations have been UTTER DISASTERS for our party the two times they have occurred. The facts are not your friend - I can tell that from the way you have studiously avoided them.

[cboy4]

60. Interesting. How does someone like yourself, who didn't

vote for Obama, become such an Obama fanatic?

I mean, to go so far as to photoshop Hillary's campaign logo and use it as your sig?

I'm not so sure you weren't implying that I'm a Hillary voter, when you used the word "back."

But whatever. Fine, I do support her right to continue fighting, because I love Democracy.

And contested nominations are part of the rules kenny.

Start a campaign to change the process if you don't like it .. but don't blame Hillary.

[Dawgs]

65. Yes. It hurting our nominee.

Hillary is embarrassing our party.

Do you want to know anythine else?

[cboy4]

69. Yea, I want to know how her actions will convince/encourage

people, who would otherwise vote Democrat, change their minds and vote for McCain.

I don't see how any of this "embarrassing our party" talk factors into anything.

[saltpoint]

6. She has every right to remain in the race.

The damage done is more likely to be to her own reputation as a future influence in the party as opposed to damage inflicted on the party versus McCain in the general.

With each passing hour, Democratic voters are seeing the "fighting, tenacious, tough-gal" Hillary Clinton -- which is a plus for her in the short term, but definitely a minus in the longer view, because it reinforces the notion that she's in it to win it for herself and not really a collaborative player.

Any push to undo the damage Bush has done has to be a collaborative push, and if Obama goes on to win the nom in Denver, and I believe he will, the people he calls on to comprise his team for that collaborative push will likely be culled from people who actually are team players.

Despite her obvious and inarguable careeer strengths, Hillary Clinton is not behaving like a team player.

[DrFunkenstein]

10. Everyone Just Wants Her To Run a Clean Campaign

Instead of throwing around garbage cans because "that's what a cheap, slimy, uninspiring GOP campaign would look like."

Vodka aside, Clinton is becoming synonymous with cheap shots.

And her poll numbers are showing it.

[cboy4]

15. Can you please answer my question?

Why can't we beat McCain with her staying in the race?

I'm not inquiring whether Obama fans believe she is running a dirty campaign.

I know that answer.

[Orrex]

11. Believe you? Why?

Do you honestly think that she's staying in so that every Democrat in every state is allowed to participate? What a delightfully rose-colored assessment! By that argument, every nominee in every campaign year who didn't stay in until the convention was actually campaigning against democracy! Who knew?!?

Every attack that Obama--the Democratic nominee for 2008--has to answer from Clinton is one that McCain doesn't have to make, thereby preserving the bullshit media-mantra that he's a straight shooter who plays fair and doesn't engage in dirty politics.

I will proudly vote for Obama in November as I did on April 22. I would have voted for Clinton if she'd been the nominee, even if she is the de facto stalking horse for the McCain campaign.


So your question is a straw man. No one objects to her choice to remain in the race; the problem is the way she's conducting her scorched earth campaign, which is indeed damaging the party's chances for November. The media will play it like this: "with the party so bitterly divided, how can any Democrat hope to win the Whitehouse? Up next: McCain saves a basket of puppies from rising flood waters."

[GarbagemanLB]

13. As long as this ends in early June, it shouldn't be a problem. If she takes it to the convention,

then we will likely lose in November.

[mmonk]

18. I believe the problem is the tenor of the campaign, not that she is running.

I haven't seen acceptance of republican fear and xenophobic dishonesty accepted by one democrat against another yet as much as this one.

[dailykoff]

19. Yes, she lost on super Tuesday. Next question?

nt

[cboy4]

30. No, that's not an answer dailykoff....that's you stomping your

feet and throwing your pen against the wall.

I want to know why Obama can't beat McCain with a shorter amount of campaigning if and when he becomes the nominee.

[dailykoff]

31. You asked a question and I answered it.

You're welcome.

:hi:

[cboy4]

35. Sure you didn't.

This is a good product to help get the pen marks off of your walls.

You probably need a case.

Temper, temper.

[Milo_Bloom]

23. Yes... this is a financial issue.

Clinton has absolutely no path left to nomination. However, she continues to drain resources from potential donors and from Obama who could be working on building up funds for the GE.

[cboy4]

34. Well it looks like Obama supporters will have to pony

up more cash to replenish his account, if that's the case.

Hillary supporters -- (at least some) who want a Democrat in the White House -- will also probably chip in.

And it's my understanding that she does have a path left to nomination -- especially if she wins Indiana.

[Milo_Bloom]

38. Your understanding is incorrect.

You can actually do the numbers yourself right here. http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/

Obama can lose EVERY STATE by 5-10 points from this point forward and still easily win the nomination capturing a MINORITY of the remaining super delegates.


Clinton can outpreform her best preformance and would still need to capture an overwhelming majority of the uncomitted SD's (many of whom have pledged support to the candidate who wins the majority of delegates.)

She can win Indiana AND North Carolina and still doesn't have a path to nomination.


All she is doing at this point is draining resources.

[Forkboy]

24. I'm with you on this.

I think the race going on is fine. It's good to see states that never have much say be a player for once, and if either Dem can't beat that smeghead McCain then we deserve whatever we get.

[quakerboy]

26. Hell YEAH

sorry Cboy. But every little unnecessary smear hurts us. If she wasn't tossing the kitchen sink, it wouldn't be an issue. But she is, and I at least, have no patience for it remaining.

At this point, the writing is pretty well on the wall, and the only thing that has made any difference is trying to make him unelectable to some voters. We should be able to beat the republics with just a bit of intense campaigning, but the problem is that Hillary is attacking Barack's credibility, and with people who would ignore these arguments from a republican. When she succeeds with a voter, she has destroyed a bit of their basis for voting on the issues you mentioned. After all, if he is just the same as every other politician, why believe he would be any better on the issues you have mentioned? At least with a republic you know you will get a tax break.

Its stupid season, if she has any interest in the policies she claims to be for.

[cboy4]

39. quakerboy....attacking his credibility is fair game.

I mean, that's a fundamental issue in just about every campaign.

What is she supposed to do? Campaign on how she's similar to him?

[Arugula Latte]

74. But why does she continue to attack him when she CAN'T WIN?

[cboy4]

79. Because it's the primary and he's fair game.

He better get used to it now .. if he turns out to be the nominee, you aint seen nothing yet.

[quakerboy]

82. That is a BS argument

At this point, as at every point, the purpose of this is to get a Democratic president in the Whitehouse. What she is doing brings her no closer to the Whitehouse. Arguably, it moves her further away as people perceive her as playing dirty, and alienates the AA and youth voters. All it does it attempt to move him further away. And that is to no ones benefit other than McCain.

As to the "aint see nothing yet". I have watched you post, and respect many of your views. Which is why I say with absolute confidence that sometime in the near future, you will look back and regret that specious argument. As someone who's first real foray into politics was to support John Kerry with my money, my time, and my vote, despite not caring for him all that much as a specific candidate, I say with that perspective, what I have seen in this primary from Hillary and associates is every bit as ugly as anything in the 2004 GE. It tends toward the more subtle, but it is every last bit as ugly. I have seen something yet, and when Barack officially wins the nomination, we who have supported him through this shitstorm will move on to the next looming one. With that in mind, the only thing that continuing this primary fight can achieve now(no matter who comes out on top) is to tire some out before they can even get to the fight against the Republics.

If Barack loses the GE, there will be blame to share. There is obviously the Republics and MSM to take the brunt of it, but that will leave a heaping portion will go to Clinton for hardening people against him when she should have been winning them over to her. A heaping portion will go to the super delegates who have propped her up long past her real viability. A lot will go to those individual Democrats too involved in their microview of the world to look at the struggle we are all in together. Some will devolve on Barack himself, for daring to step up with a short national level resume, as a multiracial person before the country was ready. If Hillary loses the GE, there will be blame to go around as well. As usual, the Corporate press will be in the forefront. Some will devolve on Barack, but less than in the reverse, because he has been in the lead from the first vote cast until now, and that confers some expectancy to carry on. Much will be on the super delegates who made it happen.

There is no good reason why this continues. Whether it is pride, power or money, it is no longer for the good of the country, and that makes it a mistake.

[kenny blankenship]

28. Yes, of course it hurts Democratic chances in Nov.

You'd be an idiot not to admit that. Here's why:

If you take her at face value, (I can't recommend trusting a proven liar, but just say we accept her stated reasons for continuing at face value) and you assume that she actually believes she can make the Convention knuckle under to her in Denver, you cannot get away from History's lesson that a party without a presumptive nominee going into its convention, which has a "contested" nomination process at that convention, loses that election.

There is NO WAY for her to be in the lead going into the convention. She must then be planning to contest the nomination. At best she is taking us down a road that has led to defeat twice in modern history.

The real question is, is she persisting with her doomed campaign to prevent Obama from winning in November?

[C_U_L8R]

32. What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger.

Unfortunately I think Hillary is killing herself.
She's transformed herself from hero to pariah in just a few months.
Why does she have to lie so much? Why? Why? Why?

[cboy4]

46. Didn't answer my question.

:thumbsdown:

[C_U_L8R]

53. My answer is no, Hillary is just hurting herself.

The party will go on fine without her.

[Orrex]

33. What's your point?

Your question has been answered repeatedly, even though it's a straw man, but you somehow manage to reply only to those posts that you perceive to be avoiding your question.

What's the purpose of this thread, if not to receive an answer to the question that you claim to be posing?

[symbolman]

77. He really has no point

other than to deny backing Clinton while he does with cartoon villan logic, using the DU as an Ant Farm, pissing on people and watching what he'd like to think are helpless villagers flee.. A god made of Jello, who said on one thread that he proved that I, a person who enlisted during Nam, a veteran who worked in a VA after Nam, that he'd proven to all that I hated Democracy..

You'll get no apologies from this petty soapboxer my friend, like any Flim Flam man, he ducks all logical answers, insults only Obama backers and flees once he's stuck the penknife of his petty logic in your leg..

He hates Veterans, pure and simple, runs like a scalded dog when he realizes that he's actually said something that can't be avoided as anything more than a mortal insult, but punk insults are a dime a dozen..

The support for Clinton is as glaring as are the protestations, which are bunk..

[cboy4]

78. That was pretty entertaining symbolman. I give you an

8.0, but the East German judge only gave you a 4.5 :(

That was also an impressive lie about me hating veterans.

You should link to where I've expressed my hate for veterans.

Ohhhh, that's right. You can't do it.

Just because I criticize you, doesn't mean, of course, that I hate veterans.

Don't be mad at me. Be mad at yourself for wanting to halt Democracy.

[bowens43]

37. I believe that she is PURPOSELY working for Obams defeat in the GE

so that she will have a shot in 2012. This painfully obvious to all bu the most faithful hillary worshiper.

[kenny blankenship]

41. There really is no other rational explanation left unfortunately

the other plausible explanation is she's gone completely mental and is now issuing "NOT ONE INCH OF GERMAN SOIL !!!" type commands from her bunker.

[BootinUp]

61. What paranoia. nt

[cboy4]

63. It's not paranoia. It's stupidity.

And possibly drunkenness

[maximusveritas]

40. You're in denial

You failed to provide any reasons for why this won't hurt us in November.

Here's why it will: our resources are being spent on this primary instead of the general and McCain has been able to define himself and escape scrutiny while our candidates are continuing to get battered by the press and each other.

McCain has made a number of mistakes that would have brought down his numbers if only the public had heard about them. Instead, they heard only about controversies (many made up) about Obama and Clinton.

[newmajority]

42. Hillary dragging this out benefits the status quo in three ways.

1) Grandpa McLoon continues to get a free ride from the press, while they focus on our three ring circus.

2) If this is dragged out to the convention, which seems to be Hillary's intention, our nominee (which is not, and will not be her) will have less time to take on McCain, giving the Repukes an advantage they would not otherwise have.

3) This race is robbing financial resources from the party and from individual contributors that could be spent on Senate and House races, both against Repukes in the general, and DLC DINO's in the primary. We need to increase the majority in both houses of Congress (and trade as many DINO's for real Democrats as we can) so that we CAN get something done, once President Obama takes office. This thin majority with 14 senators voting against the party shit just ain't gonna cut it anymore.

Hillary doesn't give a shit about this party, but I believe SOME of her supporters do. You are the ones who need to ask her to stand down.

[cboy4]

51. An interesting analysis, but the past eight years of

Republican dictatorship have been so horrific...again, we should be able to beat grandpa in a shorter amount of time.

[newmajority]

75. If all we were fighting was the Chimp record, it would be overwhelmingly easy.

Unfortunately, we're also fighting wide spread electoral fraud, a compliant whore media, and (thanks to the DLC) elements within our own party that would rather side with the enemy.

It took almost 7 years to get Chimpy's approval rating under 30% despite his total and complete failure in every aspect of his pResiDUNCEy. That says a lot about how misinformed a lot of this country is, unfortunately. :evilfrown:

[Hansel]

43. Speaking for me alone, yes, I really do.

[anonymous171]

45. No. It's her campaign style that is hurting our chances.

[cboy4]

54. How is her campaign style hurting our chances?

No one-liners anonymous...I want specifics.

[donheld]

47. No, I think it's all your fault!

:D

[Arkana]

49. As far as I'm concerned, Hillary can fight as long as she wants.

She'll lose, but she's free to go as long as she feels is necessary.

I think the way she is running her campaign--highly divisive, negative at every opportunity--is hurting the party.

[JerseygirlCT]

57. I don't believe her refusal to drop out is hurting our chances. I believe

her decisions to attack Obama, while supporting McCain, are going to hurt our chances.

And I think her husband just needs to keep his trap shut now - maybe forever. He's harmed himself, his wife, the party and this country with his behavior. THAT'S the problem.

She doesn't need to drop out. She needs to start behaving like a Democrat.

[BootinUp]

59. I agree. nt

[TragedyandHope]

64. Let the people vote

However, if the situation was reversed and Obama was trailing with no chance of winning, or if any other non-Clinton candidate was in the position Hillary is in today, I have no doubt that candidate would have already graciously bowed out of the race. No doubt at all.

The difference is that Obama or any other candidate would have put the interests of the party and the interests of the country (keeping the Republicans out of the White House), above their own personal motivations.

Hillary has a different value system and she can get away with it because of the so-called Clinton legacy and the network of political favoritism they have built over the past 16 years.

You simply cannot convince me the Obama would be allowed to stay in the race at this point if the situation was reversed. If that were the case, there's no question that Hillary would have been the nominee by now.

[cboy4]

67. Well I'm sure you're being sincere -- However, while you

may have no doubt Obama would have "already graciously bowed out of the race" -- had the situation been reversed -- there's no way you know that as fact.

It looks like neither one of us will be successful in convincing the other.

[Hamlette]

66. We don't care that she stays in. We care that she campaigns like Karl Rove.

We don't like it when the GOP does it, we don't like it when one of our own does it.

She is not the only person who can "save" this union.

[cboy4]

71. No, you can't speak as "we." -- You can only speak as "I"

because there are many Obama supporters who care that she "stays in."

So you can say, "I don't care" or "some of us don't care."

But definitely not, "'we' don't care."

[Hamlette]

85. you are right

I suppose there are some people out there who are so sick of the Clintons they want them off the scene.

I'm nearing that point myself.

[JVS]

70. I think her decision to campaign by using despicable GOP tactics is hurting our chances.

You don't see people calling for Kucinich to drop out because he doesn't act like a total douchebag.

[cboy4]

72. How is her decision to campaign by allegedly using

"despicable GOP tactics" hurting our chances?

You don't think if Obama was campaigning by himself right now against McCain, that the Republicans would be using "despicable GOP tactics?"

If Obama thinks it's bad now, he should wait.

Come on JVS.

[JVS]

73. She herself said she was throwing the kitchen sink. Doing so was divisive.

Not a good move within the party.

[Gore1FL]

81. I don't care if she drops out or stays in

She's already lost it. I just wish she'd quit writing campaign ads for John McCain.

[JoFerret]

83. And check out the electoral college implications

It would be a DISASTER for Clinton to drop out now before she has given the dems the chance to think this through.

Obama should drop out now...or soon. That would be one solution.
together they would wipe the floor with any GOp candidate.

[ObamaKerryDem]

86. It's not that she's not dropping out...

It's the divisive way she's continuing to run....